What's up with Salem?

• sportsforlife

  When was the last time the Salem Girls basketball program had zero points in the first quarter?
• QuakerOats

  Not looking good. I know they had a recent injury which will hurt, and of course a couple kids did not go out that could have helped, but the post-Scullion era looks to be rougher than imagined. Hopefully they get it turned around again in the years ahead.
• sportsforlife

  Oats - I don't know how long you have been around Salem Girls basketball - but the tradition for winning was established over 30 years ago - Salem has graduated many "Scullion" type athletes over the years - the key is for the coach to figure out what talent is there and working with that talent in regards to game strategies.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  ^Wrong, wrong, wrong.
  
  Salem has never graduated an athlete anywhere near the level of Amy Scullion. Some good talent pretty much year in and year out, certainly. But nothing like Amy.
  
  A lot of people want to blame the new coach--here is the bottom line, the talent pool has been drying up for the last couple years. Amy held the program above water by herself. Some girls didn't go out, arguably the best player on the team is out and the talent is just not good enough to hold onto the winning tradition. When you don't have the horses you don't have the horses, that's all it is. Talent comes and goes in waves at every school in every sport, it'll come back someday--but you might be looking at a Salem program that is down for 5 years or more. Could only be 2-3 years, could be good next year. It's hard to say, but it's all about talent--they don't have enough of it. That's what it always comes down to in high school when a team isn't good whether people want to come out and say that or not.
• QuakerOats

  ^^ pretty true. The good news is that a lot of young kids are getting a lot of minutes and some great experience that should translate into better days ahead. They all just need to hang in there.
  
  Go Quakers !!
• tribepronk41

  Totally agree
• ts1227

  

  The cupboard is bare for the first time in a LONG time. It's that simple, in my opinion.
• sportsforlife

  SQ_Crazies;670562 wrote:^Wrong, wrong, wrong.
  
  Salem has never graduated an athlete anywhere near the level of Amy Scullion. Some good talent pretty much year in and year out, certainly. But nothing like Amy.
  
  A lot of people want to blame the new coach--here is the bottom line, the talent pool has been drying up for the last couple years. Amy held the program above water by herself. Some girls didn't go out, arguably the best player on the team is out and the talent is just not good enough to hold onto the winning tradition. When you don't have the horses you don't have the horses, that's all it is. Talent comes and goes in waves at every school in every sport, it'll come back someday--but you might be looking at a Salem program that is down for 5 years or more. Could only be 2-3 years, could be good next year. It's hard to say, but it's all about talent--they don't have enough of it. That's what it always comes down to in high school when a team isn't good whether people want to come out and say that or not.

  
  SQ - sorry I am not Wrong Wrong Wrong - if you are open minded I can give you stats and athletic ability on a player from the two back to back regional finals teams that is "anywhere near" the talent level just from a different era.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  Go for it.
  
  I could ask anyone who knows anything and the would agree with me, therefore you clearly don't know anything. It's not even close, and Salem has had some good talent.
• sportsforlife

  SQ_Crazies;673995 wrote:Go for it.
  
  I could ask anyone who knows anything and the would agree with me, therefore you clearly don't know anything. It's not even close, and Salem has had some good talent.

  That's how I figured you would reply - however - I do know - I have been around Salem Girls Basketball from the 70's on - and I do know - these two players, although different in stature - different era - different opportunities for continuing their careers - different ball - no three point line versus a three point line, etc - ... athletically gifted and talented = both = a coach's dream. But you can't compare b/c you never witnessed both of them play basketball - however - my good fortune - I had the opportunity to watch both of them play...
• SQ_Crazies

  

  Ok...
• ts1227

  

  Awesome, the typical "I'm old, so therefore I'm right" argument. A Salem staple.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  Still waiting on the name of the girl who was as good as Amy Scullion. I could use some comedy on my Sunday, so hurry up.
• sportsforlife

  ts - not my message at all - - just trying share some insight b/c I was fortunate to see both play basketball - the "ok" from SQ - I knew was sarcasm -
  SQ - next time you are at the high school - check the record boards - you will see her name in front of 496 points in a season and 19.1 ppg as numbers that still stand.
  Both - great athletes who have graduated from Salem... wish I had films that you could watch her play - very comparable to Amy on the court - but I can't prove it to you - I can just share my opinion - as you can share yours - hope you got your comedy fix....
• SQ_Crazies

  

  Don't make me do the work, post the name.
  
  You're completely wrong. I respect the past of Salem girls basketball, there have been quite a few very good players. But you are dead wrong, no one that has walked those hallways was anywhere near Amy's stature. She's playing at Ohio State for a reason. PPG don't mean a lot to me, anyone who knows anything knows that Amy could have scored 20-25 PPG her junior and senior years if she wanted to. But she isn't that kind of player.