training dogs

• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  This is the first black lab pup I've had and he's about impossible sometimes. Hes house broken and stays off furniture and only chews on his toys... but the fucker will not listen when you tell him to come inside. Every other dog I've had would come when u yelled at it. This fuckin thing just growls back and keeps running. Beating it's ass does nothing. He's not phased by an ass beating. How do u get a black lab to come when u call it? I just go in the house and wait for him to finally come in and then beat its ass. Not working tho.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  Lure it with treats, all the while telling it "inside!"
• RLDE34

  Why do you have to mention that it's a "black" lab?
  
  On a serious note, I would say that beating its ass after it does something you want it to do (come inside) would be a bad idea.
• sherm03

  

  If you wait until the dog gets inside...and then beat its ass...the dog is going to associate coming inside with getting the shit kicked out of it. He'll never end up coming in when you call him if you keep that up.
  
  Follow center's advice...dogs generally respond well to treats when you're coaxing them to do something...and then eventually, when he hears "inside" he'll come running for a treat.
• september63

  

  Just dont ask Snyds vet for any advice!!!
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  well im not chasing it around outside to beat its ass and it needs to know it pissed me off and shouldnt do that.
  
  But it does make sense what ur saying.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  If it is a young dog, it will follow you if you run away from it.
• dancinbear

  Hm....you wait for him to come in and beat his ass.....and then you want him to come in voluntarily? to you? so you can beat his ass again? Nice try.
  
  We have a yellow lab, she just turned 9. Still won't come when we call her when she's outside. However, she knows she gets a piece of chicken jerky when she comes in. So, she may not respond to her name, but she responds to "chicken" quite well, and always has.
  
  She often finds it funny to come right to the door and then just stand there while we stand there with teh door open freezing our asses off. We just close the door on her, and she barks and gets all pissy, then comes right in when we open it again.
  
  Greatest dogs ever, but don't expect him to settle down much til he's 3. But he'll never lose the attitude.
• TCSoup

  I'am a dog trainer and normally i'd give you some free advice on how to correct your dogs behavior in a very humane and fun way for the both of you. But, after reading how your first choice was to physically abuse a puppy. ( Kind of like punching a baby in the stomach for crying) My advice would now be to give that dog away to a "Good" home as soon as possible. Or I'll come over and beat your ass for not coming outside to play.
• pepperpot

  If you keep hitting your puppy and it is not working then I suggest you try positive training. DUH ! Use treats to get him the house. It will take some of your time but it works. Treats and praise are more effective then hitting the dog. Good Luck.....
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  every dog ive had I smacked its ass when it didnt listen and all of them ended up listening cuz they didnt want smacked again. the success rate has been optimal. It's like a kid.. when a kid doesn't listen, he gets his ass beat.
• pepperpot

  You might have met your match with a Lab. Headstrong, stubborn but smart. Try the reward method for a few days, you will get better results.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  pepperpot wrote: You might have met your match with a Lab. Headstrong, stubborn but smart. Try the reward method for a few days, you will get better results.

  I'll prolly have to.
• GoChiefs

  

  We have huskies..same thing...love being outside...let her come in when shes ready...when she finally comes in..praise her..tell her good girl..pet her..whatever. Soon she will associate coming in when told as being a good thing. Thats what worked for our dogs.
• BRF

  

  Ah, Zwick. You met your match with a young dog!
  
  Folow the good advice given here and stop the beatings!
• HitsRus

  

  TCSoup wrote: I'am a dog trainer and normally i'd give you some free advice on how to correct your dogs behavior in a very humane and fun way for the both of you. But, after reading how your first choice was to physically abuse a puppy. ( Kind of like punching a baby in the stomach for crying) My advice would now be to give that dog away to a "Good" home as soon as possible. Or I'll come over and beat your ass for not coming outside to play.

  +1
  
  Physical violence doesn't work very well on training pets... It works poorly on dogs...not at all on cats. The only time I hit my Golden was when he did something dangerous...go into my neighbor's yard where he might have got shot. That was mainly a lot of very loud yelling and getting swatted a few times with a rolled up newspaper.
  If you want your dog to respond appropriately, talk to him in gentle tones and give him plenty of affection and a treat when he does what you want. Raise the tone or talk to him sternly when he crosses or begins to cross a limit and withhold treats for willfull disobedience.
  My golden goes for walks with me without a leash...if he starts to wander off or lag behind, a firm tone in my voice will bring him back. When we get back he gets a hug, his ears scratched and a biscuit.(every time). He dutifully delivers the morning paper to Mrs Hits too...and he gets a biscuit. If we should forget to give him his treat he reminds us with a bark and sitting by the biscuit bin.I'm sure he thinks he has us trained.
  I think it goes both ways.
• BRF

  

  When I was young...........a long long time ago, I had a wire-haired terrier who was horrible about obeying. He had to be chained up or he was gone. You could not catch this guy. He enjoyed galloping up to you until you thought you might have a chance to catch him and then he would speed off right by you.
  
  He had a special love for stocking caps. When he was loose, he would run up to a little kid, jump up, and snap the hat right off of them. And that was the end of your stocking cap.
  
  We built a little dog house for him just like Snoopy's and he would lay right on top of the point of the roof, exactly like Snoopy.
  
  His name was Willie.
  
  He never got a beating.
• BRF

  

  And I hope I killed this thread.
  
  
  edit:...................ooops.......apparently not.
• ZWICK 4 PREZ

  

  maybe if u woulda beat willies ass, he wouldnt have taken all those hats.
• BRF

  

  ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: maybe if u woulda beat willies ass, he wouldnt have taken all those hats.

  I've actually thought about that.
  
  I notice that your typing has changed a little bit..................ha ha!
• joe.hackett

  I used one of those shock collars made for hunting. Had like a half mile range. The dog knew the commands and usually listened, but when he didn't he would get zapped.
  
  I liked it because I could take him places and let him roam like the beach or open fields and such knowing that if I needed to get him back asap I could.
• Squirmydog

  HitsRus wrote:

  TCSoup wrote: I'am a dog trainer and normally i'd give you some free advice on how to correct your dogs behavior in a very humane and fun way for the both of you. But, after reading how your first choice was to physically abuse a puppy. ( Kind of like punching a baby in the stomach for crying) My advice would now be to give that dog away to a "Good" home as soon as possible. Or I'll come over and beat your ass for not coming outside to play.

  +1
  
  Physical violence doesn't work very well on training pets... It works poorly on dogs...not at all on cats. The only time I hit my Golden was when he did something dangerous...go into my neighbor's yard where he might have got shot. That was mainly a lot of very loud yelling and getting swatted a few times with a rolled up newspaper.
  If you want your dog to respond appropriately, talk to him in gentle tones and give him plenty of affection and a treat when he does what you want. Raise the tone or talk to him sternly when he crosses or begins to cross a limit and withhold treats for willfull disobedience.
  My golden goes for walks with me without a leash...if he starts to wander off or lag behind, a firm tone in my voice will bring him back. When we get back he gets a hug, his ears scratched and a biscuit.(every time). He dutifully delivers the morning paper to Mrs Hits too...and he gets a biscuit. If we should forget to give him his treat he reminds us with a bark and sitting by the biscuit bin.I'm sure he thinks he has us trained.
  I think it goes both ways.

  Agreed. Whoopins only make the dog hand shy and afraid to come to you. A puppy should never be off leash outside until he is condtioned to come. He also knows by now that he is faster than you are. When you want him to come, give him the "come" command and real him in like a fish. Praise him when he comes. Give him little tidbits of cheese or pizza. Puppies have a natural desire to please. Take advantage of that.
  Training sessions should be short, appx 15 min or so. After the training, reward him with a toy. Dogs love to chew. It may take a little longer to get him to trust you, but if you continue to make it positive for him, he will come around.
  I caged trained our dog. he was never out of his cage without me or Mrs Squirmy present. It is a thousand times easier to not learn a behavior in the first place than to unlearn a bad one.
  Fetch is also a great way to teach a puppy to come to you. You teach fetch in three parts- go get it, bring it here, drop it. Remember you have to praise and sometimes show the dog what to do.
  We also rolled a ball back and forth to each other. When the puppy followed the ball to us, we praised him for coming to us.
  I hope this helps. Puppies are a lot of fun, but remember they don't look at the world the way humans do. They understand and respond to respect. Good Luck!
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Here's a question. Our dog constantly is stealing our daughter's stuffed animals. How do you stop that with positive reinforcement? Ass beating is only thing I can think of.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  Spray the stuffed animals with bitter apple (manufactured by Grannick), you can pick up a bottle at Petco or Petsmart.
• Curly J

  

  Manhattan Buckeye wrote: Spray the stuffed animals with bitter apple (manufactured by Grannick), you can pick up a bottle at Petco or Petsmart.

  Ditto. My Mutt tore a hole in a cushion in The Wife's couch, back when we were dating, and tore the stuffing out. I repaired it, spayed the stuff on it, and it never happened again. We had the couch for 5-6 more years. (In my dog's defense, The Wife said the dog was too tempted as it probably smells of 2 kittys and a fat man...her ex )
  
  Come on Zwick, beating the dog when he finally comes in ??? Kinda like beating a woman when she finally puts out...think about it.