Hypothetical scenario for BCS NC game.
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BCSbunkOkay you are a voter and here is what happens to end the season.
Auburn beat Alabama Where do they drop in the polls?
Nebraska defeats Texas in the Big 12 title game. Where does Texas drop in the polls?
Alabama then defeats Florida in the SEC title game. Where does Florida drop in the polls?
TCU, Cincinnati and Boise St stay undefeated.
Who plays in the NC game and most importantly why? -
sleeperI'd really like to see OSU Florida in the BCS National Championship game, but I know that's not going to happen.
In your scenario, I think you have to give Cinci a shot and Alabama. It's tough though, with this system, because I think TCU and Boise can play with the big boys but without a playoff you have to go with two programs that are worthy and that's Bama and Cinci. -
ptown_trojans_1A 1 loss SEC team is almost guaranteed a shot at the title, therefor under that situation Bama would go to the title game, as they would probably jump to 2 after beating Florida.
If Texas falls, I can easily see TCU jumping in there replacing them, or Cincy falling in there if their computer points bump them above TCU.
So, I can see a Bama vs. TCU/ Cincy national title game in that sense.
Texas and Florida would probably drop to 4th and 5th, but I can see them still ahead of Boise in the polls.
It is not crazy to think of, but unlikely. -
Cleveland BuckMy ballot would be:
1. Cincinnati
2. TCU
3. Florida
4. Texas
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Cleveland BuckAnd I don't think my ballot really needs explanation. I don't know if that would happen though.
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devil1197With that scenario, Bama vs. Cincy in the NCG.
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Cleveland BuckI honestly think we would see TCU vs. Cincy in that scenario. Alabama would fall to around 7 for losing to a bad Auburn team. Florida wouldn't be so penalized for losing to Alabama. I still don't think a one loss team would end up ahead of TCU or Cincy in the polls. The only is question is if Florida would still be ahead of TCU in the computers.
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Elliot Stabler
No you don'tsleeper wrote: I'd really like to see OSU Florida in the BCS National Championship game, -
Al Bundy
If all those things happened, I think 1 loss Alabama would be ahead of 1 loss Florida when Alabama beats them head-to-head and Florida lost last.Cleveland Buck wrote: My ballot would be:
1. Cincinnati
2. TCU
3. Florida
4. Texas
5. Alabama -
sleeper
LOLElliot Stabler wrote:
No you don'tsleeper wrote: I'd really like to see OSU Florida in the BCS National Championship game,
CLOWN. -
George CostanzaTCU vs Alabama.
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buckeyes_woowee1. Alabama
2. TCU
3. Florida
4. Cincy
5. Texas -
mhs95_06
I agree with this and also feel strongly that you should not keep a one loss SEC champion out of the NCG.devil1197 wrote: With that scenario, Bama vs. Cincy in the NCG. -
Red_Skin_Pride^Yet you would keep and undefeated TCU team out, who has a higher power ranking than either SEC team, and who's beaten a team playing in their conference championship game (Clemson, ACC) as well as two other top 20 teams? That's hard to justify. I could see why your logic might hold up if it were Boise State and they'd only played one good team, but Clemson's ranked #16 right now (and actually have a better power ranking than and plus they have their two wins over the ranked teams in their conference (BYU #16, Utah #15 at the time they played). Add in the fact that they chose to play another BCS conference team on the road (Virginia), instead of playing some little D-1AA or Sunbelt school, and they have a pretty strong argument that they've played at least 4 games (three on the road) that were as good as any of the teams in the discussion for the NC, and won all 4. Hard to dismiss an undefeated team who did what they needed to do in their biggest games and in the smaller games (i.e. avoiding the upset) to take an SEC team who is very good, but failed to deliver in their biggest game of the year. Especially if it's Florida. Florida is 38th in the SOS power rating as of this week, and TCU is 56. How much do you value (or devalue a team for) a loss? If a one loss Florida team plays for the NC because they're Florida, and they've won a couple recently, and leave TCU out, that's crap. Because they'd be lower in ranking than TCU, but still get in because they're Florida. That's just my opinion. I'm not trying to change your mind, just take it for what it's worth.
(power ratings) http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/overall-power-ranking-by-team
(SOS) http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team
Here's my hypothetical situation though; we know either Alabama or Florida is going to lose a game. If Texas loses to A&M, but then beats Nebraska, and Clemson beats GT in the ACC title game, Clemson will likely be in the top 10 by bowl selection time. TCU beat Clemson at home earlier this year. Does that help TCU's cause to get in over Cincy (assuming they go undefeated as well) and the one loss SEC team and a one loss Texas team? If I'm looking at this correctly, TCU would have the only win out of the current top 5, over another BCS conference's champion. Also, they will be the ONLY team with a win over another team who WILL get an auto BCS bid. Is this enough to get them into the NC game? Clemson's recent stretch of winning games has really helped TCU stay where they are in the rankings. Would it be enough to get them in the NC game, if Texas loses to A&M though? -
mhs95_06
That's why we need a minimum 12 team play-off system!Red_Skin_Pride wrote: ^Yet you would keep and undefeated TCU team out, who has a higher power ranking than either SEC team, and who's beaten a team playing in their conference championship game (Clemson, ACC) as well as two other top 20 teams? That's hard to justify. I could see why your logic might hold up if it were Boise State and they'd only played one good team, but Clemson's ranked #16 right now (and actually have a better power ranking than and plus they have their two wins over the ranked teams in their conference (BYU #16, Utah #15 at the time they played). Add in the fact that they chose to play another BCS conference team on the road (Virginia), instead of playing some little D-1AA or Sunbelt school, and they have a pretty strong argument that they've played at least 4 games (three on the road) that were as good as any of the teams in the discussion for the NC, and won all 4. Hard to dismiss an undefeated team who did what they needed to do in their biggest games and in the smaller games (i.e. avoiding the upset) to take an SEC team who is very good, but failed to deliver in their biggest game of the year. Especially if it's Florida. Florida is 38th in the SOS power rating as of this week, and TCU is 56. How much do you value (or devalue a team for) a loss? If a one loss Florida team plays for the NC because they're Florida, and they've won a couple recently, and leave TCU out, that's crap. Because they'd be lower in ranking than TCU, but still get in because they're Florida. That's just my opinion. I'm not trying to change your mind, just take it for what it's worth.
(power ratings) http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/overall-power-ranking-by-team
(SOS) http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team
Here's my hypothetical situation though; we know either Alabama or Florida is going to lose a game. If Texas loses to A&M, but then beats Nebraska, and Clemson beats GT in the ACC title game, Clemson will likely be in the top 10 by bowl selection time. TCU beat Clemson at home earlier this year. Does that help TCU's cause to get in over Cincy (assuming they go undefeated as well) and the one loss SEC team and a one loss Texas team? If I'm looking at this correctly, TCU would have the only win out of the current top 5, over another BCS conference's champion. Also, they will be the ONLY team with a win over another team who WILL get an auto BCS bid. Is this enough to get them into the NC game? Clemson's recent stretch of winning games has really helped TCU stay where they are in the rankings. Would it be enough to get them in the NC game, if Texas loses to A&M though? -
Little DannyIf UC wins out over Illinois and top ten ranked Pitt they will pass over TCU in the BCS polls. They already are ranked #2 by the computer polls and just tail TCU by .1 of a point. Wins over Pitt and Illinois will get them over the hump and into the final in the event of a TX/ SEC meltdown.
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darbypitcher22Cincy/TCU. Boise is left on the outside looking in just because there's going to be 3 undefeateds at that point.
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Jughead
Fixed!mhs95_06 wrote: That's why we need a minimum 120 team play-off system!
Cut the schedule short 3 weeks and start the playoffs the weekend before Thanksgiving. 6 weekends to get to the National Title game puts you finishing somewhere near the 2nd/3rd week of January. This is the only way to determine a true National Champion.