Better Ohio State Offense: 1998 or 2006?

• Manhattan Buckeye

  The 1998 team wasn't just the best Ohio St. team in my lifetime, they may have been the best college football team of the 90's, I'm certainly old enough to remember the Michigan St. game - that was a kick to the stomach. What made the loss even worse was the craptacular national championshp game between FSU and Tennessee (Tennessee won, who should have lost to Arkansas a few weeks earlier). OSU would have beaten either team by two touchdowns. Aside from the Michigan St. disaster, they didn't win a game by fewer than 15 points until the Sugar Bowl, where the game was never really in question.
• Ty Webb

  

  Manhattan Buckeye;483843 wrote:The 1998 team wasn't just the best Ohio St. team in my lifetime, they may have been the best college football team of the 90's, I'm certainly old enough to remember the Michigan St. game - that was a kick to the stomach. What made the loss even worse was the craptacular national championshp game between FSU and Tennessee (Tennessee won, who should have lost to Arkansas a few weeks earlier). OSU would have beaten either team by two touchdowns. Aside from the Michigan St. disaster, they didn't win a game by fewer than 15 points until the Sugar Bowl, where the game was never really in question.

  
  They were very very good...but they weren't as good as that '95 Nebraska team. That was the best CFB in history
  
  I would put the '98 OSU team 2nd though
• Sonofanump

  '84 & '95 could be considered also.
• mallymal614

  Ty Webb;484251 wrote:They were very very good...but they weren't as good as that '95 Nebraska team. That was the best CFB in history
  
  I would put the '98 OSU team 2nd though

  
  When it Comes to the 90s
  
  1. 1995 Nebraska
  2. 1998 Ohio State
  3. 1994 Penn State
• TheMightyGators

  2006??? LOL
  
  -signed 2006 Florida Defense.
• TheMightyGators

  Manhattan Buckeye;483843 wrote: What made the loss even worse was the craptacular national championshp game between FSU and Tennessee (Tennessee won, who should have lost to Arkansas a few weeks earlier). OSU would have beaten either team by two touchdowns.

  would they have beaten them as bad as they beat Michigan St. that year? See the difference between the 3 schools?
• lhslep134

  

  Ty Webb;484251 wrote:They were very very good...but they weren't as good as that '95 Nebraska team. That was the best CFB in history
  

  
  Nope.
  
  2001 Miami
  
  S. Taylor
  E. Reed
  J. Shockey
  A. Johnson
  N. Davenport
  C. Portis
  W. McGahee
  Br. McKinnie
  V. Wilfork
  W. Joseph
  DJ Williams
  J. Vilma
  P. Buchanon
  M. Rumph
  
  That's the best collection of talent ever seen. That's not even including Frank Gore who was injured that year as well as freshman Kellen Winslow.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  "P. Buchanon
  M. Rumph"
  
  Buchanon was bad enough, but Rumph might well be the worst Cornerback to ever start an NFL game. He got by in college with his athleticism (and his teammates). But got exposed day 1 in the NFL.
• BigAppleBuckeye

  

  TheMightyGators;484627 wrote:2010??? LOL
  
  -signed 2010 Miami of Ohio Defense.

  
  fixed
• lhslep134

  

  Manhattan Buckeye;484711 wrote:"P. Buchanon
  M. Rumph"
  
  Buchanon was bad enough, but Rumph might well be the worst Cornerback to ever start an NFL game. He got by in college with his athleticism (and his teammates). But got exposed day 1 in the NFL.

  
  
  NFL stats have nothing to do with how good a player was in college.
  
  Eric Crouch
  Salaam
  Troy Smith
  Matt Leinart
  
  So because those guys flopped in the pros it takes away how good they were in college? Don't think so.
• lhslep134

  

  BigAppleBuckeye;484737 wrote:fixed

  
  Don't understand how you can fault him for what he said. OSU's offense was badly exposed in the national championship game. Just because you're pissed at Florida and their fans doesn't mean he's wrong.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  Was Rumph really good in college? Looks to me he was pedestrian at best....and yeah, NFL success isn't a measure, but Rumph was epically awful. He was a first round pick that had to switch positions in the first year because he was so bad and the 49'ers already paid him first round money and had to keep him to save face. Again, not a joke - Rumph was probably the worst starting Cornerback in NFL history.
• centralbucksfan

  lhslep134;484740 wrote:Don't understand how you can fault him for what he said. OSU's offense was badly exposed in the national championship game. Just because you're pissed at Florida and their fans doesn't mean he's wrong.

  
  No offense, but I don't buy into the "exposed". One game doesn't not equate to being "exposed". That is the beauty of college sports, it is only one game compared to a series in pro sports. Upsets are not exactly rare. IN pro sports, they are as the better team typically comes out in a series of games.
  Nothing against Fla, they were the better team that nite, no question at all.
• lhslep134

  

  Manhattan Buckeye;484744 wrote:Was Rumph really good in college? Looks to me he was pedestrian at best....and yeah, NFL success isn't a measure, but Rumph was epically awful. He was a first round pick that had to switch positions in the first year because he was so bad and the 49'ers already paid him first round money and had to keep him to save face. Again, not a joke - Rumph was probably the worst starting Cornerback in NFL history.

  
  Okay and Eric Crouch had to try out as a SAFETY. So again, you CAN'T use NFL results as a nullifier or qualifier of college talent.
  
  And Rumph was all Big East in 2000 and 2001. And opponents rarely threw at him. So yes, he was good.
• lhslep134

  

  centralbucksfan;484751 wrote:No offense, but I don't buy into the "exposed". One game doesn't not equate to being "exposed". That is the beauty of college sports, it is only one game compared to a series in pro sports. Upsets are not exactly rare. IN pro sports, they are as the better team typically comes out in a series of games.
  Nothing against Fla, they were the better team that nite, no question at all.

  
  So then what say you about the performance?
• FatHobbit

  

  centralbucksfan;484751 wrote:No offense, but I don't buy into the "exposed". One game doesn't not equate to being "exposed". That is the beauty of college sports, it is only one game compared to a series in pro sports. Upsets are not exactly rare. IN pro sports, they are as the better team typically comes out in a series of games.
  Nothing against Fla, they were the better team that nite, no question at all.

  
  Just curious cbf, do you think OSU would have won a series with Florida? Everyone thought OSU and Michigan were so great that year and there was a decent argument that could have been made for Michigan still deserving to get into the championship game. (I felt like the BCS was manipulated by everyone so they didn't get that shot. If I remember correctly UM was still 2nd in the BCS the week after that game. They didn't fall until everyone decided they didn't want them to get the rematch.) But after Florida whipped OSU and USC whipped Michigan I think they were both highly over rated that year.
• BigAppleBuckeye

  

  lhslep134;484740 wrote:Don't understand how you can fault him for what he said. OSU's offense was badly exposed in the national championship game. Just because you're pissed at Florida and their fans doesn't mean he's wrong.

  
  I am not pissed at Florida fans. Do you know me? No need to jump to conclusions.
  
  Yes, OSU shit the bed in the BCS title game. But with Ginn out, and Smith not looking Gonzo's way after banging his girlfriend (which led to a fight), was that really an accurate portrayal of OSU's true offense that night?
• lhslep134

  

  BigAppleBuckeye;484776 wrote:I am not pissed at Florida fans. Do you know me? No need to jump to conclusions.
  
  Yes, OSU shit the bed in the BCS title game. But with Ginn out, and Smith not looking Gonzo's way after banging his girlfriend (which led to a fight), was that really an accurate portrayal of OSU's true offense that night?

  
  
  
  Why aren't you pissed at Gibby/Ty Webb? He's an embarrassment to all college football fans. I was just busting your chops BAB you know I don't have anything against you.
  
  And yes, what happened that night wasn't necessarily an accurate portrayal of OSU's true offense that year, but we also don't know what would have happened at full strength. I will always wonder what if...
• BigAppleBuckeye

  

  lhslep134;484798 wrote:Why aren't you pissed at Gibby/Ty Webb? He's an embarrassment to all college football fans. I was just busting your chops BAB you know I don't have anything against you.
  
  And yes, what happened that night wasn't necessarily an accurate portrayal of OSU's true offense that year, but we also don't know what would have happened at full strength. I will always wonder what if...

  We're cool man, I reread my post, didn't mean to sound that pissy!
  
  In retrospect, I just looked at some of the scores from that '98 team (I had season tickets that year, and that MSU loss still kills me) -- man we really kicked some ass that year. I may have to change my vote ...
  
  On a side note, this 2010 team is racking up over 40 points per game! ...
• Ty Webb

  

  lhslep134;484652 wrote:Nope.
  
  2001 Miami
  
  S. Taylor
  E. Reed
  J. Shockey
  A. Johnson
  N. Davenport
  C. Portis
  W. McGahee
  Br. McKinnie
  V. Wilfork
  W. Joseph
  DJ Williams
  J. Vilma
  P. Buchanon
  M. Rumph
  
  That's the best collection of talent ever seen. That's not even including Frank Gore who was injured that year as well as freshman Kellen Winslow.

  
  Did you or have you ever watched any film of the '95 Nebraska team. They had 3 backs average 100 yards a game,and won each game by almost 40 points. They completly destroyed what was at the time believed to be the best Florida team ever
  
  They would have beaten that '01 Miami team by atleast 28 points
• mallymal614

  Ty Webb;484813 wrote:Did you or have you ever watched any film of the '95 Nebraska team. They had 3 backs average 100 yards a game,and won each game by almost 40 points. They completly destroyed what was at the time believed to be the best Florida team ever
  
  They would have beaten that '01 Miami team by atleast 28 points

  
  Though I agree Nebraska probably wins that game, but not by 28 points lol. Give 2001 Miami more props than that because they were dominant as well.
• sleeper

  

  cats gone wild;483408 wrote:How many people on this site followed OSU in 98? Probably very few.

  
  How many SEC fans were there in 98?
• lhslep134

  

  Ty Webb;484813 wrote:Did you or have you ever watched any film of the '95 Nebraska team. They had 3 backs average 100 yards a game,and won each game by almost 40 points. They completly destroyed what was at the time believed to be the best Florida team ever
  
  They would have beaten that '01 Miami team by atleast 28 points

  
  I'll take Miami's D that year over Nebraska's O. You think that team would be able to run for a ton of yards against a team with Vince Wilfork, Ed Reed, DJ Williams, Jon Vilma among others? Not in my opinion.
  
  That Florida team they beat didn't have anything special on D either, it was strictly in the title game because of the awesome offense.
  
  The fact you think Nebraska would win by 28+ tells me all I need to know about your (lack of) college football knowledge.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  lhslep134;484753 wrote:Okay and Eric Crouch had to try out as a SAFETY. So again, you CAN'T use NFL results as a nullifier or qualifier of college talent.
  
  And Rumph was all Big East in 2000 and 2001. And opponents rarely threw at him. So yes, he was good.

  
  We'll agree to disagree. The Big East sucked back then. I don't care about voting for Big East honors. I care about talent. And Rumph couldn't guard a paper bag - and was exposed immediately in the NFL. He simply sucked big time, doesn't even begin to belong on that list of players.
• cats gone wild

  sleeper;484867 wrote:How many SEC fans were there in 98?

  
  Couldnt tell ya.....but it was the first team out of 4 teams from the SEC to win titles in the BCS era for a total of 6. Compared to the Big 10's one title.