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OSU's Lenzelle Smith out 3-6 months

  • centralbucksfan
    thedynasty1998;445759 wrote:BTW, you are smarter than that. This might be one of the dumbest comments I've heard from you.

    Actually, its not. Almost all great coaches have their own philosophies, and stick to them. They establish this by practicing and hopefully perfecting their philosophy so that they can execute the game plan. A plan they have practiced all season, and/or leading up to the game. You also establish a confidence within your team. You stick to the things that your team is good at. You don't make a change to something your not so good, or even average at.
    Bob Knight was one of the few coaches who would not call a time out at the end of a game or half to "draw" up a play. When someone asked him why he doesn't...he said because we already know what we are going to do because we practice it. I suppose that was "bad" on his part? No, it was his philosophy.
    Think what you will, but in game adjustments are highly overrated. I am not saying they are not good, or a coach shouldn't do it...I am just saying that its the typical fan comment "after" that fact and it is in fact an overrated issue in terms of success.
  • CinciX12
    centralbucksfan;438920 wrote:What did he do? He is only one of a FEW coaches to EVER win conference titles in multiple conferences. He is one of a handful of coaches to win 20+ games EVERY season he has been a head coach. I could go on and on with Matta success as a head coach if I wanted.
    But according to YOU and others...if you don't win a national title, you are crap. So I guess MOST coaches are CRAP, and FEW good coaches. I guess Calipari is possibly the WORST coach based on what is being said about Matta then.
    Its obvious some of you have NEVER been involved in sports or coaching. There is MORE to being successful then just winning a national title. Every coach would love to do this. But it is not the ONLY thing that distinguishes what is successful, and what is NOT successful.

    Bottom line, you and most other X fans (I know more) are still VERY bitter about how Matta left X. Get over it.

    When you later tell me in the season that X hasn't accomplished anything, I will be sure to bring this up. You are so full of shit. Nothing can possibly be said negative about anything Ohio State without your panties getting in a bunch. I didn't even say a damn negative word about the guy.
  • thedynasty1998
    Really not sure why CBF is getting so worked up. Someone criticizes Matta slightly, and he gets on his high horse. No one said anything that critical of him.

    And I still don't understand the logic behind, "ingame adjustments are highly overrated".
  • centralbucksfan
    thedynasty1998;446080 wrote:Really not sure why CBF is getting so worked up. Someone criticizes Matta slightly, and he gets on his high horse. No one said anything that critical of him.

    And I still don't understand the logic behind, "ingame adjustments are highly overrated".

    First of all, I am nto worked up. Think what you will. Secondly, we can agree to disagree on in game adjustments. As I mentioned, that is an easy term to throw out after a game. When in fact..players win and lose a game most of time. Bball is far from a perfect science. You can draw up this and that, practice till you puke...but players still have to execute a game plan. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. And when they don't, quite often that was the simple reason someone lost a game. Or the other team was just better that nite.

    CinciX..your not even worth a reply anymore.
  • thedynasty1998
    centralbucksfan;447502 wrote:First of all, I am nto worked up. Think what you will. Secondly, we can agree to disagree on in game adjustments. As I mentioned, that is an easy term to throw out after a game. When in fact..players win and lose a game most of time. Bball is far from a perfect science. You can draw up this and that, practice till you puke...but players still have to execute a game plan. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. And when they don't, quite often that was the simple reason someone lost a game. Or the other team was just better that nite.

    CinciX..your not even worth a reply anymore.

    I get what you are saying, but for each game, a coach has a certain strategy on how to attack each opponent. Whether it's taking advantage of an individual matchup, taking advantage of an over aggressive team, attacking the paint, or doubling a certain guy.

    It's when the game starts and you see these things where in game adjustments are crucial. There were games last year when Evan Turner was denied the ball all over the court and faced a hard double team every time he touched it. An adjustment was made to change OSU's offensive game plan. Whether that's something that is covered in practice or not doesn't matter, it's still something that requires an in game adjustment.
  • Laley23
    centralbucksfan;445806 wrote: What you fail to recognize are circumstances that affected not making the NCAA the one season, and of course the other had nothing to do with Matta.

    Losing to a lower seed isn't always an 'upset" as seeding can be very subjective especially when you make it to the sweet 16. His second season, arguably Matta best coaching, that team overachieved BIG time. And this past season, the same. Both deserving of #2 seed...but neither quite "that" good.

    Point being, if he didnt advance in 2007, he would be considered an underachiever at OSU.

    All the other stuff you posted (that I didnt quote) I agree with, but it really has no bearing on what I am talking about or in responding to the initial question of the thread from the OP.

    The loss to Siena wasnt a bad loss to those who follow basketball, but it is still a first round exit. The other 2 losses, while not bad losses either are still upsets as a #2 seed. It is underachieving as a 2 seed to not make the Sweet 16 for sure, and would be considered an upset if you dont make the Elite 8 when a 6 seed comes as your opponent.

    Again, this is disregarding his 2007 and his Butler/Xavier days which CLEARLY show he is NOT an underachiever in the tourney. I am just saying, that based on what the OP asked, yes.....in his other 3 years of judging (IF that was all we had to go on) would be considered an underachiever.