More Big 10 rumors: Pursuing Texas

• WebFire

  Some emails between OSU president Gee and Big 10 commish Delaney reveal that the Big 10 is/was pursuing Texas.
  
  http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/06/report-big-ten-looking-to-hook-texas.html
  
  I'll believe it when I see it, but this is the best proof of anything happening that we've had so far.
• thedynasty1998

  

  First off, I don't think that the email that the Dispatch got ahold of proves anything.
  
  Secondly, I don't think it was ever a secret that the Big 10 wanted Texas.
• WebFire

  thedynasty1998;379313 wrote:First off, I don't think that the email that the Dispatch got ahold of proves anything.
  
  Secondly, I don't think it was ever a secret that the Big 10 wanted Texas.

  
  Well, it proves that they have indeed talked to Texas. And I don't think it was a secret either, just more rumor than fact.
• FatHobbit

  

  I would love to get Texas and Nebraska in the big ten.
• sjmvsfscs08

  I would hate for Texas to join the Big Ten.
• krambman

  

  When all of this conference realignment happens Texas probably stands to make the most money FOR whichever conference they join. They bring two big media markets (Houston and Dallas) and are one of the largest athletic departments in the country (along with Ohio State and Florida). Texas is big money for whoever gets them.
• the_system

  krambman;379787 wrote:When all of this conference realignment happens Texas probably stands to make the most money FOR whichever conference they join.

  I mentioned this in the other thread, but are they willing to share it evenly? I'm not saying they wouldn't but if they do it will be something different than what they are doing in the Big 12 right now. Texas is in a position where they could start their own TV network (it's already in the works) and make more money than sharing a piece of the pie with everyone. They're the reason there is not a Big 12 network. They don't want one.
  

  They bring two big media markets (Houston and Dallas) and are one of the largest athletic departments in the country (along with Ohio State and Florida). Texas is big money for whoever gets them.

  
  Texas is the largest in terms of $....but not along with OSU and Florida. Notre Dame, Penn State, Nebraska, and Alabama all bring in more money than those two. When looking at profit, Penn State ($50mil) and Nebraska ($49mil) aren't too far from Texas ($59mil). OSU is at ($36mil) and Florida ($41mil).
  
  http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/article/135844
  
  If the Big 10 can get Texas to join they would no doubt bring in a ton of money. If they can manage to get Texas to share, and probably make less money than they could on their own, then that is even more impressive.
• skank

  

  Looks like there is a good posibility that Texas will be a member of the Pac 10.
• the_system

  According to this article, Jim Tressel met with Nebraska AD Tom Osborne and Osborne wanted to set up a meeting with himself and Nebraska Chancellor Harvey Pearlman to discuss the expansion.
  
  Nebraska athletic director Tom Osborne sent university chancellor Harvey Perlman a request through e-mail, also obtained through an open records request, on April 20 that stated: "I spent some time with Jim Tressel from Ohio State yesterday and think it would be a good idea if we met sometime soon regarding the expansion landscape."
  
  http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/colleges/topstories/stories/060510dnspotechlede.1cffc16.html
• SportsAndLady

  

  the_system;379953 wrote:According to this article, Jim Tressel met with Nebraska AD Tom Osborne and Osborne wanted to set up a meeting with himself and Nebraska Chancellor Harvey Pearlman to discuss the expansion.
  
  Nebraska athletic director Tom Osborne sent university chancellor Harvey Perlman a request through e-mail, also obtained through an open records request, on April 20 that stated: "I spent some time with Jim Tressel from Ohio State yesterday and think it would be a good idea if we met sometime soon regarding the expansion landscape."
  
  http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/colleges/topstories/stories/060510dnspotechlede.1cffc16.html

  
  What could that mean?
• jordo212000

  

  The Big 12 gave Missouri and Nebraska ultimatums. Kind of funny that they didn't tighten the screws on Texas when Texas has been just as active with the Big 10
• sjmvsfscs08

  Am I the only one that sees the possibility of Texas going independent? I'm sure they'd get the "Notre Dame clause" for the BCS, their fan base is big enough, and they make the most money (and even more if they were independent). Texas is one of a handful of teams that stands to benefit from becoming an independent. They are the reason the Big XII is so screwed up. They are the school holding everyone else down. It's the reason Nebraska wants out of the Big XII.
  
  Nebraska could become an independent too if they wished. It's not like it'd last forever but given their ultimatum it might be best to just say "fuck you Big XII/Texas" and go independent until the Big Ten sends an invitation their way.
• Zoltan

  I think whatever conference Texas ends up in the state legislature might make sure Tech and A&M end up there as well. Not 100% but its something to consider.
  
  This whole realignment issue is getting crazier by the minute and one move could sway everything. It has reached a point where if some of the reported interests are true its gone way beyond football and sports. This is now about research dollars and I would not put any scenario off the table. I think Mizzou, Nebraska and Maryland are going to the Big 10, with Texas likely to the Pac-10. College football will never be the same when this is done IMO.
• the_system

  Tom Osborne is ready to put this to bed.
  
  http://my.journalstar.com/post/Husker_Extra_Group/Husker_Extra/blog/osborne_not_taking_part_in_speculation.html
• 3reppom

  

  jordo212000;381175 wrote:The Big 12 gave Missouri and Nebraska ultimatums. Kind of funny that they didn't tighten the screws on Texas when Texas has been just as active with the Big 10

  
  Texas has all the power in any available scenario. The Big 12 can't say "hey Texas knock it the fuck off" because that is their cash cow and the only reason why the league has remained as fiscally viable as it has been over the last few years. There is a saying in College sports that you never let the coach become bigger than the athletic director. When it comes to conferences you should never let one school be bigger than the conference lest they consume it. Texas is bigger than the Big 12. Much, much bigger.
• killer_ewok

  

  Well, ND is still in the mix......
  
  http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/06/08/big-ten-notre-dame-are-talking-again/?synd=1
  
  I REALLY hope that they join the Big 10.
• WebFire

  Looks like Nebraska will join if the Big 10 sends an invite.
  
  http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5265631
• the_system

  WebFire;383995 wrote:Looks like Nebraska will join if the Big 10 sends an invite.
  
  http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5265631

  
  I just checked out the huskers rivals board. There are a few there that have been around the board for a long time who claim they know people from within and it is already done. Nebraska is crossing their t's and dotting their i's according to them and will make everything official in the next few days.
• The Equalizer

  

  With new reports saying that Notre Dame and the Big 10 are talking about conference expansion and if you add the rumors of Nebraska and Missouri as well, I have to say I'm getting a little more intrigued by the idea. Last time we turned them down it was to keep our NBC money but if you expand the Big 10 Network further than it is with ND, Nebraska, and Missouri fan bases, the money's comparable and we won't have to play fucking Tulsa anymore.
  
  
  So then the question is let's say all 3 accept and no one from the Big East is added to make 16 (though if the Pac 10 steals the heart of the Big 12 and goes to 16 teams I think the Big 10 follows suit as well as the SEC), how do you make divisions which are competitive and fairly balanced and keep some rivals together?
  
  
  OSU, UM, PSU, MINN, ILL, IN, IOWA, PURDUE, MSU. WISC, NW, ND, NEB, MIZZ
  
  
  Obviously OSU, UM, and MSU have to be together so they can play every year. Now you need to balance that with 3 other decent teams (we have to expect UM to return to UM form at some point). We're going to choose PSU, NEB, and Wisconsin
  
  
  Thus far:
  
  
  OSU, UM, MSU
  
  PSU, WISC, NEB,
  
  
  
  IOWA, NORTHWESTERN, MIZZ, ND, IN, ILL, PURDUE, MINN are left.
  
  
  Now every division needs a jobber. A team that 9/10 years you'll skullfuck. Hello Indiana and Northwestern
  
  
  
  OSU, UM, MSU, INDIANA,
  
  
  PSU, WISC, NEB,NORTHWESTERN,
  
  MIZZ, ND, ILL, PURDUE, MINN, IOWA
  
  
  Now the nice thing is the remaining teams are all solid midcard/lower midcard teams. Any of these teams can go in either division but seeing how ND has played UM, MSU, and Purdue and Indiana and ND are all in Indiana...I think Purdue and ND in the top one is a no brainer. Also, MIZZ needs to stay with NEB.
  
  
  
  OSU, UM, MSU, INDIANA, ND, PURDUE, ILL
  
  
  PSU, WISC, NEB,NORTHWESTERN, MIZZ, IOWA, MINNESOTA
  
  Now one of the benefits of this setup is not only rivalries but geography. The bottom line with the exception of PSU is on the same side of the map. I know swapping PSU for ILL would make it better but then I think the top bracket is too loaded.
  
  And there we have it. A new Big 10. As a note, if they do go to 16, I think the adds ought to be PITT and Rutgers/UCONN. Just for the natural rivalry, PITT would have to go in PSU's division with the other east coast school going into OSU's.
• se-alum

  

  The Equalizer;384047 wrote:With new reports saying that Notre Dame and the Big 10 are talking about conference expansion and if you add the rumors of Nebraska and Missouri as well, I have to say I'm getting a little more intrigued by the idea. Last time we turned them down it was to keep our NBC money but if you expand the Big 10 Network further than it is with ND, Nebraska, and Missouri fan bases, the money's comparable and we won't have to play fucking Tulsa anymore.
  
  
  So then the question is let's say all 3 accept and no one from the Big East is added to make 16 (though if the Pac 10 steals the heart of the Big 12 and goes to 16 teams I think the Big 10 follows suit as well as the SEC), how do you make divisions which are competitive and fairly balanced and keep some rivals together?
  
  
  OSU, UM, PSU, MINN, ILL, IN, IOWA, PURDUE, MSU. WISC, NW, ND, NEB, MIZZ
  
  
  Obviously OSU, UM, and MSU have to be together so they can play every year. Now you need to balance that with 3 other decent teams (we have to expect UM to return to UM form at some point). We're going to choose PSU, NEB, and Wisconsin
  
  
  Thus far:
  
  
  OSU, UM, MSU
  
  PSU, WISC, NEB,
  
  
  
  IOWA, NORTHWESTERN, MIZZ, ND, IN, ILL, PURDUE, MINN are left.
  
  
  Now every division needs a jobber. A team that 9/10 years you'll skullfuck. Hello Indiana and Northwestern
  
  
  
  OSU, UM, MSU, INDIANA,
  
  
  PSU, WISC, NEB,NORTHWESTERN,
  
  MIZZ, ND, ILL, PURDUE, MINN, IOWA
  
  
  Now the nice thing is the remaining teams are all solid midcard/lower midcard teams. Any of these teams can go in either division but seeing how ND has played UM, MSU, and Purdue and Indiana and ND are all in Indiana...I think Purdue and ND in the top one is a no brainer. Also, MIZZ needs to stay with NEB.
  
  
  
  OSU, UM, MSU, INDIANA, ND, PURDUE, ILL
  
  
  PSU, WISC, NEB,NORTHWESTERN, MIZZ, IOWA, MINNESOTA
  
  Now one of the benefits of this setup is not only rivalries but geography. The bottom line with the exception of PSU is on the same side of the map. I know swapping PSU for ILL would make it better but then I think the top bracket is too loaded.
  
  And there we have it. A new Big 10. As a note, if they do go to 16, I think the adds ought to be PITT and Rutgers/UCONN. Just for the natural rivalry, PITT would have to go in PSU's division with the other east coast school going into OSU's.

  Looks pretty good. Unfortunately, right now, OSU would be playing in the weaker division.
• The Equalizer

  

  Yea for the next year -2-3, the only one who could upset them would be MSU.
• FatHobbit

  

  The Equalizer;384107 wrote:Yea for the next year -2-3, the only one who could upset them would be MSU.

  
  Don't tell that to Purdue last year
• jordo212000

  

  3reppom;383922 wrote:Texas has all the power in any available scenario. The Big 12 can't say "hey Texas knock it the fuck off" because that is their cash cow and the only reason why the league has remained as fiscally viable as it has been over the last few years. There is a saying in College sports that you never let the coach become bigger than the athletic director. When it comes to conferences you should never let one school be bigger than the conference lest they consume it. Texas is bigger than the Big 12. Much, much bigger.

  Yeah that was my point