Kelly making decision in 7-10 days?

• darbypitcher22

  

  I like their non-conference schedule for the next four years; especially the Oklahoma and Tennessee games; if Cincy wins (or at the very least is VERY competitive) it could prove as a launching point. I don't see Cincy taking a step back after Kelly leaves(let's just face it, whether its this year or next its gonna happen) unless they completely miss the boat with their next hire. The facilities are coming and will be there; the depth is there now.
• DaBrowns41

  Little Danny wrote:

  DaBrowns41 wrote:

  Little Danny wrote: Wow... just wow. I really don't know where to go with this thread as it would take me years to get DaBrowns caught up to this decade of football.
  
  You can't compare UC to Tulane or Hawaii. First, UC plays in a BCS conference. That alone gets advantages you could never capture in C-USA or the Wac. Second, Ohio and Cincinnati is a hotbed of football. In addition, UC has been getting kids from the state of Indiana and Michigan as well OSU can't get them all. UC has been making grounds by not taking kids away from OSU, but from the middle tier schools in the B10 (Michigan St, Purdue, Iowa, Illinois, etc.). You haven't even seen UC reach its potential as they best recruits ever are primarily underclassmen. Third, the Big East has proven it is a quality conference. Moreover, the conference has gotten a lot of exposure this year. UC/WVU/Pitt/UCONN have played nationally televised games and has earned respect across the country. WHen Hawaii, Tulane, et al where at their zenith, they never benefitted from this.
  
  Finally, since someone asked, here is UC's OOC for the next few years:
  
  2010- Oklahoma, NC State, Fresno, Miami
  2011- TN, NC State, Akron, Miami
  2012- OSU, Va Tech, San Diego State, Miami
  2013- Purdue, Illinois, Miami

  Alright... So basically you're saying because they play in a slightly bigger conference than the C-USA, that they will automatically be great with recruiting and become a powerhouse?
  
  False.
  
  USF struggles to bring in recruits because of Florida.
  Texas A&M and Tech struggle to bring in top recruits because of Texas.
  Cal struggles to bring in many top recruits because of Cal.
  
  Does it mean that UC can't get solid 4* and a few 5* recruits and be good? Not at all. But anybody thinking that UC is a football school, and that their football program is going to draw more students and recruits to the school is being silly, because it takes more than 4 good seasons to become a football school.
  
  Like I said also, my biggest reasoning is that Kelly won't be there after next season, if he doesn't leave this season. Kelly is the reason why that team has been successful. If he leaves, Cincy goes right back to 4-7 seasons.

  USF not only competes against Florida, they compete against FSU and Miami. Not to mention every Tom, Dick and Harry in the country raids the talent pool in Florida (UC included, we got Gilyard and some other youngsters from there). Texas is also split split multiple teams and players play elsewhere (every look at other B12 team's rosters--- everyone is from Texas). Sorry DaBrowns, you are wrong here.

  Point is, UC isn't a school known for their football program. Plain and simple.
• darbypitcher22

  

  But it very well could be based on the success they've had the past couple of years if they can sustain that momentum. It IS possible to be good at both at one school(look at Ohio State right now)
• DaBrowns41

  darbypitcher22 wrote: But it very well could be based on the success they've had the past couple of years if they can sustain that momentum. It IS possible to be good at both at one school(look at Ohio State right now)

  It is possible. But it's not probable.
  
  Their facilities, while improving, aren't that desirable, neither is their campus, city, or tradition. The only real desirable thing about Cincy is Brian Kelly. If he leaves, Cincy can kiss any great future goodbye, although they'll still win 6-7 games just by playing in the Big Least.
• darbypitcher22

  

  I don't think its a matter of if Kelly leaves, its when Kelly leaves, either at the end of this year or next year.
• DaBrowns41

  darbypitcher22 wrote: I don't think its a matter of if Kelly leaves, its when Kelly leaves, either at the end of this year or next year.

  I agree. I'm just saying that he makes that team better because he can take 3* talent and make them pretty solid football players. If he gets some nice recruits and somehow stays, then, I may start fearing Cincy. Until they prove to be a top 15 team year in and year out, they aren't going to be known for their football program.
• darbypitcher22

  

  thats true. I really hope though that they are somehow able to sustain the success once they get the facilities. Its good for the state to have 2 top programs and for somebody to be pushing Ohio State recruiting wise
• DaBrowns41

  darbypitcher22 wrote: thats true. I really hope though that they are somehow able to sustain the success once they get the facilities. Its good for the state to have 2 top programs and for somebody to be pushing Ohio State recruiting wise

  I'd welcome that. I'm not trying to say that I don't want Cincy to do that. I'm just saying that I'm not positive that they'll be able to.
  
  Not to mention Florida and Texas are bigger recruiting states than Ohio. While we are 3rd or 4th, they are considerably larger than us when it comes to recruits. That's just another reason why I'm doubting it.
• darbypitcher22

  

  And we don't go to Texas or Cali anymore, haven't since Cooper was here. We got Shugarts but that's about it since the Tressel era. I don't think we venture west of the Mississippi anymore.
• DaBrowns41

  Yeah we only have 3 players west of Miss. Guiton (Texas), Shugarts (Texas), and WR Grant Schwartz (California).
• darbypitcher22

  

  I for some reason remember having at least 3 or 4 skill players at a time from the Texas area and at least 1 or 2 from California under Cooper...