Spinoff: How long until someone is considered to be "American"?

• UA5straightin2008

  

  I am 25% italian, 25% slovakian, 25% english, and 25% scotch-irish...so say the woman i marry and have kids with is 25 25 25 25 of whatever, that means my kids will be 1/8, 1/8. 1/8, etc. How long until everyone is so diluted that they will just be considered American?
• RelsonGracieBJJ

  

  better have a lot of kids lol.
• 2kool4skool

  

  If your grandparents were born and raised in America, you're an America. I never get these people who take a ton of pride in being Irish/Italian when they've never even met someone who's BEEN to Ireland/Italy.
• RelsonGracieBJJ

  

  no different then people claiming to be African American when they have NEVER been to Africa
• 2kool4skool

  

  RelsonGracieBJJ wrote: no different then people claiming to be African American when they have NEVER been to Africa

  African American has essentially become a substitute word for skin color, not much to do with heritage, and I've never seen a black person taking a ton of pride in their African heritage, more so the history of their people in the United States.
  
  They were persecuted in this country pretty badly not 50 years ago, I'm not going to whine about them using whatever name they want.
• RelsonGracieBJJ

  

  I am not whining.. I think that people are all human as should be treated as such..
• majorspark

  

  RelsonGracieBJJ wrote: I am not whining.. I think that people are all human as should be treated as such..

  I agree.
• sonofsam

  

  RelsonGracieBJJ wrote: no different then people claiming to be African American when they have NEVER been to Africa

  THIS^^ Absolute perfect response.
• I Wear Pants

  I are dumd.
• Ghmothwdwhso

  I Wear Pants wrote: Race/ethnic/religious/sexual orientation/whatever "pride" only leads to discrimination and violence. If people would just learn to be who they are and not who their parents, town, culture, etc wants them to be we'd be much better off.

  
  What a completely FUCKED UP thought you just spewed out of your mouth.
  
  So, If I believe in an ethnic group, that leads to discrimination and violence?
• I Wear Pants

  Ghmothwdwhso wrote:

  I Wear Pants wrote: Race/ethnic/religious/sexual orientation/whatever "pride" only leads to discrimination and violence. If people would just learn to be who they are and not who their parents, town, culture, etc wants them to be we'd be much better off.

  
  What a completely FUCKED UP thought you just spewed out of your mouth.
  
  So, If I believe in an ethnic group, that leads to discrimination and violence?

  No, but what tends to happen is people who have a lot of pride in their whatever (race, culture, what have you) tend to say "look, we're different".
  
  Which is the exact opposite of what most of the civil rights battles have been fought over. The moral of them has been "we're all people".
  
  I just think the disparity is a little bit confusing, do people want to be different or the same? I'm not saying that people shouldn't continue to follow traditions or cultures or do their own thing. I just grow tired of people acting like their specific culture or background is somehow more special because they do x, y, and z.
• Ghmothwdwhso

  I Wear Pants wrote:

  Ghmothwdwhso wrote:

  I Wear Pants wrote: Race/ethnic/religious/sexual orientation/whatever "pride" only leads to discrimination and violence. If people would just learn to be who they are and not who their parents, town, culture, etc wants them to be we'd be much better off.

  
  What a completely FUCKED UP thought you just spewed out of your mouth.
  
  So, If I believe in an ethnic group, that leads to discrimination and violence?

  No, but what tends to happen is people who have a lot of pride in their whatever (race, culture, what have you) tend to say "look, we're different".
  
  Which is the exact opposite of what most of the civil rights battles have been fought over. The moral of them has been "we're all people".
  
  I just think the disparity is a little bit confusing, do people want to be different or the same? I'm not saying that people shouldn't continue to follow traditions or cultures or do their own thing. I just grow tired of people acting like their specific culture or background is somehow more special because they do x, y, and z.

  I think my first response was best. I hate lame ass, apologetic excuses for bad behavior.
  
  What a completely FUCKED UP thought you just spewed out of your mouth. It is not confusing.
• I Wear Pants

  I was not excusing stupid bad behavior. I probably worded what I was trying to say poorly because I'm stupid and it's 3 AM.
  
  People being hypocritical about wanting to be special and wanting to be treated the same does not rationalize any of the violence or discrimination that we see. I was just trying to make an observation.
  
  And it's a fucked up thought spewed forth from my fingers, I don't dictate to myself.
  
  Edit: When looking back my first post was definitely worded in a way that makes it look like I was saying something that I'm not. I've rectified that.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  I think if you're born into this country, or have taken the proper citizen steps, you are American. I'm guessing the laws agree with me(?)
  
  I think prefixes suit the purpose of those with dual citizenship.
  - people who live a certain amount of time in one country and the rest of the time in another country
  
  I agree with Pants in my views that, otherwise, prefixes tend to promote separationism. Having a prefix or not doesn't have any effect on your ancestry and/or culture.