East Central Ohio League 2010/2011
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WooballWith ECOL play kicking off this week, who is the favorite to win the league?
I was able to see Dover open up the season at home against Buckeye Local on Friday night and they won convincingly. Played better than I had expected considering a majority of their players were with the football team until late November. Monaco is going to have a great year. Appears to be stronger and quicker than last year. He had 33 in about 2.5 quarters of play. If healthy, he will probably win POY. They pushed the ball and used some half court traps more on Friday than I had seen in a while, which got some lay ups and and open looks for other guys, especially Zahner. It will be interesting to see if they continue to play this way when league play opens up.
New Philadelphia, Coshocton and Meadowbrook all opened up with wins, while Claymont, River View and Cambridge dropped their openers. I expect Dover, Coshocton and New Phila to be at the top of the conference at the end of the year. The Redskins travel to Dover this Friday. The winner will have an early advantage for the league title. -
GblockCambridge doesnt have a lot of talent, but i love the fact that their new coaching staff is trying to return to some of the old traditions from the coach ford days. I know he has invited old players to come in and play against and mentor the team and talk about what it takes to go to the state tournament. Not a knock against the last coach, but he really didnt involve the community and allow the town to rally around the team very well. I think from the Jr high on up they have good coaches who know how to win and know how to put some fun back in camb bball.... that being said i have seen them and they arent very good right now talent wise, so it could be a year or two before they challenge for the ECOL.
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WooballScores from the ECOL last night:
Dover 57
Claymont 21
Zahner 18, Monaco 8
New Philadelphia 70
Marietta 79
Double OT - Kimble 25, Bazzoli 22
Coshocton 62
River View 44
Taylor led Coshocton with 31
Cambridge 59
Meadowbrook 44
I didn't see any notes from the Daily-Jeff. Maybe GBlock could update on this game?
Early Standings (league record)
Dover 2-0 (1-0)
Coshocton 2-0 (1-0)
Cambridge 1-1 (1-0)
New Philadelphia 1-1 (0-0)
Meadowbrook 1-1 (0-1)
Claymont 0-2 (0-1)
River View 0-2 (0-1)
On a side note, if Marietta would be starting league play this year, they would be 2-0 with wins over Cambridge and New Phila. -
hhawksdoes anyone have the schedules for the ecol teams i'd like to have them
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WooballDover Tornadoes
Friday, December 3 Buckeye Local Home 6 PM
Yuesday, December 7 Claymont Home 6 PM
Friday, December 10 Coshocton Home 6 PM
Saturday, December 11 Vinton County Convo(OU) 9:15 PM
Monday, December 13 Orrville (JV) Away 6 PM
Friday, December 17 Cambridge Away 6 PM
Tuesday, December 21 Wooster Away 6 PM
Tueday, December 28 Max Hayes Home 6 PM
Tuesday, January 4 Fairless Home 6 PM
Friday, January 7 Meadowbrook Away 6 PM
Tuesday, January 11 Riverview Home 6 PM
Friday, January 14 New Philadelphia Away 6 PM
Saturday, January 15 Hoover (JV) Away 12 PM
Sunday, January 16 Pickerington North Hoover Classic 4 PM
Friday, Jauuary. 21 Claymont Away 6 PM
Tuesday, January 25 Coshocton Away 6 PM
Friday, January 28 Cambridge Home 6 PM
Saturday, January 29 John Adams Home 6 PM
Saturday, February 5 John Glenn Away 6 PM
Friday, February 11 Meadowbrook home 6 PM
Tuesday, February 15 Riverview Away 6 PM
Friday, February 18 New Philadelphia Home 6 PM
New Philadelphia Quakers
Fri Dec 3 Max Hayes HOME 7:30pm
Tue Dec 7 Marietta HOME 7:30pm
Fri Dec 10 Claymont Away 7:30pm
Tue Dec 14 West Holmes Away 7:30pm
Fri Dec 17 Meadowbrook HOME 7:30pm
Tue Dec 21 Coshocton Away 7:30pm
Thu Dec 23 Louisville HOME 7:30pm
Thu Dec 30 Massillon HOME 7:30pm
Tue Jan 4 Canton CC HOME 7:30pm
Fri Jan 7 River View Home 7:30pm
Tue Jan 11 Cambridge Away 7:30pm
Fri Jan 14 Dover HOME 7:30pm
Tue Jan 18 St. Thomas Away 7:30pm
Tue Jan 25 Claymont HOME 7:30pm
Fri Jan 28 Meadowbrook Away 7:30pm
Fri Feb 4 Coshocton HOME 7:30pm
Tue Feb 8 Carrollton Away 7:30pm
Fri Feb 11 River View Away 7:30pm
Tue Feb 15 Cambridge Home 7:30pm
Fri Feb 18 Dover Away 7:30pm
Claymont Mustangs
Friday, December 3 Carrollton Home 6:00
Tuesday, December 7 Dover Away 6:00
Friday, December 10 New Philadelphia Home 6:00
Saturday, December 11 Philo Away 6:00
Tuesday, December 14 Indian Valley Home 6:00
Friday, December 17 Coshocton Away 6:00
Tuesday, December 21 Cambridge Home 6:00
Thursday, December 30 Ridgewood Home 6:00
Friday, January 7 Rosecrans Away 6:00
Tuesday, January 11 Meadowbrook Home 6:00
Friday, January 14 River View Away 6:00
Tuesday, January 18 Tusky Valley Away: *6:00
Friday, January 21 Dover Home 6:00
Saturday, January 22 Minerva Home 6:00
Tuesday, January 25 New Philadelphia Away 6:00
Friday, January 28 Coshocton Home 6:00
Friday, February 4 Cambridge Away 6:00
Friday, February 11 Rosecrans Home 6:00
Tuesday, February 15 Meadowbrook Away 6:00
Friday, February 18 River View Home 6:00 -
Wooballcan't find the rest of the schedules, although you can probably get them at www.maxpreps.com
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WooballCoshocton Redskins
Dec 3 East Knox
Dec. 7 River View
Dec. 10 at Dover
Dec. 11 Zanesville
Dec. 17 Claymont
Dec. 21 New Philadelphia
Dec. 29 at Philo
Jan. 4 at Licking Valley
Jan. 7 at Cambridge
Jan. 11 Ridgewood
Jan. 14 at Meadowbrook
Jan. 16 vs. Northwest in Mercy
Medical Center Classic
Jan. 21 at River View
Jan. 22 Carrollton
Jan. 25 Dover
Jan. 28 at Claymont
Feb. 4 at New Philadelphia
Feb. 11 Cambridge
Feb. 15 Sheridan
Feb. 18 Meadowbrook
River View Black Bears
Dec 4 Harrison Central
Dec. 7 at Coshocton
Dec. 10 Cambridge
Dec. 14 at Rosecrans
Dec. 17 at Zanesville
Dec. 21 Meadowbrook
Dec. 28 at Ridgewood
Jan. 4 West Holmes
Jan. 7 at New Philadelphia
Jan. 11 at Dover
Jan. 14 Claymont
Jan. 18 Utica
Jan. 21 Coshocton
Jan. 22 Philo
Jan. 25 at Cambridge
Jan. 28 Zanesville
Feb. 4 at Meadowbrook
Feb. 11 New Philadelphia
Feb. 15 Dover
Feb. 18 at Claymont
Still haven't found the Guernsey County schools -
equusMeadowbrook Colts
Friday, Dec. 3 - Philo (H) Win 35-33
Tuesday, Dec. 7 - Cambridge (H) Loss
Tuesday, Dec. 14 - John Glenn (H)
Friday, Dec. 17 - New Philadelphia (A)
Tuesday, Dec. 21 - River View (A)
Thursday, Dec. 23 - Buckeye Trail (H)
Tuesday, Dec. 28 - Barnesville (H)
Thursday, Dec. 30 - Conotton Valley (A)
Tuesday, Jan. 4 - Shenandoah (H)
Friday, Jan. 7 - Dover (H)
Tuesday, Jan. 11 - Claymont (A)
Friday, Jan. 14 - Coshocton (H)
Tuesday, Jan. 18 - Buckeye Trail (A)
Friday, Jan. 21 - Cambridge (A)
Tuesday, Jan. 25 - Marietta (A)
Friday, Jan. 28 - New Philadelphia (H)
Friday, Feb. 4 - River View (H)
Friday, Feb. 11 - Dover (A)
Tuesday, Feb. 15 - Claymont (H)
Friday, Feb, 18 - Coshocton (A) -
WooballThanks equus - If anyone is interested for Cambridge, you can at least figure out all of their ECOL games with all the other teams schedules.
Friday Scores
Coshocton 41
Dover 38
Big early season win for the 'skins, especially on the road at Dover. They get the early advantage for the league title.
New Philadelphia 50
Claymont 39
Cambridge 68
River View 31
Saturday Scores
Dover 58
Vinton Coutny 51
At Ohio University
Philo 58
Claymont 49
Zanesville 65
Coshocton 37
Standings
Coschoton 3-1 (2-0)
Cambridge 2-1 (2-0)
New Philadelphia 2-1 (1-0)
Dover 3-1 (1-1)
Meadowbrook 1-1 (0-1)
River View 0-3 (0-2)
Claymont 0-4 (0-2) -
equusYou are welcome, Wooball. I could do the Cambridge schedule , but I thought that with all their traditions returning, they would want to do it themselves!
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WooballScores from Tuesday 12/14
Indian Valley 49
Claymont 40
Claymont falls to 0-5
New Philadelphia 57
West Holmes 50
The Quakers improve their mark to 3-1. They were led by Logan Kimble w/ 17 points
Zanesville Rosecrans 68
River View 19
Tough start continues for Black Bears as they fall to 0-4
John Glenn 58
Meadowbrook 39
The Muskies drop the Colts a game below .500 to 1-2
Coshocton and Dover were idle on Tuesday. According the schedule I pulled off their website, the Tornadoes don't play again until the 21st @ Wooster. I also only have them down for 19 games. Does anyone know if that schedule is missing a contest?
Edit: Looks like I am missing a game against Cambridge, but since I don't have their schedule, I am not sure when Dover travels to take on the Bobcats, but if I had to guess it will be this Friday the 17th. No one else in the league plays Cambridge that day. -
Gblockequus;601455 wrote:You are welcome, Wooball. I could do the Cambridge schedule , but I thought that with all their traditions returning, they would want to do it themselves!
funny eqquis dont be salty cause they beat meadowbrook....lol i graduated from meadowbrook btw....but my dad is coaching 7th grade for cambridge so i can try to get some info....but i live in columbus so its hard for me to get a lot of data....im not sure if there are any people from cambridge on OC....i know they at one time were strong on JJ... -
equusGblock;601633 wrote:funny eqquis dont be salty cause they beat meadowbrook....lol i graduated from meadowbrook btw....but my dad is coaching 7th grade for cambridge so i can try to get some info....but i live in columbus so its hard for me to get a lot of data....im not sure if there are any people from cambridge on OC....i know they at one time were strong on JJ...
Gblock, if you know me (from either the old site, or life outside these boards) you'll know I'm nothing if not complementary towards all teams. Was just making a joke. Wasn't being salty at all about the loss, I recognize it for what it is.
Watched your dad coach tonight, my great-nephew plays for Zanesville, and he did his usual exemplary job in working with those young kids. Still wish he was at MHS... -
Gblock
yes i was also making a jokeequus;602721 wrote:Gblock, if you know me (from either the old site, or life outside these boards) you'll know I'm nothing if not complementary towards all teams. Was just making a joke. Wasn't being salty at all about the loss, I recognize it for what it is.
Watched your dad coach tonight, my great-nephew plays for Zanesville, and he did his usual exemplary job in working with those young kids. Still wish he was at MHS... -
equusHere you go, Wooball. Thought some of the Cambridge posters would come on and post their schedule, but only GBlock came on, and he lives away. So I thought that, just like their school district, they need a Colt to organize them and make them run better, so I decided to post it. (I'm kidding, Bobcat fans. ) I remember the old days when Cambridge had a bunch of proud posters and before this rivalry game there was a lot of talking. (Come to think of it, that applies to MHS as well.) Seems they all jumped off the ship a few years back and none have found their way back on. And that really is a shame. For the CHS-MHS game at MHS, there was a lot of empty seats. I remember just a few years ago you had to get there at 5:30 just to get a seat. Oh well, times change, I guess.
Anyway, here is Cambridges schedule, taken directly from the Daily Jeffersonian. Why they have 21 games I do not know.
Cambridge Bobcats
Tuesday, Nov. 30 - St. Clairsville (A)
Friday, Dec. 3 - Marietta (H)
Tuesday, Dec. 7 - Meadowbrook (A)
Friday, Dec. 10 - River View (A)
Friday, Dec. 17 - Dover (H)
Saturday, Dec. 18 - Zanesville (A)
Tuesday, Dec. 21 - Claymont (A)
Thursday, Dec. 23 - Shenandoah (A)
Tuesday, Dec. 28 - John Glenn (A)
Tuesday, Jan. 4 - Buckeye Trail (A)
Friday, Jan. 7 - Coshocton (H)
Tuesday, Jan. 11 - New Philadelphia (H)
Friday, Jan. 14 - Marietta (A)
Friday, Jan. 21 - Meadowbrook (H)
Tuesday, Jan. 25 - River View (H)
Friday, Jan. 28 - Dover (A)
Tuesday, Feb. 1 - Zanesville (H)
Friday, Feb. 4 - Claymont (H)
Friday, Feb. 11 - Coshocton (A)
Tuesday, Feb. 15 - New Philadelphia (A)
Friday, Feb. 18 - Buckeye Trail (H) -
WooballThanks,
I couldn't find it on that website. I too remember when either the Bobcats would come to Dover, or when we would travel to Cambridge, you had to get there very early to get a seat. But, pretty much since Gene left, that hasn't been the case. It is unfortunate that there are not any of their posters over here, they used to have some good ones that would make this season a little more exciting on the old board.
Also, there were a few years during the early 2000's when the Dover v Meadowbrook games were also packed houses. For the most part, it seems attendance is down for basketball in the eastern district (at least for ECOL schools.) -
WooballScores from Friday 12/17
Dover 48
Cambridge 45
New Philadelphia 67
Meadowbrook 44
Coshocton 55
Claymont 34
Zanesville 59
River View 31
From Saturday 12/18
Zanesville 43
Cambridge 36
Cambridge lost 2 tight ones to 2 of the better teams in the Eastern District (Zanesville is probably the best). Rough 4th quarters in both games cost them W's. Coshocton and New Phila remain unbeaten in league play while Dover and Cambridge have 1 league loss.
Marietta and Zanesville, who will be entering the ECOL next season, are unbeaten against current league teams. -
majorsparkWhy does Dover and New Phila for that matter schedule Cleveland Max Hayes? How does this make them better? The annual trouncing? Grow a pair and take a trip 15 miles down the road and take on Garaway. Or go another 10 miles and take on Hiland. Or host either one. Why be scared to take on a smaller school? Big time savings in fuel costs and you will sell a heck of a lot more tickets. Look at the picture in the article. Its a ghost town in the Dover gym. Host either one of these teams and your gym is nearly packed.
http://www.timesreporter.com/sports/highschool/x1471489250/Dover-routs-Max-Hayes -
Wooballmajorspark;616515 wrote:Why does Dover and New Phila for that matter schedule Cleveland Max Hayes? How does this make them better? The annual trouncing? Grow a pair and take a trip 15 miles down the road and take on Garaway. Or go another 10 miles and take on Hiland. Or host either one. Why be scared to take on a smaller school? Big time savings in fuel costs and you will sell a heck of a lot more tickets. Look at the picture in the article. Its a ghost town in the Dover gym. Host either one of these teams and your gym is nearly packed.
http://www.timesreporter.com/sports/highschool/x1471489250/Dover-routs-Max-Hayes
Would Hiland or Garaway agree to play at Dover or New Phila every year? I'm sure the answer to that question is no. So if you want them to play, you will need to convince the schools to play the amishmen every year instead of someone like John Glenn, Louisville, etc that is on both teams schedules that they play home and homes with. Also, if you read the article, BVK answers as to why they play Max Hayes. -
majorspark
They may be willing to do just do that. Especially at New Phila since both teams tourney trail runs through Phila's gym. A little added experience playing on that floor would be a plus. No need to give up John Glenn or Louisville. Just Max Hayes. And yes I read the article and coach BVK reasoning. Basically it is a guaranteed win or some type of glorified practice where the deep bench gets a lot of minutes.Wooball;616636 wrote:Would Hiland or Garaway agree to play at Dover or New Phila every year? I'm sure the answer to that question is no. So if you want them to play, you will need to convince the schools to play the amishmen every year instead of someone like John Glenn, Louisville, etc that is on both teams schedules that they play home and homes with. Also, if you read the article, BVK answers as to why they play Max Hayes. -
Wooballmajorspark;617255 wrote:They may be willing to do just do that. Especially at New Phila since both teams tourney trail runs through Phila's gym. A little added experience playing on that floor would be a plus. No need to give up John Glenn or Louisville. Just Max Hayes. And yes I read the article and coach BVK reasoning. Basically it is a guaranteed win or some type of glorified practice where the deep bench gets a lot of minutes.
I find it hard to believe that Hiland or Garaway would be willing to play at Dover or Phila (although more likely) every year. Also, Hiland seems to play 2 of their 4 non conference games in a holiday tournament. Their other 2 historically have been against West Holmes and Triway. I don't disagree with you that they would be good games for the teams and the communities, but I would be surprised to see them play. -
ricolaWhy wouldn't Hiland play these guys? They've played home and homes with Dunbar& Benedictine the last 5 years or so. Tho this was the first year for their holiday tournament; if that is a yearly staple that would be 2 other games. But wouldn't be surprised to see Hiland do this; a home and home series at least for a couple years to see how it goes. With Conotton Valley being out of the league, there will be a couple extra games to schedule, at least if/until the IVC picks up another team. Hiland would prefer the better competition, and I think could compete with either of these 2 ECOL schools. Could see Garaway doing the same thing.
Can't believe that the Max Hayes game does anything to make Dover or New Phila better. -
Wooballricola;618486 wrote:Why wouldn't Hiland play these guys? They've played home and homes with Dunbar& Benedictine the last 5 years or so. Tho this was the first year for their holiday tournament; if that is a yearly staple that would be 2 other games. But wouldn't be surprised to see Hiland do this; a home and home series at least for a couple years to see how it goes. With Conotton Valley being out of the league, there will be a couple extra games to schedule, at least if/until the IVC picks up another team. Hiland would prefer the better competition, and I think could compete with either of these 2 ECOL schools. Could see Garaway doing the same thing.
Can't believe that the Max Hayes game does anything to make Dover or New Phila better.
I didn't say they wouldn't play them, I was saying they wouldn't be willing to go on the road every year, with no return home game. I had forgotten that the Rockets were getting out of the IVC, so that would open up 2 dates. Still, I would be surprised if these 4 teams would play each other.
Although it would be pretty cool if the 4 would hold their own "tournament" every year. It could be held over 2 nights. Dover v Hiland & Phila v Garaway on night 1. The next night you could flip the match-ups between the ECOL and IVC. Rotate the event between the 4 schools every year. Would probably be a pretty good gate for the schools. But, the odds of that happening would be very slim. -
ricolaWooball;618492 wrote:I didn't say they wouldn't play them, I was saying they wouldn't be willing to go on the road every year, with no return home game. I had forgotten that the Rockets were getting out of the IVC, so that would open up 2 dates. Still, I would be surprised if these 4 teams would play each other.
Although it would be pretty cool if the 4 would hold their own "tournament" every year. It could be held over 2 nights. Dover v Hiland & Phila v Garaway on night 1. The next night you could flip the match-ups between the ECOL and IVC. Rotate the event between the 4 schools every year. Would probably be a pretty good gate for the schools. But, the odds of that happening would be very slim.
I wouldn't want to play an away game without a home game either, but if you do a home and home every other year, it's fair for everybody.I like that last idea, tho doubt as well it would happen.( Would take too much cooperation between schools that don't like each other all that much!) That would be fun to watch, and you'd be guaranteed to have a packed gym each night! -
GblockI went to the Cambridge and Coshocton game on Friday. Tried to get there in time to watch the dedication of the gym to coach ford but with the weather it took us two hours to get to the game from columbus. I heard it was really funny tho. As far as the game goes it was very ugly. neither team was very good and cambridge's outside shooting is Woeful. They did play hard Defense and pressed very well. Coshocton was winning most of the game and had an 11 point lead with about 3 minutes and change and basically never scored another point the rest of the game and cambridge wins a nailbiter.