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1st AP poll out

  • majorspark
    DIVISION I
    1, Cols. Northland (18) 4-0 220
    2, Warren Harding (2) 8-1 175
    3, Dublin Coffman 9-0 112
    4, N. Can. Hoover (2) 8-0 100
    5, Cin. Princeton (1) 7-1 96
    6, Mentor (1) 9-0 86
    7, Cle. St. Ignatius 7-0 79
    8, Cin. La Salle 7-1 57
    T9, Cin. Moeller 9-1 50
    T9, Tol. Cent. Cath. 7-0 50


    Others receiving 12 or more points: 11, Gahanna Lincoln 46. 12, Westerville S. 44. 13, Mansfield Sr. 38. 14, Massillon Jackson 29. 15, Westerville N. (1) 28. 16, Lakewood St. Edward 23. 17, Can. Timken (1) 22. 18, Huber Hts. Wayne 20. 18, Perrysburg 20. 20, Tol. St. John's 18. 21, Upper Arlington 17.

    DIVISION II
    1, Day. Dunbar (12) 9-0 192
    2, Akr. SVSM (4) 6-3 109
    3, Cols. DeSales 8-2 104
    4, Cle. Benedictine (1) 7-2 102
    5, Day. Chaminade-Julienne 8-1 88
    T6, Poland Seminary (1) 6-0 78
    T6, Tol. Libbey (1) 5-2 78
    8, Akr. Buchtel (1) 7-0 75
    9, Defiance (1) 7-0 74
    10, Circleville Logan Elm (1) 6-0 60


    Others receiving 12 or more points: 11, Cols. Bexley (3) 57. 12, Port Clinton 50. 13, Middletown Fenwick 47. 14, Cols. Watterson 45. 15, Day. Thurgood Marshall 34. 15, St. Paris Graham 34. 17, Louisville 28. 18, Hunting Valley University (1) 23. 19, Wilmington 21. 20, Cin. Indian Hill 20. 21, Dover 17.

    DIVISION III
    1, Findlay Liberty-Benton (15) 10-0 215
    2, Cin. Taft (6) 8-1 163
    3, Middletown Madison (2) 9-0 153
    4, Coldwater (1) 7-0 123
    5, Wooster Triway 8-2 122
    6, St. Henry 6-2 101
    7, E. Can. 7-0 89
    8, Plymouth 8-0 52
    9, Cols. Grandview Hts. 6-2 47
    10, Hamilton Badin (1) 6-3 43


    Others receiving 12 or more points: 11, Cardington-Lincoln 37. 12, Oak Hill (1) 35. 13, Ottawa-Glandorf 21. 14, Cols. Ready 20. 15, Jamestown Greeneview 19. 16, Cle. VASJ 14. 17, Cols. Hartley 13. 17, Marion Elgin 13. 17, Metamora Evergreen 13. 20, Smithville 12. 20, Orrville 12.

    DIVISION IV
    1, Newark Cath. (12) 7-0 202
    2, Continental (2) 9-0 134
    3, S. Charleston SE (4) 9-0 128
    T4, Miller City 7-1 91
    T4, Russia 7-2 91
    6, McDonald (1) 7-0 90
    7, Day. Jefferson (2) 6-1 87
    8, McComb 8-0 70
    9, Tol. Ottawa Hills (1) 8-0 52
    10, Racine Southern 4-0 46


    Others receiving 12 or more points: 11, Cin. Seven Hills 42. 12, Pandora-Gilboa 39. 13, Ft. Recovery 38. 14, Berlin Hiland (1) 35. 15, Canal Winchester Harvest Prep 33. 16, Malvern 32. 17, Yellow Springs 28. 18, Kalida 27. 19, Columbus Grove 26. 19, Youngs. Christian (1) 26. 21, Cle. Hts. Lutheran E. (1) 20. 22, Shadyside (1) 19.
  • riders1
    DIVISION III
    1, Findlay Liberty-Benton (15) 10-0 215
    2, Cin. Taft (6) 8-1 163
    3, Middletown Madison (2) 9-0 153
    4, Coldwater (1) 7-0 123
    5, Wooster Triway 8-2 122
    6, St. Henry 6-2 101
    7, E. Can. 7-0 89
    8, Plymouth 8-0 52
    9, Cols. Grandview Hts. 6-2 47
    10, Hamilton Badin (1) 6-3 43


    Others receiving 12 or more points: 11, Cardington-Lincoln 37. 12, Oak Hill (1) 35. 13, Ottawa-Glandorf 21. 14, Cols. Ready 20. 15, Jamestown Greeneview 19. 16, Cle. VASJ 14. 17, Cols. Hartley 13. 17, Marion Elgin 13. 17, Metamora Evergreen 13. 20, Smithville 12. 20, Orrville 12.

    DIVISION IV
    1, Newark Cath. (12) 7-0 202
    2, Continental (2) 9-0 134
    3, S. Charleston SE (4) 9-0 128
    T4, Miller City 7-1 91
    T4, Russia 7-2 91
    6, McDonald (1) 7-0 90
    7, Day. Jefferson (2) 6-1 87
    8, McComb 8-0 70
    9, Tol. Ottawa Hills (1) 8-0 52
    10, Racine Southern 4-0 46


    Others receiving 12 or more points: 11, Cin. Seven Hills 42. 12, Pandora-Gilboa 39. 13, Ft. Recovery 38. 14, Berlin Hiland (1) 35. 15, Canal Winchester Harvest Prep 33. 16, Malvern 32. 17, Yellow Springs 28. 18, Kalida 27. 19, Columbus Grove 26. 19, Youngs. Christian (1) 26. 21, Cle. Hts. Lutheran E. (1) 20. 22, Shadyside (1) 19.
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    Loooking at d3 , seems like triway way to high at 5th and Hiland at 14th under appreciated in d4.
  • wes_mantooth
    Weird that Hiland(D4) beat Triway(D3) yet Triway is rated 5th.
  • thechosenone
    How does Northland have that many points that fast?
  • zhon44622
    wes_mantooth wrote: Weird that Hiland(D4) beat Triway(D3) yet Triway is rated 5th.
    I doubt that "The Budget" gets any votes in the AP poll.

    (Amish newspaper for those not familiar)
  • majorspark
    zhon44622 wrote:
    wes_mantooth wrote: Weird that Hiland(D4) beat Triway(D3) yet Triway is rated 5th.
    I doubt that "The Budget" gets any votes in the AP poll.

    (Amish newspaper for those not familiar)
    Its pronounced "Die Budchet" (for those not familiar).
  • ricola
    wes_mantooth wrote: Weird that Hiland(D4) beat Triway(D3) yet Triway is rated 5th.
    I noticed that as well. Don't have a problem with Hiland's ranking; we haven't played like a top ten team. Hopefully we can get there by the end of the year when it matters.
    But if Triway is rated 5 in D3, and Hiland beat them by 19 in the Pit, kinda tells you there's a litle problem with the validity of the rankings. Which for the most part is common knowledge and not all that surprising I guess. (It does make one wonder why some schools have large banners up celebrating their #1 poll ranking tho...)
  • Sparky
    Rankings this early in the season are a result of who does the best work of public relations. Those of the news media who have a vote, PR the better teams in their area to the other media voters. I was once one of those voters.
    From the look of the first vote, a lot of "Name" schools are in the mix. There will be substantial changes in the next three to four weeks.
    As the season continues to flow, media members will look at scores throughout the state on a more consistent basis to help with their selections.
    PR work creates more interest. Either you agree or disgree. But in the end, the tournament will eventually decide who is No. 1.
  • Sparky
    This Northland team has been the "talk of the state" since the end of last year, and the "talk of the country" since they beat the top-ranked team in the nation on TV about one month ago.
  • Swamp Fox
    Toledo Central Catholic has a really nice team concept. They can play the game the right way. I have the utmost respect for their coach.
  • North/Side
    thechosenone wrote: How does Northland have that many points that fast?
    I'm more wondering why they don't have every first place vote. They've already proven on a national level that they are one of the best in the nation. In fact Northland is the #1 team in the nation right now.
  • vball10set
    actually,they're #2...

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/preps/basketball/poll/2009-10-super25m.htm
  • sports_talk
    waht would you expect from people who vote that can't get out to see the team live. They can only go on reputation. Polls sell papers but the tourney is where you want to be! hey baby it all happens at tourney time. Best time of the year.
  • Gymshoe
    Dover didn't get any love in DII either. Hiland should be a top 5 team in DIV. Both are unbeaten and both have a state-wide reputation.
  • justcompete
    Northland is on ESPN again on Jan.16 if you want to see them.
  • Ollie Williams
    How is Toledo St. John's ranked behind St. Ed's, when SJJ has already beat them this year.
  • thePITman
    In DIV, #14 Hiland (1 vote for #1) will finish in the top 10, guaranteed! Probably top 5. They are a very, very good team with very good talent and a great coach. Look out for the Hawks from Berlin!

    I am a die-hard Triway fan but agree that we are not DIII #5 material. We have some good talent and a great coach and tradition, and we normally are playing our best ball when the tournament comes around. But the way we played our first 10 games, we were not deserving of a top 10 rating. That could change, though, depending on how we finish up the season.
  • wes_mantooth
    I have a question for Wooster area huddlers. I though Smithville had almost everyone back from an undefeated(regular season) team? If so, I am kind of surprised they are not in the top 10.
  • thePITman
    wes_mantooth wrote: I have a question for Wooster area huddlers. I though Smithville had almost everyone back from an undefeated(regular season) team? If so, I am kind of surprised they are not in the top 10.
    No, they did not have everyone back. They lost DIII POY Kenny Kornowski, All-Ohio Tyler Bates, and athletic Beau Carpenter. All Smithville has this year are Derek Orr and Corey Caldwell, with little Bates running the show at the point. When Frizell gets back from his injury, it will open things up a little more... but they're not close to the team they were last year, IMO.
  • wes_mantooth
    ^^^ok, that makes sense. I thought I read on the old huddle that they had everyone back.
  • North/Side
    Their ranking varies in the many different polls across the country. I was going off the national poll printed by the Columbus Dispatch (PrepNation) which has had them at #1 since they beat Findlay.

    http://prepnation.com/poll/poll.cfm?poll=2&latest=1
  • Sparky
    I see Newark Catholic is No.1 in DIV. I know they have tradition in football and baseball.
    So, what do they have on the hardwood? Do they have any big games coming up on their schedule? Somebody said they almost made the state tournament a year ago.
  • xnds1fan
    Sparky NC lost to the state champions in a very close game last year in the regional finals. They have 6 seniors, 4 of them have been playing varsity since they were freshmen.

    Here's a link for their schedule. http://www.newarkcatholic.org/Athletics/viewSchedule.asp?SpID=6
  • Riderwannabe
    the poll is a joke
  • TolCentralCath
    Swamp Fox wrote: Toledo Central Catholic has a really nice team concept. They can play the game the right way. I have the utmost respect for their coach.
    TCC is very fortunate to have Coach Welling as their head coach. He's an excellent coach who really understands the game.