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• charliehustle14

  fan_from_texas wrote:

  charliehustle14 wrote:

  Cleveland Buck wrote: I agree with Ferentz. Iowa is 10-2 and had several key injuries. I think they would still be unbeaten if Robinson and Stanzi didn't get hurt.

  Stanzi or not, Iowa still should have handled NW. Especially with a 10-0 lead at the time.

  And Ohio State should have handled Purdue.
  
  There are some bad selections in aggregate, especially on the defensive side. I don't think the COY selection is particularly egregious, though; the selection generally is some combination of results + improvement + results over expectations. On that metric, Ferentz, Fitzgerald, and Tressel all have good arguments, and I don't think it would be unreasonable for any of the three to win.
  
  Re locker room material: if being snubbed in the all-conference selections is necessary to motivate someone, that person has some serious issues. You shouldn't need that to be fired up to play in big time D1 football.

  Well according to all-Big Ten selections, Purdue is a better team than OSU.
• Hb31187

  

  Yes...so owned
  
  
  But thats part of my point, you guys win and still find things to nitpick, get over it.
• bighawk

  The reason the defensive players didn't have great stats individually was because they rotated. These guys from the other Big 10 teams were on the field majority of the time.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  jpake1 wrote: I don't see why all of you guys are so shocked by the outcomes. I don't think any OSU player should have been 1st team offense. I agree with Boren and Saine being 2nd. The only possible grip is Posey not being 2nd over DJK and the NW guy. Pryor wasn't getting 2nd team, even though I don't think the NW guy was worthy.
  
  As for defense, I see nothing wrong in terms of OSU players. There were just simply more guys more deserving than Heyward and Gibson to be 1st team. I don't even know if Gibson should be 2nd team. Look at the stats guys, they don't lie. There were a couple games that Heyward and Gibson didn't even show up (Purdue, Iowa, etc)-- but you forgot about those right? Rolle could have possibly been 2nd team, but it was a close call. OSU had the best defense, but its because they had a lot of really good players. In a sense, they took away from each other. Those guys can have their awards, OSU has their own

• september63

  

  Here is the problem. The coaches voting cane have it BOTH ways. If your team has only one first team conference selection yet you won the conference. Why not coach of the year? He must have coached them up better than a team with 6 or 7 first teamers!! Is BS for Tressell to own the big 10 since he has been here and to never get a coach of the year!!