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Sectional/District Seeding Formalities

  • Gameover
    Does anyone know if the seeding format is the same at each district throughout the state? The reason I ask, is I've talked to a few coaches from different district and it seems there is different approaches to how coaches vote for the seedings.
    For example in the Central District, Coach ranks each team 1 - 25 (per se). Each ranking has a value, then the team with the highest ranking/votes gets Seed 1 and so on. I believe NorthWest District does this as well.

    In the NorthEast district (Boardman), Coaches are giving their paper and cast who they think who should be the #1 seed. They turn the votes in and counted, obviously the team with the most votes for that spot gets the seed. The sheets are then handed back out to vote for #2, turned in and counted. By doing this, doesn't this change how you vote in how the bracket is laid out to possibly avoid certain teams?

    Just curious if anyone knows more than this or if I'm way off on my assessment. I would think that it was universal in how teams are seed throughout the state. After talking to some coaches from other areas of the state, it just didn't make sense to me.
  • riders1
    Gameover wrote: Does anyone know if the seeding format is the same at each district throughout the state? The reason I ask, is I've talked to a few coaches from different district and it seems there is different approaches to how coaches vote for the seedings.
    For example in the Central District, Coach ranks each team 1 - 25 (per se). Each ranking has a value, then the team with the highest ranking/votes gets Seed 1 and so on. I believe NorthWest District does this as well.

    In the NorthEast district (Boardman), Coaches are giving their paper and cast who they think who should be the #1 seed. They turn the votes in and counted, obviously the team with the most votes for that spot gets the seed. The sheets are then handed back out to vote for #2, turned in and counted. By doing this, doesn't this change how you vote in how the bracket is laid out to possibly avoid certain teams?

    Just curious if anyone knows more than this or if I'm way off on my assessment. I would think that it was universal in how teams are seed throughout the state. After talking to some coaches from other areas of the state, it just didn't make sense to me.
    After watching the drawings at the Canton Fieldhouse, the way they do it is pass all ballots out, the coaches then vote on 1st seed, turn that ballot in , the votes are announced for each coaches choice, top vote getter is 1st seed. This repeats for all seeds, then 1st seed places themselves on the bracket wherever they want then 2 throught last seed go on with the last seed's only choice being the last open line.
  • Knite Flyer
    Game: It's a different procedure that varies by the 6 District boards.

    Hope to chat in C-bus in a few weeks.
  • Gameover
    Knite, I'll be down there.

    I would, or one would think that each district does the same thing. The old man just informed me that they do all their voting on-line, then when they go to the drawing the seedings are already counted for. Interesting stuff I guess.
  • thePITman
    I've been to the Canton Fieldhouse seedings before they seeded all teams and after they began seeding all teams, and I've also been to the DIII Wooster seeding. I have also been to a few different baseball district tournament seedings.

    It is just as you described in most places (and all places I've been to):
    -- Sheets are handed out for coaches to vote for the #1 seed, then collected, counted, and awarded (#1 seed is written on a board).
    -- Sheets are then handed out for coaches to vote on the 2nd seed, and so on, until all seeds have been written down 1 at a time.
    - - - So, if a coach votes Team A as the #1 seed but Team B gets the most votes, that coach can then, in turn, vote for Team A again as the #2 seed since that team is still an available team for which to vote.
    - - - In some districts, the person counting the votes will read the team voting and who that team voted for. No doubt, politics definitely has a part in voting. If you know certain coaches would be upset and swayed if you vote a certain way, you're almost better off (pressured into) voting a certain way to make sure YOUR team's seed isn't hurt in the process.
    -- When all seeds have been voted on and written on the board, the #1 seed has its choice of where it would like to go on the bracket (bracket slots are numbered, and the coach will just say "Slot #10"). Then the #2 seed, and so on. Most districts allow the teams to pick anywhere they want to go in the bracket; but some districts (not ours) force 1 & 4 seeds to go in the top or botton half with each other, and the 2 & 3 seeds to go with each other, but they can still pick where they want to go in those halves.
    -- If a team choses to PASS on their bracket pick, the process will continue on down the line and come back to them when the last team not to pass has picked a spot, and then it goes back through the teams that passed. This doesn't happen very often.

    Before all teams got seeded, the DII Canton district would vote on the top 4 seeds and allow them to pick where they wanted to go in the bracket. Then for the rest of the teams, each got their name put into a hat, and it was really like drawing a pill to see who were the 5-x seeds. And the process continued like previously mentioned. I believe that is how it went. I know there was a drawing out of a hat type of thing for the rest of the teams after the 4th seed. I'm not sure if they were weighted or not, as in the coaches voting for all teams, then the 5th seed getting most names in the hat and last seed getting least names in the hat... but this way of voting (NOT seeding all teams) is obsolete, now, so I don't think we have to worry about it.