Lifting question

• Bigred1995

  

  ccrunner609 wrote: One poster mentioned heavy weights and low reps......that is completely wrong. Building muscle is Lower weight, higher reps.
  
  Make sure that you are giving your muscles full recovery between days of use. Tear that muscle down and let it grow back bigger before ripping it down again.
  
  I always did a routine where I had 4 days break between using any specific group. 100+ reps per session per muscle group using sets of 12-15 reps and at least 3 different lifts to hit those muscles.
  
  You have to switch up your lifts to get your muscle to respond, you have to change up your hand positions do hit the complete muscle.

  I seriously hope you aren't teaching your students this, because it's absolutely 100% wrong!!!
  
  Light weight/high reps lead to light to no tears in the muscle, where as heavy weights/low reps lead to large muscle tears and that in turn leads to building muscle! What you will get with low weight/high reps is leaner muscles and a higher tolerance to the lactic acid build up.
  In order to tear the muscle, you need the heavier weight!
• Gblock

  Bigred1995 wrote:

  ccrunner609 wrote: One poster mentioned heavy weights and low reps......that is completely wrong. Building muscle is Lower weight, higher reps.
  
  Make sure that you are giving your muscles full recovery between days of use. Tear that muscle down and let it grow back bigger before ripping it down again.
  
  I always did a routine where I had 4 days break between using any specific group. 100+ reps per session per muscle group using sets of 12-15 reps and at least 3 different lifts to hit those muscles.
  
  You have to switch up your lifts to get your muscle to respond, you have to change up your hand positions do hit the complete muscle.

  I seriously hope you aren't teaching your students this, because it's absolutely 100% wrong!!!
  
  Light weight/high reps lead to light to no tears in the muscle, where as heavy weights/low reps lead to large muscle tears and that in turn leads to building muscle! What you will get with low weight/high reps is leaner muscles and a higher tolerance to the lactic acid build up.
  In order to tear the muscle, you need the heavier weight!

  
  i agree with this.....high weight/ low reps for the specific question he asked....his goal is to gain muscle and gain weight. is that the best workout or the most healthiest thing? no but if that is his goal that is going to work best. for most people i would say that those who reccommend a mix of workouts is a great idea.
• eersandbeers

  Bigred1995 wrote:

  ccrunner609 wrote: One poster mentioned heavy weights and low reps......that is completely wrong. Building muscle is Lower weight, higher reps.
  
  Make sure that you are giving your muscles full recovery between days of use. Tear that muscle down and let it grow back bigger before ripping it down again.
  
  I always did a routine where I had 4 days break between using any specific group. 100+ reps per session per muscle group using sets of 12-15 reps and at least 3 different lifts to hit those muscles.
  
  You have to switch up your lifts to get your muscle to respond, you have to change up your hand positions do hit the complete muscle.

  I seriously hope you aren't teaching your students this, because it's absolutely 100% wrong!!!
  
  Light weight/high reps lead to light to no tears in the muscle, where as heavy weights/low reps lead to large muscle tears and that in turn leads to building muscle! What you will get with low weight/high reps is leaner muscles and a higher tolerance to the lactic acid build up.
  In order to tear the muscle, you need the heavier weight!

  
  Yeah that's about as wrong as you can get. Low weight and high reps in no way builds muscle. You'll get toned and build endurance, but you won't gain mass or strength.
  
  7-10 reps of high weight is good for building muscle and mass. It's supposed to be a percentage but I never feel like figuring that out.
  
  Don't forget, the rest period is also important. If you are working on building muscle and mass you should take at least 2- 2 1/2 minutes between each set.
• eersandbeers

  ccrunner609 wrote:
  
  You guys do realize that a weight that can be repped 10 times is considered a "lighter" weight????

  
  To me, lighter weight is considered 12-15 reps.
  
  You probably shouldn't be able to get 10 reps on your last set, but I don't consider that light weight.
• Sonofanump

  Concur: 8-10 mass, 12-15 lean.
  Rest between sets will also effect mass vs lean.
  
  Personally I don't like lifting something I can't normally move at least 6 times.
• Sonofanump

  ccrunner609 wrote:

  Sonofanump wrote: Concur: 8-10 mass, 12-15 lean Mass
  Rest between sets will also effect mass vs lean.
  
  Personally I don't like lifting something I can't normally move at least 6 times.

  
  I fixed that for ya.

  Are you an oxymoron?
• Sonofanump

  ccrunner609 wrote:

  Sonofanump wrote:

  ccrunner609 wrote:

  Sonofanump wrote: Concur: 8-10 mass, 12-15 lean Mass
  Rest between sets will also effect mass vs lean.
  
  Personally I don't like lifting something I can't normally move at least 6 times.

  
  I fixed that for ya.

  Are you an oxymoron?

  Sure, you seem to be narrow minded and only want to think that what you know is the truths of the world.

  Lean (lacking or deficient in flesh) and mass (a quantity or aggregate of matter usually of considerable size) are opposites. If you would have said lean muscle when you incorrectly altered my post then you would have been correct.
• Bigred1995

  

  ccrunner609 wrote: Dont worry I dont teach young kids anything about what I know....

  Thats a good thing; you've posted some pretty idiotic things in the past; it would be pretty scary to think you're passing that on to the impressionable youth.

  ccrunner609 wrote:...but I know what I am talking about. My family member that has 2 Muscle Mania championships on ESPN and a Powerhouse gym owner knows his stuff and I learned it from him.

  Way to ride the coattails of someone else to validate your ignorance! I know what I'm talking about because I've actually used this information in reality. I may not have, "2 Muscle Mania championships on ESPN and a Powerhouse gym" but I've been lifting since the summer after my sixth grade year, plus four years of high school weight training classes (yes we actually learned something in class) on top of three years of high school football, four years of high school wrestling, three years of high school [size=xx-small]track[/size], and four years of collegiate wrestling to actually back up what I'm saying.

  ccrunner609 wrote: So go ahead and keep on powerlifting for that muscle of yours.

  My workouts have never been what you would consider "power lifting" workouts, as I mentioned earlier I wrestled and most wrestling workouts are geared toward burning fat and building lean muscle. Now, in my old age, I'm just trying to keep from getting to fat!!