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Belly35

I think that some OC individual have a poor conception of the complexity of having accuracy with a hand gun. Remember that the slightest movement of the barrel produces a greater degree of missing the target. Incidentally, the math on this at 15 feet a pistol canted just five degrees will miss a human sized target.</SPAN>

Who of the OC has actually has fired a pistol (9MM and up) at a target or object?

What is your proficiency level with a hand gun?
(At 18 feet what is your average grouping radius for 8 rounds in a 6” bull’s-eye target taking your time). We all know what happens with an inexperience shooter in a rapped fire situation.

SnotBubbles

LOL. Jesus Belly! Quit starting a new thread for everything relevant to the guy with the crowbar thread!!!

Gblock

i think people have a poor conception of the deadliness of a crowbar

Belly35

SnotBubbles;1067787 wrote:LOL. Jesus Belly! Quit starting a new thread for everything relevant to the guy with the crowbar thread!!!

Little less bitching what I do and a little more knowledge and you wouldn't be a nifo

Raw Dawgin' it

I'm going shooting this weekend for the first time in years. Any tips? They have hand guns from 9mm all the way up .45s. I'd like to try a .40 but most likely will use a Glock 19 or Sig P226

FatHobbit

Belly35;1067783 wrote:I think that some OC individual have a poor conception of the complexity of having accuracy with a hand gun. Remember that the slightest movement of the barrel produces a greater degree of missing the target. Incidentally, the math on this at 15 feet a pistol canted just five degrees will miss a human sized target.

Who of the OC has actually has fired a pistol (9MM and up) at a target or object?

What is your proficiency level with a hand gun?
(At 18 feet what is your average grouping radius for 8 rounds in a 6” bull’s-eye target taking your time). We all know what happens with an inexperience shooter in a rapped fire situation.

Why 9mm and up? I usually shoot .22 just because it's so much cheaper. And I have no idea of grouping or targets. We just plink at pop cans or milk jugs.

FatHobbit

Gblock;1067790 wrote:i think people have a poor conception of the deadliness of a crowbar

I knew a guy who was killed with a car muffler. I think you're underestimating the deadliness of a blow to the head with a metal object.

Belly35

Raw Dawgin' it;1067806 wrote:I'm going shooting this weekend for the first time in years. Any tips? They have hand guns from 9mm all the way up .45s. I'd like to try a .40 but most likely will use a Glock 19 or Sig P226

For a quick review go on YouTube (Todd Jarrett pistol shooting) for some quick pointer on how to hold the weapon, stances, shoulder position and trigger finger. Shooting a hand pistol like golf lots to remember and lot to perform just right for the perfect shoot and grouping

If you never fired a hand gun before I would suggest starting with a 9mm and get comfortable using it and work on getting a good grouping at 15 to 18 feet out.

I use a Sig P220 .45 try it before leaving the range …. 9MM vs .45 enjoy..
Just for fun rapped fire the Sig P220 .45 with a 8 rounds . You may not stay on target but you’ll go home feeling good.

DeadliestWarrior34

Gblock;1067790 wrote:i think people have a poor conception of the deadliness of a crowbar

I still think it was a sledgehammer.

Belly35

FatHobbit;1067813 wrote:Why 9mm and up? I usually shoot .22 just because it's so much cheaper. And I have no idea of grouping or targets. We just plink at pop cans or milk jugs.

I sometime will use a .22 also at the range for training. I suggested a 9mm because that is more of what is the weapon use for police and ccw in general.

Raw Dawgin' it

Belly35;1067829 wrote:For a quick review go on YouTube (Todd Jarrett pistol shooting) for some quick pointer on how to hold the weapon, stances, shoulder position and trigger finger. Shooting a hand pistol like golf lots to remember and lot to perform just right for the perfect shoot and grouping

If you never fired a hand gun before I would suggest starting with a 9mm and get comfortable using it and work on getting a good grouping at 15 to 18 feet out.

I use a Sig P220 .45 try it before leaving the range …. 9MM vs .45 enjoy..
Just for fun rapped fire the Sig P220 .45 with a 8 rounds . You may not stay on target but you’ll go home feeling good.

They have the P220 to rent. The only problem is you have to buy full boxes of ammo, so i might just stick to one gun. Depending how much the rounds are and if i can split a box with my buddy i'll try it.

Sonofanump

SnotBubbles;1067787 wrote:LOL. Jesus Belly! Quit starting a new thread for everything relevant to the guy with the crowbar thread!!!

What is going to be epic is ETB's spin off of this thread.

FatHobbit

DeadliestWarrior34;1067831 wrote:I still think it was a sledgehammer.

Maybe a conduit bender?

Belly35

Raw Dawgin' it;1067838 wrote:They have the P220 to rent. The only problem is you have to buy full boxes of ammo, so i might just stick to one gun. Depending how much the rounds are and if i can split a box with my buddy i'll try it.

General pricing of a box of 50 rounds .45 is $20.00 / 21.00 ( I get then little cheaper at Kames)

What range are you going to?

LJ

It was a utility bar

LJ

Raw Dawgin' it;1067806 wrote:I'm going shooting this weekend for the first time in years. Any tips? They have hand guns from 9mm all the way up .45s. I'd like to try a .40 but most likely will use a Glock 19 or Sig P226

The kick of a .40 is a pain the ass. Stick to 9mm or .45.

LJ

I'm a 3" group at 10 yards and 5" at 25 yards. If I can't hit that with a gun within 250 rounds, I sell the gun.

Belly35

LJ;1067864 wrote:I'm a 3" group at 10 yards and 5" at 25 yards. If I can't hit that with a gun within 250 rounds, I sell the gun.

Really? That good shooting What your pistol?

I never when beyond 35 feet .
At 15 feet my 8 round grouping is bullseye but just a little low/left of center, frustrated but I'm good with that.
At 35 feet still a good grouping 3" or so and still low/left a bit more..

said_aouita

Belly35;1067783 wrote:I think that some OC individual have a poor conception of the complexity of having accuracy with a hand gun. Remember that the slightest movement of the barrel produces a greater degree of missing the target. Incidentally, the math on this at 15 feet a pistol canted just five degrees will miss a human sized target.

Who of the OC has actually has fired a pistol (9MM and up) at a target or object?

What is your proficiency level with a hand gun?
(At 18 feet what is your average grouping radius for 8 rounds in a 6” bull’s-eye target taking your time). We all know what happens with an inexperience shooter in a rapped fire situation.

Have fired various hand guns of different caliber. Totally agree with you, they take a lot of practice.

I'd think anyone who's responsibilities include carrying a gun would take the necessary time to practice and become a marksman.
I know plenty of individuals who are not law enforcement officers with excellent hand gun skills. Not sure how many of them have been in a situation where their target was also armed and aiming back.

power i

I shot my husband's 9mm once. That was enough. Have no clue how accurate I was but I know how to load it and if you break in my house when he's not here, I will shoot it in your general direction. I think that's good enough.

Belly35

power i;1068078 wrote:I shot my husband's 9mm once. That was enough. Have no clue how accurate I was but I know how to load it and if you break in my house when he's not here, I will shoot it in your general direction. I think that's good enough.

That work! :laugh: Nothing like a few rounds in the general direction to bring some sence to a stupid individual

password

Belly35;1068361 wrote:That work! :laugh: Nothing like a few rounds in the general direction to bring some sence to a stupid individual

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sence

sence:
	1. This is how idiots spell sense, since they have no sense, they can't fucking spell it. 2. This misspelled word is also a form of since according to some idiot - English translations. <INSERT here MMORPG any>chat: Idiot: That doesn't make sence! Me: YOU don't make sense! "SENCE" IS NOT A FUCKING WORD, MORON

Belly35

password;1068370 wrote:http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sence

sence:

1. This is how idiots spell sense, since they have no sense, they can't fucking spell it.

2. This misspelled word is also a form of since according to some idiot - English translations.
<INSERT any MMORPG here>chat:
Idiot: That doesn't make sence!
Me: YOU don't make sense! "SENCE" IS NOT A FUCKING WORD, MORON

Thanks for the correction you nifo :laugh:

BRF

Good point in the original post, Belly! BRF has fired hand guns and not very successfully on the accuracy part. You are right, most people don't realize. I read somewhere that even police in a close-in shoot out have a hit percentage of only around 60%.

BAMABUCK

I shoot a couple of pistols quite often.I agree it is hard to be a crack shot with any hand gun.Practice is the key.I shoot two revolvers in .357 and a SW 9mm and a 1911 in .45ACP. I tend to shoot the 9 and my carry .357 the most because ammo is affordable and they are what I carry(read:can actually be concealed and comfortable to wear 12-14 hours a day). At the range I frequent the pistol berm is 10 meters posted but right at 28 feet in reality. 4-6 inch groups from varying positions is my norm with my strong hand, weak hand is less than acceptable but I am working on it. Muscle memory and sight picture are key in accuracy and can only be accomplished by lotsa' lead down range. By the way I practice with .38 special in my stubbie but always finish off any session with a cylinder of 158gr personal defence rounds in .357 cause thats whats in the tube for protection purposes.

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