There is NO CRYING in Baseball

• JTizzle

  Mark Mcgwire crying on ESPN was quite funny to me this morning! The crying thing might have worked four years ago but not today. "I only took steroids to stay healthy and keep the endurance to finish a 162 game season." Shut the fuck up you douche bag! He's been lying about the use for years now comes up with this line.
  
  I think we should start a new league called the JBL Juiced Baseball League! Then they can shoot up all the HGH and steroids they please. This way we can keep the records separate so none of the old timers get their panties in a bunch!
• salto

  

  Actually, he never lied. He refused to discuss his past when in front of congress. He had never admitted or denied his use until yesterday. His refusal to give testimoney in congress was the recommendation of his lawyers, due to the potential for prosecution. But don't let anything like "facts" get in your way of criticizing him.
• JTizzle

  Did You watch those Congressional hearings where he testified and was questioned? From what i can remember he blatantly was avoiding and dancing around questions which leads to lying or hiding something where I come from. It was obvious during those hearings and most of Congress thought he was lying even though most of them were kissing his ass.
• Upper90

  Yeah, he didn't lie, but should not lying to congress really be looked at as an upside?
  
  I mean, great, he didn't....but the manner in which he didn't was completely ridiculous.
• salto

  

  Yes, actually I did watch the hearings. Was he obviously avoiding the questions? Yes. Did he lie? No. You said he lied, and based your dislike on a false assumption. I merely pointed that out. I never said "not lying" was somehow a determinent for his moral character. He used steroids, he cheated the game. But you know what, so did numerous others. Historically many players used various types of PED's. Does that make it right? No. Am I still a fan of McGwire? Yes. The home runs show that Sosa and he put on that season saved baseball in my opinion. The league was still suffering from the strike and the HR Derby-like race started bringing people back to the ball park. So in my book, McGwire should be cut some slack. He never lied, like Clemens, Giambi, A-Rod or Petite. They lied initially and in the case of Petite, Giambi and A-Rod, then later admitted to using. So in that regard, yes, not lying is a positive.
• The Equalizer

  

  He wanted immunity and the Justice Dept wouldn't give it, as said by the (then) Republican Chairman of that committee. If DOJ had given the greenlight he would have testified openly.
• Tiernan

  When you "take the 5th" you might not be technically lying but you are for all intent and purposes admitting to your guilt. And unless you were a complete dumb ass back in '03 you knew this jag-off was guilty. Shame on MLB for letting this turd back in the bowl.
• salto

  

  yeah, he should be banned from the sport even though he never took a "then" banned substance. Genius call. Everybody correctly assumed he had done it. He never tried to hide it. He even had andro clearly visible in his locker during intrerviews. He simply didn't want to perjure himself when in front of congress, so he elected to follow his councils advice. Selig is the dog here. He has thrown all those guys under the bus, rather than admitting he failed in developing a system back then. Hell, this was the late 80's. It took Selig another 20 years to develop a testing program.
• DaBrowns41

  salto wrote: yeah, he should be banned from the sport even though he never took a "then" banned substance. Genius call. Everybody correctly assumed he had done it. He never tried to hide it. He even had andro clearly visible in his locker during intrerviews. He simply didn't want to perjure himself when in front of congress, so he elected to follow his councils advice. Selig is the dog here. He has thrown all those guys under the bus, rather than admitting he failed in developing a system back then. Hell, this was the late 80's. It took Selig another 20 years to develop a testing program.

  He never tried to hide it? Really?
  
  So when he danced around numerous questioning by lawyers and judges, among other people, he wasn't trying to hide it? What was he doing, then?
• Ironman92

  

  I know it's petty...but I can't believe any sports' fan could misspell Mark McGwire.
• osudarby08

  

  HAHAHA Jose Canseco said on ESPN today: "There is no crying in baseball" when talking about McGwire.
• rmolin73

  

  Thug
• JTizzle

  Ironman92 wrote: I know it's petty...but I can't believe any sports' fan could misspell Mark McGwire.

  Yeah it was petty.. No excuse sorry it's fixed!
• salto

  

  JTizzle wrote: Did You watch those Congressional hearings where he testified and was questioned? From what i can remember he blatantly was avoiding and dancing around questions which leads to lying or hiding something where I come from. It was obvious during those hearings and most of Congress thought he was lying even though most of them were kissing his ass.

  DaBrowns41 wrote:

  salto wrote: yeah, he should be banned from the sport even though he never took a "then" banned substance. Genius call. Everybody correctly assumed he had done it. He never tried to hide it. He even had andro clearly visible in his locker during intrerviews. He simply didn't want to perjure himself when in front of congress, so he elected to follow his councils advice. Selig is the dog here. He has thrown all those guys under the bus, rather than admitting he failed in developing a system back then. Hell, this was the late 80's. It took Selig another 20 years to develop a testing program.

  He never tried to hide it? Really?
  
  So when he danced around numerous questioning by lawyers and judges, among other people, he wasn't trying to hide it? What was he doing, then?

  He was keeping himself and those connected to the usage out of prison. If they had granted him immunity, he would have talked then.
• UA5straightin2008

  

  haha quote from colbert report last night..."hey mgwire you may want to inject your tear ducts with some steroids to get rid of that pussy eye"
  
  hahaha LOL'd to that one