Looting ….

• Belly35

  

  This seems to be a mode of operation in times of disasters.
  People steal just to steal …not for food to survival. I can understand that and can see where at some point the need to provide food in a disaster situation would lead to stealing.
  But TV, Electrics, Appliances, Cars, is not requirement for survival of immediate needs.
  
  What your suggestion to handle Looters?
• Fab1b

  

  I agree, I have never understood those that loot or cause more civil unrest especially in time of disasters!
• j_crazy

  

  especially considering the pawn shops are just as jacked up as the store you're taking the TV from.
• THE4RINGZ

  

  It seems the police, etc. are handling the looting situation in Chile pretty well.
• berry

  You have to think outside the box and sell shit that looters would never steal, like Lean Cuisine, or tampons, or Leo Dicapprio movies or perhaps GM vehicles.
  
  When is last time you saw looters at the Library.
• Belly35

  

  berry wrote: You have to think outside the box and sell shit that looters would never steal, like Lean Cuisine, or tampons, or Leo Dicapprio movies or perhaps GM vehicles.
  
  When is last time you saw looters at the Library.

  
  
  Can tampons be used as luminaries?
• ytownfootball

  

  The biggest asshats by far are those that use sporting victories as a reason to riot/loot (read LA last years NBA winner)
• berry

  Can tampons be used as luminaries?
  [/quote]
  
  "Fire in the hole!!"
• Strapping Young Lad

  

  Belly35 wrote: This seems to be a mode of operation in times of disasters.
  People steal just to steal …not for food to survival. I can understand that and can see where at some point the need to provide food in a disaster situation would lead to stealing.
  But TV, Electrics, Appliances, Cars, is not requirement for survival of immediate needs.
  
  What your suggestion to handle Looters?

  Hell yeah people loot. These companies and stores steal from you everyday, that's why the brass is rich and you're poor. Steal that shit!!!!!
• Al Capone

  You loot
  We shoot
• O-Trap

  

  I think the sheer volume of people who loot in such times are a perfect study into how a person will act if he or she is feeling invincible from any ramifications of the actions.
  
  Typically in disaster, law enforcement has its hands full ... and then some. In addition, because of the chaos, not too many people notice the identities of individuals looting because of all the mayhem.
  
  So, someone gets to believe the following:
  
  1. The police aren't even going to find out it was them (negating legal ramifications)
  2. There is too much chaos for others to notice, and thus, the public won't find out it was them (negating social ramifications)
  
  At that point, what is there to stop them from looting?
  
  To answer the question why EVERYONE doesn't loot, then, there would still be some that would be too afraid that by some odd chance they WOULD get discovered, and there would be others who wouldn't do it for other reasons (probably mostly religious, honestly).
  
  I'd suggest that this is a perfect example of why it cannot be said that people, at their core, are "good." Take away all feeling of vulnerability, and they will do whatever they can get away with unless there is some other outside force preventing them from doing so.
• Belly35

  

  O-Trap wrote: I think the sheer volume of people who loot in such times are a perfect study into how a person will act if he or she is feeling invincible from any ramifications of the actions.
  
  Typically in disaster, law enforcement has its hands full ... and then some. In addition, because of the chaos, not too many people notice the identities of individuals looting because of all the mayhem.
  
  So, someone gets to believe the following:
  
  1. The police aren't even going to find out it was them (negating legal ramifications)
  2. There is too much chaos for others to notice, and thus, the public won't find out it was them (negating social ramifications)
  
  At that point, what is there to stop them from looting?
  
  To answer the question why EVERYONE doesn't loot, then, there would still be some that would be too afraid that by some odd chance they WOULD get discovered, and there would be others who wouldn't do it for other reasons (probably mostly religious, honestly).
  
  I'd suggest that this is a perfect example of why it cannot be said that people, at their core, are "good." Take away all feeling of vulnerability, and they will do whatever they can get away with unless there is some other outside force preventing them from doing so.

  So are you suggesting ...Shoot the looters
• O-Trap

  

  Belly35 wrote:

  O-Trap wrote: I think the sheer volume of people who loot in such times are a perfect study into how a person will act if he or she is feeling invincible from any ramifications of the actions.
  
  Typically in disaster, law enforcement has its hands full ... and then some. In addition, because of the chaos, not too many people notice the identities of individuals looting because of all the mayhem.
  
  So, someone gets to believe the following:
  
  1. The police aren't even going to find out it was them (negating legal ramifications)
  2. There is too much chaos for others to notice, and thus, the public won't find out it was them (negating social ramifications)
  
  At that point, what is there to stop them from looting?
  
  To answer the question why EVERYONE doesn't loot, then, there would still be some that would be too afraid that by some odd chance they WOULD get discovered, and there would be others who wouldn't do it for other reasons (probably mostly religious, honestly).
  
  I'd suggest that this is a perfect example of why it cannot be said that people, at their core, are "good." Take away all feeling of vulnerability, and they will do whatever they can get away with unless there is some other outside force preventing them from doing so.

  So are you suggesting ...Shoot the looters

  Actually, I'm suggesting that those holding the guns are just as bad as those who they would be shooting.
• Strapping Young Lad

  

  O-Trap wrote: I think the sheer volume of people who loot in such times are a perfect study into how a person will act if he or she is feeling invincible from any ramifications of the actions.
  
  Typically in disaster, law enforcement has its hands full ... and then some. In addition, because of the chaos, not too many people notice the identities of individuals looting because of all the mayhem.
  
  So, someone gets to believe the following:
  
  1. The police aren't even going to find out it was them (negating legal ramifications)
  2. There is too much chaos for others to notice, and thus, the public won't find out it was them (negating social ramifications)
  
  At that point, what is there to stop them from looting?
  
  To answer the question why EVERYONE doesn't loot, then, there would still be some that would be too afraid that by some odd chance they WOULD get discovered, and there would be others who wouldn't do it for other reasons (probably mostly religious, honestly).
  
  I'd suggest that this is a perfect example of why it cannot be said that people, at their core, are "good." Take away all feeling of vulnerability, and they will do whatever they can get away with unless there is some other outside force preventing them from doing so.

  I see it a little different. I think people generally realize that we live in a world that tells us to desire material things and then inflates the prices and sells our labor back to us for a higher price. I think people are generally fed up with the rat race, always being subject to societal (???) pressures to consume, consume, consume when we really can't afford to, but we do it anyway and accumulate debt (many of us).
  
  Then when that chance comes along to walk into a store and grab all that high priced shit for free, well that's just what we'll do. And i say why not?!?!?! We spend most of our waking lives at work, enduring pain and stress, we're away from our families most of the day, when we get home we'ree too tired to do anything enjoyable, and many people are treated like shit at work. Then we spend what little money we earn on the cost of living in the modern world, while those above us get rich off our labor. So, you can work for two-weeks to buy that TV or you can walk into the store and steal it nd not get caught, what's the incentive not to????
• Scarlet_Fever

  

  O-Trap wrote:

  Belly35 wrote:

  O-Trap wrote: I think the sheer volume of people who loot in such times are a perfect study into how a person will act if he or she is feeling invincible from any ramifications of the actions.
  
  Typically in disaster, law enforcement has its hands full ... and then some. In addition, because of the chaos, not too many people notice the identities of individuals looting because of all the mayhem.
  
  So, someone gets to believe the following:
  
  1. The police aren't even going to find out it was them (negating legal ramifications)
  2. There is too much chaos for others to notice, and thus, the public won't find out it was them (negating social ramifications)
  
  At that point, what is there to stop them from looting?
  
  To answer the question why EVERYONE doesn't loot, then, there would still be some that would be too afraid that by some odd chance they WOULD get discovered, and there would be others who wouldn't do it for other reasons (probably mostly religious, honestly).
  
  I'd suggest that this is a perfect example of why it cannot be said that people, at their core, are "good." Take away all feeling of vulnerability, and they will do whatever they can get away with unless there is some other outside force preventing them from doing so.

  So are you suggesting ...Shoot the looters

  Actually, I'm suggesting that those holding the guns are just as bad as those who they would be shooting.

  
  Not even close. Those shooting are just filling in for the Law that have their hands full. Steal from me and get noticed. (social ramifications) Steal from me and get shot (life ramifications)
• O-Trap

  

  Scarlet_Fever wrote: Not even close. Those shooting are just filling in for the Law that have their hands full. Steal from me and get noticed. (social ramifications) Steal from me and get shot (life ramifications)

  Except I think the law enforcement officers are also bad by nature.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  I say break their legs (femurs) AND ankles and let them lay there in the street, for everybody to see.
  If they can manage to drag themselves AND their booty to their home, it's theirs to keep.
• Strapping Young Lad

  

  I should make it clear that I've no moral problem with shoplifting, however stealing from someones' personal property is very low. You can shoot those people......
• LJ

  

  Strapping Young Lad wrote: I should make it clear that I've no moral problem with shoplifting,

  
• Gardens35

  LJ wrote:

  Strapping Young Lad wrote: I should make it clear that I've no moral problem with shoplifting,

  

  "For Truth"
• Belly35

  

  berry wrote: Can tampons be used as luminaries?

  "Fire in the hole!!"
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  Great...... I'll be the straight guy