public vs. private

• Hesston

  

  the debate continues but a group of Wayne County (OH) High School superintendants have taken the lead to somehow change the system and create a level playing field. Good article in Tuesdays Wooster Daily Record on their meeting with the OHSAA Zar.
  
  http://www.the-daily-record.com/news/article/4780279?utm_source=daily_headlines&utm_medium=email&utm_content=headline_link&utm_campaign=daily_headline
• RedRider1

  

  Dont know if the link shows the graphic that it did in the print version...but 77% of the respondents favored a multiplier system.
  
  Dont know that I'd make changes on less than half of the schools responding....but it's a start. If it goes on the ballot, we'll see.
  
  This was tried back in the 70's and a similar thing happened....big response for a change, but when it came down to a vote...it failed miserably.
• ross ford81

  Thanks for publishing this. However, this is NOT just an issue of public v. private. The greatest advantage when it comes to recruiting and availability of potential players comes from several of the city leagues around the state. Players in the Toledo City League for example have gone from one district to another for years no matter what grade level (sophs, jrs., srs, etc.). Except in rare cases, those in rural public and suburban public schools can't do that -- they are the ones most disadvantaged. State open enrollment rules apply to transfers prior to 9th grade, but not in the Toledo City League. I'm open to suggestions for changes/improvements, but I haven't seen any proposed that I would support over the current tournament structure.
• gamauter

  

  Of course the people who responded were 77% in favor of the change. At most schools it was tossed in the circular file. The people who responded are the ones who are always whining that life is not fair. As soon as they change this something else will come up that is not fair to their kids and needs to be changed. Kids need to learn hard lessons. There are only a few champions and they are the ones who work the hardest.
• mooseknuckle

  So getting kids from three different counties and letting them assemble their own roster is a good way to teach the kids who go to the school district they live in that there are only a few champions and those who go to the schools that can create their own rosters is the ones who work the hardest?
  
  I am not going to go all private bashing here because there are a large number of schools in this state that just recruit. However, this is the problem a lot of people don't understand. Look at Akron Saint Vincent Saint Mary, they take kids from the akron area (summit County), the Wadsworth, Medina area (Medina County), the doylestown area (Wayne County), and even down into the Canton area (stark County). That is four different counties that kids are representing just on a single teams roster where as if they were to play say Norton, those kids who go to Norton are representing just the Norton area. Somewhere a line has to be drawn to even things up, when over 70% of titles won are won by a private school, something should be done, especially in the smaller division. To me, and i know this is probably too extreme, but I would place all private schools up at least 1 division. So in other words there would be no privates in D6 in football, no privates in D4 in either basketball or baseball. To me, and again this is just my opinion, but the reason you should send your kid to a private school is for the better education, not the better athletics.
• ross ford81

  Moose: Do you discount what I wrote with respect to larger city school districts with multiple high schools? How do you make it fair for rural and suburban public schools competing against those types of schools who recruit all 4 years of high school?
• mooseknuckle

  I agree with you about the larger city schools where kids can kind of just pick where they want to go, I think that needs to change as well. Canton is probably the closest to getting this right in regards to the bigger cities, and it probably isn't even considered a big city, but the way they have the city divided up to where you go to Glenoak, South, Mckinley, Timken, and Hoover seems to workout nicely, other than Montgomery recruiting the heck out of some areas, but I do agree that something needs to be done to these large cities and their schools
• ross ford81

  Until the "big city problem" is changed, I don't think the public v. private is even worth tallking about.