Klein and Williams charged with assault

• gibby08

  

  Not a suprise that Ohio State fans are sticking up for these guys
• sjmvsfscs08

  devil1197;439088 wrote:Have you met every OSU player? Since you said a majority are all assholes, dipshits, and douches. Just wondering if you have spent time with everyone of them?

  
  I've met my fair share. Jamaal Berry was a cool guy, tried to get me to write his English paper for him haha, but the rest were basically douches looking for alcohol and pussy nonstop (so in that sense they are similar to 18-22 year-old dipshits). I work with a walk-on and even he is just a clown.
• lhslep134

  

  thedynasty1998;439090 wrote:I tend to stick up for the athletes, but this just isn't true. They are not your typical 18-22 year old kids. These are kids who play football for a top University, in a city that supports them 100% and for the most part can't just go out without being noticed/asked for autographs.
  
  Plus, football players in general are meatheads who walk around like tough guys. I don't mean that in a bad way, it's just a fact. Every campus across the US, if you ask what the perception of the football team is, it will be that they walk around like they are badasses.

  
  Then you're underestimating the douchbaggery of 18-22 year olds haha.
  
  
  I don't know where you went to school, but being a part of frat life at OSU, I can tell you that I can't possible fathom that football players can be more douchey than the people I see and interact with.
  
  Do they think they can get away with more? Probably. But do they act like bigger assholes? I just don't see it.
• se-alum

  

  j_crazy;439070 wrote:i think the ncaa should come out with a flat rule on this shit.
  
  leave no grey area.
  
  any misdemeanor or felony charges = no playing until you're found innocent or the charges dropped and you lose eligibility for the duration of the process.
  
  any misdemeanor convictions, or felony convictions = automatically banned for life.
  
  if a kid knew that he/she would have to wait potentially a year for a trial before being able to play again (and that any time lost can't be made up), they'd think harder about doing dumb shit. and if they did the dumb shit anyway, they deserve to have the book thrown at them.

  
  Ridiculous. You could have a misdemeanor assault charge for ACCIDENTALLY causing harm to someone else, if your actions are deemed reckless. So basically you could be at a party, get hammered, trip and fall into someone breaking their ankle, and be charged w/ assault. Every case has to be looked at separately.
• gibby08

  

  They beat the kid up,it wasn't an "accident"
• se-alum

  

  gibby08;439177 wrote:They beat the kid up,it wasn't an "accident"

  Comprehension would serve you well.
• sportchampps

  They were double teaming his girl and then double teamed him.
• thedynasty1998

  

  lhslep134;439158 wrote:Then you're underestimating the douchbaggery of 18-22 year olds haha.
  
  
  I don't know where you went to school, but being a part of frat life at OSU, I can tell you that I can't possible fathom that football players can be more douchey than the people I see and interact with.
  
  Do they think they can get away with more? Probably. But do they act like bigger assholes? I just don't see it.

  
  Each would be put into different social categories. No doubt the frat boys would be described as "douches", yet I don't think you necessarily call a football player that. Football players are more generally called assholes. I know it's just a play on words, but I do think it's different.
  
  And let's not pretend for one second that frat boys and football players are in the same social class on a University Campus, unless we are talking Ivy League.
• Hb31187

  

  Shocking, it involves a starter and potential break out player so they wont be charged.
  
  Not that its possible to prove, but id be willing to bet $ that if this were 2 bench bums, charges would be pressed and suspensions made
• thedynasty1998

  

  Hb31187;439199 wrote:Shocking, it involves a starter and potential break out player so they wont be charged.
  
  Not that its possible to prove, but id be willing to bet $ that if this were 2 bench bums, charges would be pressed and suspensions made

  
  Completely disagree. Do OSU football players get protected? Absolutely. But I don't think this is an example. Dude needed some stitches after getting hammered at a party and getting punched. Even if he's telling the truth, it would be one's word against another.
• lhslep134

  

  thedynasty1998;439192 wrote:Each would be put into different social categories. No doubt the frat boys would be described as "douches", yet I don't think you necessarily call a football player that. Football players are more generally called assholes. I know it's just a play on words, but I do think it's different.
  
  And let's not pretend for one second that frat boys and football players are in the same social class on a University Campus, unless we are talking Ivy League.

  Firstly, I completely agree with the first part of the your post.
  
  Secondly, it depends.
  
  I know some hot sorority girls that would rather party with a frat than football players, but at the same time there's a fuckton of "jersey chasers" on campus that would love nothing more than for a football player to be inside her.
  
  I guess it works both ways, but at some schools Frat guys and football players can be pretty close in social status depending on the school and the frat.
  
  Obviously at OSU, football players are higher on the totem pole, as are other athletes, but I don't think it's as spead out as you think.
• Tiernan

  Last Fall on this site I said Storm Klein would never be more than a good "special teams" player and got vilified by every Rural Ohio Hick football fan on here. Now he's proving my point because Tress Don't Mess ...he throws out da trash.
• Hb31187

  

  thedynasty1998;439205 wrote:Completely disagree. Do OSU football players get protected? Absolutely. But I don't think this is an example. Dude needed some stitches after getting hammered at a party and getting punched. Even if he's telling the truth, it would be one's word against another.

  
  How is this not being protected? If this was you or me, the charges would stick and we'd be arrested
• centralbucksfan

  tcarrier32;439041 wrote:im sorry, but lets for a moment take off the OSU blinders and realize that the victim did not touch either Klein or Williams hard enough to leave any physical mark.
  
  secondly, i doubt most people on this board will ever realize just how big of douches most of the ohio state football team is. there are a few nice ones (jamaal berry for instance), but most are dipshits. It wouldnt surprise me one bit if this story were true. that being said, i hope they cant play. im sorry, but its starting to get really fucking old.

  LOL...we'll take off our goggles if and when you EVER decide to take off yours! LOL Maybe the most hypocritical comment on here.
• centralbucksfan

  thedynasty1998;439205 wrote:Completely disagree. Do OSU football players get protected? Absolutely. But I don't think this is an example. Dude needed some stitches after getting hammered at a party and getting punched. Even if he's telling the truth, it would be one's word against another.

  Couldn't disagree more with the protected comment. I think its more to the opposite then the other way around. If they were protected, do you really believe we would even hear about much of the stuff we do through media? Players are often targets when out and about. There is always a moron who thinks he is a bad ass and tries to start something. Moeller is a prime example of this.
  The issue likes within the players then making a choice to walk away, or not. Unfortunately, most of the time, their egos won't let them do the smart thing.
  I am not sticking up for them at all, believe me. These things make me ill. But again, they are not surprising. Even at my age, I can remember being in college, and rarely remember being at one where a fight did NOT break out. But when its an OSU athlete, its makes the headlines quickly. As it should, as they should and are held to a higher standard.
  I have confidence Tressel will do what he should do.
• thedynasty1998

  

  lhslep134;439208 wrote:I guess it works both ways, but at some schools Frat guys and football players can be pretty close in social status depending on the school and the frat.

  That's why I said Ivy League.
  

  Hb31187;439215 wrote:How is this not being protected? If this was you or me, the charges would stick and we'd be arrested

  
  I disagree. How many times a night in Columbus does a guy get punched and charges are filed? I'd say less than 5%, so let's not make this something more than what it is.
• lhslep134

  

  thedynasty1998;439229 wrote:That's why I said Ivy League.

  
  Not just Ivy League, but one of my friends is in I guess what you'd call a premier frat at Arizona and he said that they're about at the same social level as football players. It just takes being at a school where football isn't the biggest deal so players aren't worshipped.
• vball10set

  LJ;439047 wrote:+1

  -1
• Writerbuckeye

  

  Anyone who thinks this is the old days where the police wink and each other and drive the football player home is delusional.
  
  In this media-driven age, if there's a charge to be made -- you can be assured it will be made. If for no other reason than the cops are going to protect their asses. If they are shown to be giving preferential treatment to an OSU player, their jobs would be on the line.
  
  With everyone carrying camera phones, texting, tweets and everything else, there's no way players get away with crap now. Too many eyes and too many folks out there who can document what's going on.
  
  If these guys don't end up being charged, you can be damn sure it's because the evidence doesn't support a charge.
  
  That being the case, they should be given the same benefit of doubt anyone else would get, instead of ASSuming they are criminals just because they wear an OSU jersey on Saturdays.
• lhslep134

  

  Writerbuckeye;439277 wrote:Anyone who thinks this is the old days where the police wink and each other and drive the football player home is delusional.
  
  In this media-driven age, if there's a charge to be made -- you can be assured it will be made. If for no other reason than the cops are going to protect their asses. If they are shown to be giving preferential treatment to an OSU player, their jobs would be on the line.
  
  With everyone carrying camera phones, texting, tweets and everything else, there's no way players get away with crap now. Too many eyes and too many folks out there who can document what's going on.
  
  If these guys don't end up being charged, you can be damn sure it's because the evidence doesn't support a charge.
  
  That being the case, they should be given the same benefit of doubt anyone else would get, instead of ASSuming they are criminals just because they wear an OSU jersey on Saturdays.

  
  +1.5 (half point for the ASS)
• SportsAndLady

  

  Man this is pussy shit..at Ohio university, our players jump through glass windows while B&E...or they run their huge ass trucks into classroom buildings and 3 parked cars.
• ts1227

  

  Tiernan;439214 wrote:Last Fall on this site I said Storm Klein would never be more than a good "special teams" player and got vilified by every Rural Ohio Hick football fan on here. Now he's proving my point because Tress Don't Mess ...he throws out da trash.

  I was going to say this... the Klein fans were awfully quiet on this thread compared to how they were on the old HS forums... they viewed him as an absolute god (and some of it was warranted, but they blew 90% of it completely out of proportion) It was almost as bad as reading shit about Ben Mauk when he was in HS.
  

  SportsAndLady;439337 wrote:Man this is pussy shit..at Ohio university, our players jump through glass windows while B&E...or they run their huge ass trucks into classroom buildings and 3 parked cars.

  
  Don't forget that he was drunk when he hit Copeland too.
• Cat Food Flambe'

  

  Not sticking up for this particular case one way or the other without facts (which doesn't seen a problem for several of us here) - but you also have to understand that players at a prominent college football program anywhere also get more than their share of crap thrown their way by drunken males flexing their beer muscles.
  
  I lived next door to Vince Skillings for a year. You couldn't ask to meet a nicer guy -polite, sociable, and completely unpretentious. He'd head out to High Street watering holes with with rest of us - you wouldn't believe how many times some complete stranger would walk up and get crappy with him.
• thedynasty1998

  

  Cat Food Flambe';439367 wrote:Not sticking up for this particular case one way or the other without facts (which doesn't seen a problem for several of us here) - but you also have to understand that players at a prominent college football program anywhere also get more than their share of crap thrown their way by drunken males flexing their beer muscles.
  
  I lived next door to Vince Skillings for a year. You couldn't ask to meet a nicer guy -polite, sociable, and completely unpretentious. He'd head out to High Street watering holes with with rest of us - you wouldn't believe how many times some complete stranger would walk up and get crappy with him.

  
  Very good point that people seem to forget. A little off topic, but I remember when Thad Matta pulled his guys out of the Worthington Summer League (used to be a really solid pro am in Columbus before the pro guys started going elsewhere).
  
  A lot of fans weren't happy because it was a way to get up and personal with the Buckeye players, but it was borderline dangerous how some street guys would "get their chance to prove themselves" against the OSU guys. I remember on several occasions an OSU player going up for a dunk and some dude from the streets "not giving up an easy basket" or trying to prove themselves with a hard foul. Best thing Matta ever did was to pull his guys out of that league, IMO.
• se-alum

  

  NBC wrote:COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Two Ohio State football players have not been charged in a case of assault over the weekend as NBC 4 initially reported.
  Columbus police reported Nate Williams and Storm Klein were suspects in the assault of a man at a party Sunday morning.
  A Columbus police spokesperson says no charges have been filed at this time.
  We sincerely regret this error.

  FYI