College is a Joke

• dlazz

  Belly35;1191780 wrote:I graduated from BGSU with a double major ... can you tell mofo :laugh:

  It wasn't a double major in English, that's for damn sure.
• Automatik

  

  OSH;1191774 wrote:I really wish something would be done to reform education -- the way it's done and the structure.
  
  I think the feds, state, or individual institutions should look at reforming to make education more important. I am really for it, I have my own ideas. I think colleges and universities could do so much more in terms of preparing individuals for "the real world."
  
  I think private schools could do this much sooner than large universities. Just less hoops to jump through. We have started to do some of this "reform" stuff with the team I coach. We are giving the guys an opportunity to really make school worthwhile. There's just no reason why school should cost as much as it is and then pushing everyone on to get a new degree.
  
  It's now "the Master's is the new Bachelor's." Soon enough, it will be "the Doctorate is the new Bachelor's/Master's."
  
  
  EDIT:
  Oh, and I am glad the OP posted about his GPA in graduate school...like that matters...hoping for Dean's List? Cum Laude? Summa Cum Laude? Magna Cum Laude?

  I wish our system was more like in the UK.
• sleeper

  

  dlazz;1191782 wrote:It does, but people automatically assume that people with non-STEM degrees aren't hirable because they didn't take a challenging college degree.
  
  I took a sociology based degree just to get the fuck out of school. I knew it was a game going in and wanted out ASAP.

  I'd hire someone with a non-STEM degree over someone with no degree or an associates. A degree in philosophy isn't worthless, its just not as desirable as other degrees.
  
  A degree in African American studies or leisure studies is worthless and I wouldn't hire that person if they went to Harvard and had a 4.0 GPA.
• FatHobbit

  

  sleeper;1191700 wrote:GEC's aren't a scam. I actually enjoyed some of my GEC's and I think they are important in developing a well rounded individual.

  Damn it, I agree with sleeper. College is supposed to provide you a well rounded education, not get you a job. If you just want a job, get an associates degree.
  
  If the job you want requires a bachelors degree, it's not the colleges fault. That's what the employer is looking for.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  OSH;1191774 wrote:EDIT:
  Oh, and I am glad the OP posted about his GPA in graduate school...like that matters...hoping for Dean's List? Cum Laude? Summa Cum Laude? Magna Cum Laude?

  I posted my GPA to prove that the program is a joke. Anyone who knows me (snot), knows I don't deserve a GPA like that, especially given the effort.
• Ironman92

  

  I never had a 4.0 for a 9 weeks until college. (quarter)
  
  For my master's I was a 4.0 all the way through.
  
  I am a master of teaching. Lol
  
  I guess when you're working your ass off to pay for college it means a little more to you than high school.
• OSH

  

  ernest_t_bass;1191798 wrote:I posted my GPA to prove that the program is a joke. Anyone who knows me (snot), knows I don't deserve a GPA like that, especially given the effort.

  Well, the difference between a Master's and undergrad is the way that professors go at it. At the Master's and Doctorate levels, the professors actually like working with the students because the students have a reason for being there. The professors want to help the students get through it.
  
  Undergrad is completely different. It's weeding out the worthless students.
  
  I know what you mean about the GPA...I've done it now for going on 8.5 years (4.5 of undergrad, 2 of a Master's, and starting my final year of another Master's in August).
• OSH

  

  My eyes were just opened to a high school commencement speech...
  

  If you’ve learned anything in your years here I hope it’s that education should be for, rather than material advantage, the exhilaration of learning. You’ve learned, too, I hope, as Sophocles assured us, that wisdom is the chief element of happiness. (Second is ice cream… just an fyi) I also hope you’ve learned enough to recognize how little you know… how little you know now… at the moment… for today is just the beginning. It’s where you go from here that matters.
  
  As you commence, then, and before you scatter to the winds, I urge you to do whatever you do for no reason other than you love it and believe in its importance.

• fan_from_texas

  Let's hope the students didn't listen to that speech. Telling kids not to worry about money but to do what they love results in lots of art history majors with six figures of student loan debt and no realistic possibility of employment.
• OSH

  

  fan_from_texas;1192079 wrote:Let's hope the students didn't listen to that speech. Telling kids not to worry about money but to do what they love results in lots of art history majors with six figures of student loan debt and no realistic possibility of employment.

  While I agree with you to a point, there's nothing wrong with chasing a dream. But, there has got to be a point of reality AND possibly thinking that sometime a different career may be best.
  
  Heck, there's a lot of people chasing the "dream" of law school, med school, or whatever else ending up in buttloads of debt with no chance of employment either. There was more to that speech too that was pretty quality...
  

  All of this is as it should be, because none of you is special.
  You are not special. You are not exceptional.