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Fab1b

sweet thanks will have to check out tonight at work can't pull that up here!

SnotBubbles

Mohican00;1063813 wrote:sent

Send me it too. I'm always up for a good execution.

ernest_t_bass

What the hell, send it to me too.

sherm03

Fab4Runner;1063511 wrote:I watched it without the sound on and it wasn't that bad. Lotsa blood, but I've probably seen worse. Might watch it with sound once my show is over.

Gotta watch it with the sound on. I literally laughed out loud when they zoomed in on the dude's face, blood pouring from his nose, and a voice from off screen goes, "Allright, settle down!" like it was just some stunt or something.

Mohican00;1063806 wrote:Did you happen to see the video of the two guys executed -one by a chainsaw, the other a steak knife? I've got an iron stomach but that one kinda put me on the edge

I would also like this link...

chicago510

I laughed at them telling someone to call a doctor. Dude was dead within 5 seconds.

SnotBubbles

ccrunner609;1064410 wrote:why wouldnt you just post it here and label it.......its not like the other wasnt

As you wish. Here is the chainsaw/steak knife beheading video.

WARNING: THIS LINK IS EXTREMELY GRUESOME, GRAPHIC AND DEFINITELY NSFW. (I would NOT advise watching it)

http://www.theync.com/static_html/23...saw_media.html

Fab4Runner

sherm03;1064527 wrote:Gotta watch it with the sound on. I literally laughed out loud when they zoomed in on the dude's face, blood pouring from his nose, and a voice from off screen goes, "Allright, settle down!" like it was just some stunt or something.

I would also like this link...

Yeah I finally did. I didn't laugh out loud but some of the reactions were just weird. Then again, I can't even imagine how I'd react if I witnessed something like that. Who knows.

dwccrew

xKoToVxSyNdRoMe;1063525 wrote:Pretty sure he was innocent and still found guilty. I believe it meant some major hard time as well.

There is no proof that he was innocent, he was found guilty. However, even if he was innocent, why would he kill himself? I doubt that he was completely innocent in this entire thing. If he was innocent you work the appeals process. BTW, his co-defendant served a 1 year sentence and is back in politics according to the Budd Dwyer wiki page.

If only Mr. Dwyer could have waited a day and received his sentence and then appealed and proved his innocense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer

chicago510;1063533 wrote:First time I've heard of this. Did he kill himself in public to prove a point? I dont get why he was having a press conference if he was convicted.

In PA law, at the time, there was a loophole that convicted politicians could still serve up until they were sentenced. Dwyer killed himself one day before his sentencing ensuring his family a $1.28 million pension payout.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer

OSH

dwccrew;1065799 wrote:There is no proof that he was innocent, he was found guilty. However, even if he was innocent, why would he kill himself? I doubt that he was completely innocent in this entire thing. If he was innocent you work the appeals process. BTW, his co-defendant served a 1 year sentence and is back in politics according to the Budd Dwyer wiki page.

If only Mr. Dwyer could have waited a day and received his sentence and then appealed and proved his innocense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer

In PA law, at the time, there was a loophole that convicted politicians could still serve up until they were sentenced. Dwyer killed himself one day before his sentencing ensuring his family a $1.28 million pension payout.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer

Why not include EVERYTHING in the source that you cited?

In the film, William Smith, the man whose testimony led to the conviction of Dwyer, stated that he had lied under oath in order to get a better sentencing for himself, thus revealing the accusations against Dwyer to be false.

dwccrew

OSH;1065804 wrote:Why not include EVERYTHING in the source that you cited?

And? Just because the guy lied about some of the stuff doesn't mean that Dwyer was totally innocent of everything. An innocent man doesn't kill himself, he appeals and uses the system. The guy killed himself before he was even sentenced, something is not right there. He was involved somehow, not to the degree that he was accused, but he was involved.

OSH

dwccrew;1065822 wrote:And? Just because the guy lied about some of the stuff doesn't mean that Dwyer was totally innocent of everything. An innocent man doesn't kill himself, he appeals and uses the system. The guy killed himself before he was even sentenced, something is not right there. He was involved somehow, not to the degree that he was accused, but he was involved.

Could it be, the pressures were just way too much for him to handle? It's hard to tell.

There have been numerous people sentenced and thrown in the clanker, even executed, while still being innocent. At the same time, people pointed fingers and convicted people guilty even when the innocence was still there.

That stuff happens.

DeyDurkie5

SnotBubbles;1064833 wrote:As you wish. Here is the chainsaw/steak knife beheading video.

WARNING: THIS LINK IS EXTREMELY GRUESOME, GRAPHIC AND DEFINITELY NSFW. (I would NOT advise watching it)

http://www.theync.com/static_html/23...saw_media.html

i don't want to do it, but i do...i'll have to wait until i get some pot for that one

sherm03

DeyDurkie5;1065944 wrote:i don't want to do it, but i do...i'll have to wait until i get some pot for that one

I watched it, but really wish I hadn't...definitely felt like I was going to throw up watching that one.

DeyDurkie5

sherm03;1066103 wrote:I watched it, but really wish I hadn't...definitely felt like I was going to throw up watching that one.

that bad??

SnotBubbles

DeyDurkie5;1066686 wrote:that bad??

I didn't feel like I was going to throw up. But it's pretty bad. Man up, watch it.

sherm03

DeyDurkie5;1066686 wrote:that bad??

It was hard to watch.

SnotBubbles;1066688 wrote:I didn't feel like I was going to throw up. But it's pretty bad. Man up, watch it.

Agreed you almost have to watch it. The chainsaw wasn't as bad. The knife was pretty tough to get through.

Fab1b

The part that was crazy was as they were taking to the first guy with the chainsaw the other dude (now I know he was bound and couldn't go anywhere or anything) just basically sat there straight faced. Guess he knew he was doomed and confined to that fact but I would have been freaking the fuck out!

Also I haven't read back up through most of these posts but does any that watched it know what they were saying or why they were being killed?

SnotBubbles

sherm03;1066835 wrote:Agreed you almost have to watch it. The chainsaw wasn't as bad. The knife was pretty tough to get through.

Yeah, I agree with that. Watching him lying there...his hands bound behind his back and moving around as they were cutting through his neck...that was kind of hard to watch. That's how I guesstimated when he died...when his hands/fingers stopped moving around.

Fab1b

I was thinking the chainsaw clipped his arm as well.

dwccrew

OSH;1065863 wrote:Could it be, the pressures were just way too much for him to handle? It's hard to tell.

There have been numerous people sentenced and thrown in the clanker, even executed, while still being innocent. At the same time, people pointed fingers and convicted people guilty even when the innocence was still there.

That stuff happens.

I realize it happens, I just don't believe it is the case in this situation. The guy lied about the length of Dwyer's involvement. This doesn't mean Dwyer was not involved. Also, he hadn't even been sentenced yet. I just find the timing odd. I realize politicians are usually squeeky clean, but I think in this case that he was involved somehow.

Fab1b;1066844 wrote:The part that was crazy was as they were taking to the first guy with the chainsaw the other dude (now I know he was bound and couldn't go anywhere or anything) just basically sat there straight faced. Guess he knew he was doomed and confined to that fact but I would have been freaking the **** out!

Also I haven't read back up through most of these posts but does any that watched it know what they were saying or why they were being killed?

They were saying "did you catch that game last night? I can't believe we lost in overtime! Fuckers!!!!"

Mulva

Wow. I wasn't expecting so much discussion about chainsaw snuff videos when I clicked this thread.

Whether Dwyer was guilty or not, I think his message about improving the justice system is (was) a pretty good one. It's obviously terrific compared to many other countries, but it has some pretty major deficiencies in my opinion.

I Am Ahab

Wow, that was rough. Kinda wish I hadn't watch the beheading video. Had to look away shortly after they started hacking through the second guys throughout with that knife.

Shit like that will make you lose faith in humanity, eh?

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