Lawn Care

• ytownfootball

  

  I bow to your (and gf's) imminent knowledge on all subject matter...you're the greatest :rolleyes:
• GoChiefs

  

  ytownfootball wrote: I bow to your (and gf's) imminent knowledge on all subject matter...you're the greatest :rolleyes:

  I'm not trying to be a dick about it or anything..and I appreciate your input..but I'm just wondering why you guys are still going back and forth when what he said was true? Lol
• LJ

  

  ytownfootball wrote: I bow to your (and gf's) imminent knowledge on all subject matter...you're the greatest :rolleyes:

  She's a fucking Doctor. You're just pissed because you were wrong. I personally know I would listen to a Doctor over someone who isn't.
• GoChiefs

  

  FatHobbit wrote: I know from the earlier thread that his dogs are already vaccinated and one of them got a new strain of parvo. Apparently another one is sick and I think he's trying to keep the others from also getting sick.

  Correct..we have one more that has not been sick. She is just a little Yorkie..so I need to make sure she doesn't get sick either!
• LJ

  

  GoChiefs wrote:

  ytownfootball wrote: I bow to your (and gf's) imminent knowledge on all subject matter...you're the greatest :rolleyes:

  I'm not trying to be a dick about it or anything..and I appreciate your input..but I'm just wondering why you guys are still going back and forth when what he said was true? Lol

  and GoCheifs can, in fact, verify that my gf is a vet, as she is friends with one of his old friends.
• FatHobbit

  

  GoChiefs wrote:

  FatHobbit wrote: I know from the earlier thread that his dogs are already vaccinated and one of them got a new strain of parvo. Apparently another one is sick and I think he's trying to keep the others from also getting sick.

  Correct..we have one more that has not been sick. She is just a little Yorkie..so I need to make sure she doesn't get sick either!

  I hope she doesn't get sick. Is this one going to be as expensive as the last one? I love my two dogs, but I don't think I would pay that much.
• GoChiefs

  

  FatHobbit wrote: I hope she doesn't get sick. Is this one going to be as expensive as the last one? I love my two dogs, but I don't think I would pay that much.

  Not sure yet..if we can treat it at home..$400.00..if not..then yes..it will probably be as expensive. They think we caught it early enough that we should be able to treat it..plus she is 6 years old..so she has a stronger immune system than our pup. But I hear ya..I didn't think I would ever spend this much money either..but they are part of the family..especially the one that is sick now. She's my dog. So I will do whatever it takes with her. Just a damn good thing I'm going back to work. LOL
• LJ

  

  FatHobbit wrote:

  GoChiefs wrote:

  FatHobbit wrote: I know from the earlier thread that his dogs are already vaccinated and one of them got a new strain of parvo. Apparently another one is sick and I think he's trying to keep the others from also getting sick.

  Correct..we have one more that has not been sick. She is just a little Yorkie..so I need to make sure she doesn't get sick either!

  I hope she doesn't get sick. Is this one going to be as expensive as the last one? I love my two dogs, but I don't think I would pay that much.

  My gf once worked a case where a woman was paying over $15,000 on her lab, after she had already spent $5,000 and the treatments didn't work.
• FatHobbit

  

  LJ wrote:

  FatHobbit wrote:

  GoChiefs wrote:

  FatHobbit wrote: I know from the earlier thread that his dogs are already vaccinated and one of them got a new strain of parvo. Apparently another one is sick and I think he's trying to keep the others from also getting sick.

  Correct..we have one more that has not been sick. She is just a little Yorkie..so I need to make sure she doesn't get sick either!

  I hope she doesn't get sick. Is this one going to be as expensive as the last one? I love my two dogs, but I don't think I would pay that much.

  My gf once worked a case where a woman was paying over $15,000 on her lab, after she had already spent $5,000 and the treatments didn't work.

  Not quite as bad, but I had a friend spend $6,000 on a horse with a twisted intestine and the horse didn't make it. And then they had to pay to dispose of the poor thing.
  
  I know vets are going to do whatever they think can save an animal, but as someone who's paying the bills I'm going to try to limit the expenses to less than the value of the animal. (It's hard to put a value on pets that I love, but it's definitely less than $1,000 for a dog)
• Fab1b

  

  I love my dog but I damn sure ain't emptying my savings for it. I will limit on what I spend on my pet care as well. I'd drop a grand to save him but at the same time my dog is turning 13yrs (choco lab/sheppard mix) so his years are about up anyways.
• LJ

  

  FatHobbit wrote:

  LJ wrote:

  FatHobbit wrote:

  GoChiefs wrote:

  FatHobbit wrote: I know from the earlier thread that his dogs are already vaccinated and one of them got a new strain of parvo. Apparently another one is sick and I think he's trying to keep the others from also getting sick.

  Correct..we have one more that has not been sick. She is just a little Yorkie..so I need to make sure she doesn't get sick either!

  I hope she doesn't get sick. Is this one going to be as expensive as the last one? I love my two dogs, but I don't think I would pay that much.

  My gf once worked a case where a woman was paying over $15,000 on her lab, after she had already spent $5,000 and the treatments didn't work.

  Not quite as bad, but I had a friend spend $6,000 on a horse with a twisted intestine and the horse didn't make it. And then they had to pay to dispose of the poor thing.
  
  I know vets are going to do whatever they think can save an animal, but as someone who's paying the bills I'm going to try to limit the expenses to less than the value of the animal. (It's hard to put a value on pets that I love, but it's definitely less than $1,000 for a dog)

  Yeah colic surgery is expensive. Everyone varies on what they will spend on a pet. There is a scum DUI lawyer that has been paying ICU costs at OSU for months to keep his dog alive that just needs to die.
  
  Other people want to euthanize for a $800 broken leg.
• GoChiefs

  

  Fab1b wrote: I love my dog but I damn sure ain't emptying my savings for it. I will limit on what I spend on my pet care as well. I'd drop a grand to save him but at the same time my dog is turning 13yrs (choco lab/sheppard mix) so his years are about up anyways.

  Who the fuck asked you? I don't know..like I said..I can't put a price tag on a member of my family. I never thought I'd do it either..but once I was presented with the problem..I didn't even give it a second thought.
• Fab1b

  

  Kiss my ass Chiefs
• THE4RINGZ

  

  Two guys fighting over one dog. Yep, it's happening.
• ytownfootball

  

  LJ wrote:

  ytownfootball wrote: I bow to your (and gf's) imminent knowledge on all subject matter...you're the greatest :rolleyes:

  She's a fucking Doctor. You're just pissed because you were wrong. I personally know I would listen to a Doctor over someone who isn't.

  Sorry for the pissing match GoChiefs, I really am, some things just need pointed out.
  
  Please enlighten me where I was wrong LJ, keeping in mind that "likely" does not equal is. Even if I had said "is" that is not where being "pissed" comes into play. It comes from your condecention in calling me "homie". I'm not your fucking homie, nor do I care to be. You posted shit like that for years on the old huddle and haven't managed to mature enough to leave it behind despite being elevated to "moderator" status. The fact is, you're too easily baited into a pissing match and it's not the first time you've shot the first volley. Seems to me you have quite the latent inferiority complex that only manages to be satisfied on a message board. In short, I kinda feel sorry for you, but I won't lose any sleep over it.
  
  You just keep calling people names and service that complex as needed, and the rest of us won't be shedding tears when you become the first moderator to lose that status. I'll no longer post on the subject and allow you to have the last word, but I do invite you to continue via PM, which I hesitate to do as you frequently post those of others you've had with for public consumption...again, showing your immaturity.
  
  Again, sorry GoChiefs.
• LJ

  

  ytownfootball wrote:

  LJ wrote:

  ytownfootball wrote: I bow to your (and gf's) imminent knowledge on all subject matter...you're the greatest :rolleyes:

  She's a fucking Doctor. You're just pissed because you were wrong. I personally know I would listen to a Doctor over someone who isn't.

  Sorry for the pissing match GoChiefs, I really am, some things just need pointed out.
  
  Please enlighten me where I was wrong LJ, keeping in mind that "likely" does not equal is. Even if I had said "is" that is not where being "pissed" comes into play. It comes from your condecention in calling me "homie". I'm not your fucking homie, nor do I care to be. You posted shit like that for years on the old huddle and haven't managed to mature enough to leave it behind despite being elevated to "moderator" status. The fact is, you're too easily baited into a pissing match and it's not the first time you've shot the first volley. Seems to me you have quite the latent inferiority complex that only manages to be satisfied on a message board. In short, I kinda feel sorry for you, but I won't lose any sleep over it.
  
  You just keep calling people names and service that complex as needed, and the rest of us won't be shedding tears when you become the first moderator to lose that status. I'll no longer post on the subject and allow you to have the last word, but I do invite you to continue via PM, which I hesitate to do as you frequently post those of others you've had with for public consumption...again, showing your immaturity.
  
  Again, sorry GoChiefs.

  It's a message board. I post on here to post on here. I don't serve any "inferiority complex". Calling you "homie" is merely just my posting style and I really don't care if you like it or not.
  
  Anyways, there is no reason to continue on PM because there is nothing to continue, a virus cannot go "dormant" when it is on an inanimate object, it is either alive or dead, and that is the fact.
  
  But, you can PM me and tell me why I would lose moderator status for merely correcting a fallacy?
  
  BTW, I don't post PM convo's for other's consumption. I called a poster out for sending a racially charged PM and he denied it and called me a liar and all i did was post proof that he sent it.
  
  So, in essence....
  1. You say a Doctor is wrong and that you know more than them.
  2. You make up some bullshit about the word "homie" being used as some sort of name calling
  3. You turn my being bored and posting into some inferiority complex
  4. Attack me for saying I will lose my mod status over nothing
  5. Make up a lie about me sharing private debates.
  
  I think you may have the inferiority complex.
• bo shemmy3337

  LJ is 100% correct about viruses.
• I Wear Pants

  bo shemmy3337 wrote: LJ is 100% correct about viruses.

  LJ knows a lot about viruses.
  
  This thread has been entertaining. So is parvo something an animal gets or...?
• LJ

  

  I Wear Pants wrote:

  bo shemmy3337 wrote: LJ is 100% correct about viruses.

  LJ knows a lot about viruses.
  
  This thread has been entertaining. So is parvo something an animal gets or...?

  
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canine_parvovirus
• psywarrior

  i missed alot. so parvo cant go dormant eh?
• Series62

  "Treatment for parvovirus is supportive. There is no direct anti-viral medication for this disease. Treatment efforts are focused on keeping puppies hydrated, making sure that their electrolyte balances are relatively normal and preventing secondary infections that occur due to the tissue damage and low white blood cell counts. There are a number of things that can be helpful when treating parvovirus: Antiemetic drugs - ondansetron, dolasetron and maropitant (Cerenia Rx) Intravenous or subcutaneous fluid therapy Broad spectrum antibiotics – note that this is an important part of treatment even though this is a viral illness! Hyperimmune plasma or antiendotoxin sera (Septi-serum Rx) Flunixin (Banamine Rx) may be beneficial if puppies become septicemic (have widespread bacterial infection) If a puppy survives the first four days of treatment it is likely that it will survive parvovirus infection. Vaccination and
  
  Prevention
  
  Puppies receive protection from parvovirus in the colostrum, or first milk produced by their mothers. This protection is variable depending on whether the mother had antibodies against parvovirus and how much colostrum a puppy received in its first 24 hours of life. In some cases this protection is not conferred. This variability in maternal protection is the major reason a series of vaccinations is given to puppies. A starting date for vaccination is picked based on the puppy’s ability to respond to infection and the likely timing of exposure to the disease. In general the first vaccination in the puppy series is given between 6 and 8 weeks of age. Only a portion of puppies are capable of responding to this initial vaccine series but since it isn’t practical to determine in advance which puppies can respond, all are vaccinated. The puppies that need the protection get it and the rest do not benefit from the first vaccine. At least 2 weeks later and preferably 3 to 4 weeks later, a second vaccination is given. A larger percentage of puppies respond to this vaccine, but not all of them. The vaccination series is continued at 3 to 4 week intervals until it is likely that all puppies who can respond to vaccination have done so. The number of vaccinations in the series and the age at which the final puppy series vaccination is given will depend on the type of vaccine used, the breed of the puppy, the puppy’s lifestyle, the owner’s experiences and the veterinarian’s experiences with the disease. Vaccines are produced by several vaccine manufacturers for prevention of parvovirus. Most of the currently available vaccines are high antigen vaccines which break through maternal antibody protection earlier than the the original parvovirus vaccines. These vaccines also provide protection in most puppies when given between 12 and 14 weeks of age. The older parvovirus vaccines had to be given until 16 or even 20 weeks of age to ensure maximum protection. Of the currently available vaccines still in use only the Vanguard ™ series of vaccines from Pfizer Animal Health ™ are the older type of vaccine (as of 2006, per “Infectious Diseases of the Dog and Cat” by Greene). There is a period of time, between 2 and 3 weeks, when the parvovirus strains found in most infections can cause disease before there is a chance for vaccinations to work. At the present time there is no way to avoid this period. More frequent vaccination is not helpful and vaccinations given closer than two weeks apart may even impair immunity. For this reason, it is best to avoid exposure to potential sites of infection, such as dog parks, dog shows and kennels until after the last vaccine in the series. It is also important to remember that the veterinarian’s office is a potential site of contamination, especially the area outside the veterinary hospital. Puppies should be walked directly to the door and should be kept away from other puppies in the waiting room that appear to be ill. Veterinary hospitals and kennels try very hard to properly clean up after incidences of diarrhea and in areas in which exposure can occur but it is hard to do this perfectly. Parvovirus is very hardy in the environment. If your house becomes contaminated by the virus clean any surfaces that can be cleaned with chlorine bleach diluted 1 oz of bleach to 32 oz of water. The disinfectant potassium peroxymonosulfate (Trifectant ™ or Virkon ™) is also effective. It is extremely hard to disinfect a yard. Realistically, if your yard has been potentially contaminated with parvovirus it would probably be best not to get a new puppy and expose it to the yard for at least six months and nine months would be better. Areas of the yard that are exposed to sunlight will require less time for the virus to die than areas of the yard that are shaded, moist and sandy. At the present time there is not a disinfectant product marketed for use in yards that has been proven to be effective against parvovirus.
  
  Mike Richards, DVM 10/21/2007 For information on parvovirus in shelter situations:
  
  http://www.sheltermedicine.com/portal/is_parvovirus_canine.shtml
  
  Hey chiefs, perhaps you should have "googled" it. No insult intended here. Hope this helps!
• LJ

  

  psywarrior wrote: i missed alot. so parvo cant go dormant eh?

  Nope. You didn't miss anything.
• GoChiefs

  

  Hey series, perhaps you shave have "read the original post". No insult intended either..but that doesn't answer my question..it has nothing to do with my original post quite honestly.
  
  A) I know what Parvo..my original post had absolutely no mention of Parvo.
  B) I know what causes Parvo.
  C) I know there is nothing marketed to disinfect Parvo in yards.
  D) Since they don't make anything specifically for it..that would probably be why I'm using the bleach right? Bleach kills the parvo virus.
  
  Thank you for trying though!
• Oxathiazide

  I think the intent was to suggest that you might find more help elsewhere online than what you've seemed to have gotten in here.
• LJ

  

  Oxathiazide wrote: You're welcome!
  
  The intent was to suggest that you might find more help elsewhere online than what you've seemed to have gotten in here.

  He wasn't even asking about Parvo...
  

  I have to spray my yard with a 50/50 mixture of bleach and water..and it's a fairly big yard. [size=x-large]So I'd rather not have to use a pump sprayer and do it myself. Does anyone know of a place that does this?[/size]