Global Warming claims three lives

• baseballstud24

  Listen guys...I'm far from a tree-hugger...I'm not a hippie. I drive an SUV, I use a lot of electricity, and I don't recycle as much as I should, but I do think we're hurting our planet. Go down to the Ohio River and look at some of the shit being pumped into the river from these plants and whatnot. I'm not sure exactly what type of shit it is, but I know it can't be healthy. I think it's crazy to think we don't impact our environment by our pollution.
  
  If someone like Colin Powell would have created "An Inconvenient Truth", I bet a lot of people's opinion of Global Warming would be different. I know Al Gore can be quacky, but he brought up some good points in his presentation.
• jmog

  baseballstud24 wrote: Listen guys...I'm far from a tree-hugger...I'm not a hippie. I drive an SUV, I use a lot of electricity, and I don't recycle as much as I should, but I do think we're hurting our planet. Go down to the Ohio River and look at some of the shit being pumped into the river from these plants and whatnot. I'm not sure exactly what type of shit it is, but I know it can't be healthy. I think it's crazy to think we don't impact our environment by our pollution.
  
  If someone like Colin Powell would have created "An Inconvenient Truth", I bet a lot of people's opinion of Global Warming would be different. I know Al Gore can be quacky, but he brought up some good points in his presentation.

  See, you keep jumping back and forth between real pollution and fake politicized pollution.
  
  Dumping into the Ohio River is a bad thing and can have disastrous results depending on the chemical and the amounts.
  
  Creating CO2, when considering the global scale, does not have disastrous results.
  
  There is a HUGE difference.
• jmog

  baseballstud24 wrote:
  If someone like Colin Powell would have created "An Inconvenient Truth", I bet a lot of people's opinion of Global Warming would be different. I know Al Gore can be quacky, but he brought up some good points in his presentation.

  I'm sorry, but I forgot to comment on this.
  
  It could have been my mom and dad that created "An Inconvenient Truth" and I still would have called it garbage.
• baseballstud24

  jmog wrote:

  baseballstud24 wrote: Listen guys...I'm far from a tree-hugger...I'm not a hippie. I drive an SUV, I use a lot of electricity, and I don't recycle as much as I should, but I do think we're hurting our planet. Go down to the Ohio River and look at some of the shit being pumped into the river from these plants and whatnot. I'm not sure exactly what type of shit it is, but I know it can't be healthy. I think it's crazy to think we don't impact our environment by our pollution.
  
  If someone like Colin Powell would have created "An Inconvenient Truth", I bet a lot of people's opinion of Global Warming would be different. I know Al Gore can be quacky, but he brought up some good points in his presentation.

  See, you keep jumping back and forth between real pollution and fake politicized pollution.
  
  Dumping into the Ohio River is a bad thing and can have disastrous results depending on the chemical and the amounts.
  
  Creating CO2, when considering the global scale, does not have disastrous results.
  
  There is a HUGE difference.

  I know that, but can you honestly say that the air in the big cities where there is a heavy traffic load is safer than the air where no cars travel? I think more than CO2 is blowing out of these cars, but I admit, I don't do my part to limit the amount of cars on the road.
• thavoice

  The earth has gone through some immense changes over the milions and millions of years it has been around.
  
  Soo many different climate changes..ice ages......who bunch of shit. We, as humans, have only been polluting the earth with these factories and shit for such a short amount of time......so what caused those many, many, many changes in the earth over the millions of years?
  
  Climate change. Planets go through change and what we do is so minor to the grand scheme of things.
• UA5straightin2008

  

  thavoice wrote: The earth has gone through some immense changes over the milions and millions of years it has been around.
  
  Soo many different climate changes..ice ages......who bunch of shit. We, as humans, have only been polluting the earth with these factories and shit for such a short amount of time......so what caused those many, many, many changes in the earth over the millions of years?
  
  Climate change. Planets go through change and what we do is so minor to the grand scheme of things.

  i have to agree with this
• fan_from_texas

  baseballstud24 wrote: I know that, but can you honestly say that the air in the big cities where there is a heavy traffic load is safer than the air where no cars travel? I think more than CO2 is blowing out of these cars, but I admit, I don't do my part to limit the amount of cars on the road.

  The air isn't safer, but that's because of SO2, NOx, VOCs, etc., not because of CO2. CO2, by itself, isn't harmful. The number of cars on the road affects air quality for different reasons.
• jmog

  baseballstud24 wrote:
  
  I know that, but can you honestly say that the air in the big cities where there is a heavy traffic load is safer than the air where no cars travel? I think more than CO2 is blowing out of these cars, but I admit, I don't do my part to limit the amount of cars on the road.

  You are talking SOx and NOx again. You aren't talking CO2.
  
  Cat converters and low sulfur fuel have made it much better, that doesn't mean its "clean".
• baseballstud24

  Ok so I guess I don't know my gasses and what produces it.
  
  Earlier you said that I was talking about CO2...What produces CO2 other than humans when they exhale. (I thought cars produced it too)
  
  What did I mention earlier that produces CO2?
• FatHobbit

  

  baseballstud24 wrote: Ok so I guess I don't know my gasses and what produces it.
  
  Earlier you said that I was talking about CO2...What produces CO2 other than humans when they exhale. (I thought cars produced it too)
  
  What did I mention earlier that produces CO2?

  Global warming is all about CO2, which not everyone believes is harmful. Cars produce lots of other pollutants that pretty much everyone agrees are harmful. If you want to talk about polluting less, then I think everyone is on board. If you want to talk about global warming/CO2 that's where people start to have issues.
• tk421

  

  If someone believes CO2 is harmful, please do like I said and kill yourself because you are harming the Earth just by opening your mouth.
• baseballstud24

  Dude...will you chill? I get it...you want me to kill myself because I feel differently than you on a subject. You've said it enough in this thread.
• tk421

  

  baseballstud24 wrote: Dude...will you chill? I get it...you want me to kill myself because I feel differently than you on a subject. You've said it enough in this thread.

  No, I just find it humorous that you believe a substance that humans exhale and plants take in is somehow harmful to the planet.
• baseballstud24

  So are we in agreement that Global Warming is happening, just not caused by CO2?
• fan_from_texas

  baseballstud24 wrote: So are we in agreement that Global Warming is happening, just not caused by CO2?

  I don't think anyone has agreed to that. Global warming may or may not be happening. If it is happening, it's being caused by various GHGs, of which the Kyoto Protocol identified six (carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, sulphur hexafluoride, hydrofluorocarbons and perfluorocarbons).
  
  Not all of those are otherwise harmful.
  
  Smog doesn't result from CO2. As far as I know, CO2 doesn't have significant other harmful effects outside of the potential as a GHG. In other words, whether CO2 is a 'pollutant' depends entirely on whether global warming is occurring.
• jmog

  Don't forget water vapor (H2O), its a GHG.
  
  Its a much stronger one than CO2 matter of fact.
• Writerbuckeye

  

  baseballstud24 wrote:

  tk421 wrote:

  baseballstud24 wrote:

  tk421 wrote: The world would be a lot better off if the people who believe in man made global warming did their part and killed themselves.

  You honestly don't think we have created a disturbance/change in the atmosphere?

  Do we pollute? Absolutely. Is it going to cause catastrophic changes to this planet? Who knows. If people believe that man is harming this planet, then the logical conclusion would be to have less people, no? So, do your part for mother Earth, kill yourself.

  I do believe man harms the planet, but the logical conclusion is not to have less people (although sometimes it would be nice)...the logical solution would be to stop littering and polluting, no?

  Not if you foolishly believe carbon dioxide is the culprit -- because humans are a major source of it just by breathing.
  
  So come on enviro-whackos: do the right thing and stick a .357 magnum in your mouths!