OSU Recruit Jamel Turner Shot

• Tinkertrain

  Tressel took a gamble on a kid he knew was a thug but had the potential to be a incredible football player.
• KnightRyder

  

  SQ_Crazies wrote: Aren't regrets usually based on a choice that you made?
  
  I'd say someday he's going to regret it.
  
  But hey man, you have to be a special breed to make it out of Y-Town. You can get sucked into the bullshit fairly easily. Absolutely not making excuses for him, but he isn't the first and won't be the last to throw his life away in Youngstown.

  so youngstown is to blame? is that how it works? there are alot of people that make it out of youngstown and dont get sucked in to any bullshit. have you ever been to youngstown? i seriously doubt. this kid was probaly given a full ride to attend ursuline and pissed that away by not showing up for school, he went to a military academy so he could get another full ride to OSU. knowing that, he could have kept his nose clean and stayed clear of bad elements. he elected not to. i live in youngstown area and have been to the city countless time . do people get shot for nothin? yes it has happened but its a rarity. living in that area you know where to go and where not to go. this kid made a bad choice i'm sure it wasnt his first. OSU might pull the offer . but some other school will probably give him another one.
• 77Legend

  

  TheDynasty.....shut up because you wouldn't survive ONE week in Y-Town, your comments about people being shot for no reason is offensive. You must have not read the story of a few months ago when an elderly 80 year old church going lady was robbed and shot and killed in the church parking lot in YOUNGSTOWN! Yes it happens, you are so disrespectful and ignorant!
• lhslep134

  

  77Legend wrote: TheDynasty.....shut up because you wouldn't survive ONE week in Y-Town, your comments about people being shot for no reason is offensive. You must have not read the story of a few months ago when an elderly 80 year old church going lady was robbed and shot and killed in the church parking lot in YOUNGSTOWN! Yes it happens, you are so disrespectful and ignorant!

  But in terms of all the people who get shot up, the non-"put yourself in a bad situation" shootings are WAY LESS than the shootings arising from being in a bad situation.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  Holy Christ Knightryder are you kidding me?
• KnightRyder

  

  why would i kid about a player with the kind of ability he turner had getting shot?
• thedynasty1998

  

  77Legend wrote: TheDynasty.....shut up because you wouldn't survive ONE week in Y-Town, your comments about people being shot for no reason is offensive. You must have not read the story of a few months ago when an elderly 80 year old church going lady was robbed and shot and killed in the church parking lot in YOUNGSTOWN! Yes it happens, you are so disrespectful and ignorant!

  Are you serious? You are calling me ignorant? People don't just get shot. If you would have read my posts, I said that that accounts for probably 1% of all shootings. You are a fucking idiot if you really think that people just walking down the street in Youngstown are in danger of getting shot.
  
  I've been to Youngstown and been in the bad parts of Columbus (I have some rental properties in the hood), and I've never thought that just being in the neighborhood was a risk of getting shot. Could I get robbed? Sure. But just randomly shot? No way.
• thedynasty1998

  

  77Legend wrote: TheDynasty.....shut up because you wouldn't survive ONE week in Y-Town, your comments about people being shot for no reason is offensive. You must have not read the story of a few months ago when an elderly 80 year old church going lady was robbed and shot and killed in the church parking lot in YOUNGSTOWN! Yes it happens, you are so disrespectful and ignorant!

  BTW, that might be the dumbest post I've ever read on here...
• SQ_Crazies

  

  KnightRyder wrote: why would i kid about a player with the kind of ability he turner had getting shot?

  No if you honestly think I'm blaming Youngstown then you're a moron.
• KnightRyder

  

  SQ_Crazies wrote:

  KnightRyder wrote: why would i kid about a player with the kind of ability he turner had getting shot?

  No if you honestly think I'm blaming Youngstown then you're a moron.

  well damn every post its youngstown this and youngstown that. i dont care what city this kid lived in he still would have found trouble. it appears you will go to no end to defend a OSU recruit. nothing is his fault. it has to be some outside force. just face it everyone in y-town area knows this kid has been in and out of trouble. and your beloved buckeyes openly recruited him. hard to swallow that they recruited a thug. and for the record i'm sure i'm not going out on limb and not alone in thinking your IQ is way below that of a moron. my question to you is this what routine tasks are you able to do without adult supervision?
• SQ_Crazies

  

  You didn't read what I said, that's the point I'm making you jackass. You ignored 90% of what I said and flipped out about three words you wanted to string together.
• ts1227

  

  It's still Turner's fault as he made the decisions, but growing up in Youngstown kind of puts you behind the 8 ball. It's all around you.
  
  Sure, every city has good areas and bad areas, but Youngstown has a pretty damn high percentage of bad areas... this is attributed to the fact that a vast majority of people who had the means to move out of there have done so. All that's left are thugs, old people who see no point in moving now, and the few who actually found decent work in the area.
  
  Can you blame the city? No. But it sure as hell didn't help anything.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  And then there is the fact that no one blamed the city, myself included, so the whole argument is pretty pointless.
• ts1227

  

  SQ_Crazies wrote: And then there is the fact that no one blamed the city, myself included, so the whole argument is pretty pointless.

  That too, but there's nothing incorrect with saying it didn't at least contribute to the problem.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  I think there are a lot of people who are ignorant to how bad Youngstown really is.
• ytownfootball

  

  Youngstown is bad if you're an idiot. I don't live there but I work in and around the area all week long. You know where not to be at what times. Were there employment of any kind, it wouldn't be nearly as bad, but be in the wrong place at the wrong time, yes, just walking down the street and you could get capped.
  
  Turner blew his shot, so did Mo C, but the list of those who escaped is a hell of a lot longer than those who fucked up their opportunity.
• 77Legend

  

  Dynasty....comparing Columbus to Y-Town. That may be the dumbest post. Many people say they have been to Y-Town, but they refer to Boardman, Austintown, etc. Let's go. How about riding through youngstown and just because you have the wrong county plates you get shot at. Yea...been there. That was me! No riding 'dirty'. Just driving through the city.
• ytownfootball

  

  Yeah, cruise down Hillman on a hot summer evening with your Detroit lean workin' and see if you don't get checked.
• thedynasty1998

  

  You wouldn't be getting shot at for no reason. You would get shot at for the Detroit lean. In most cases there is ALWAYS a reason.
• Big Gain

  Without a high school diploma Turner isn't playing college football period. With a GED I'm betting on Cincinnati or Michigan State.
• cview

  Youngstown is a shitty place in some regards, no doubt. I lived the first 18 years of my life about a half hour (but a million miles away culturally, so I'm not acting like I "know") from Youngstown. I have plenty of friends there. But there are a ton of people that make it out of Youngstown and any pther shitty town in America. I don't give a fuck what your situation or town is; everyone has a choice to make. Knowing multiple Ursuline people as I do and them knowing Turner, him getting shot at and riding around in a car with (reportedly) guns and pills is news that will cause no surprise in the area.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  thedynasty1998 wrote: You wouldn't be getting shot at for no reason. You would get shot at for the Detroit lean. In most cases there is ALWAYS a reason.

  LMAO, ok, so I have a hypothetical. If the original article was all you had to go from, and then you found out that he was shot because he was Detroit leanin', would you say pull the scholly because he was doing something that deserved being shot for?
  
  No, you wouldn't. Exactly my point from the beginning. You don't have to be doing anything wrong to be shot in Youngstown. I'm not defending the kid, this has nothing to do with him. I'm just standing by that statement. More information came out and we found out that whether he was actually doing anything wrong or not, he hangs with the wrong people and I hope his scholarship is pulled.
• thedynasty1998

  

  My comment was directed moreso at 77legend.
  
  And first off, I don't even know what a "Detroit lean" is. But I'm assuming it's something ghetto, and if you are riding down the street in the hood and are acting hood, then shit might happen. That's not getting shot at for "no reason".
  
  The driver of the car was bad news. He served a couple years already. Now I'm not saying that the gunshots were intended for Turner, as they were probably directed at the driver. If you consider that being shot at for no reason, then fine. But I don't. He hangs out with thugs who go around with guns and you are just setting yourself up.
• centralbucksfan

  Guilty by association, period. If he had a clean record to date...then OK. But Turner has past record, on multiple occasions. He obviously never learned a lesson...and I have no doubt, he'll be in trouble again.
  I never like to make a judgement without knowing all details...but this kid just doesn't sit well with me based on everything I have read..and he still is hanging with thugs. Not good news.
• se-alum

  

  This is a pointless agrument. Obviously, you can get shot for no reason and obviously that doesn't make up a high percentage of shootings. So, both sides of the argument are correct. I think most of us figured something wasn't right about it, but was willing to give Turner the benefit of the doubt as Buckeye fans. Now that the story is unfolding, you aren't going to find anyone defending him or wanting him to be in a Buckeye uniform.