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Is There an Act Worse than Raping a Child?

  • Manhattan Buckeye
    I Wear Pants;962955 wrote:How is sexual abuse more senseless than murder in the case of a child?
    If I have a 14 year old kid threatening my wife or children, I can see how one could respond in an overly-protective manner that could result in a murder charge.

    In NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM am I going to get my jollies off raping a 14 year old boy, regardless of what he did, who he is or what he looks like.

    Did you just really ask that question?
  • Sykotyk
    For instance, if you're a father, and have a 9-year-old boy. It's perfectly justifiable to me if you walk in on some pervert having his way with your son to kill him. Not call the police, not tackle him to the ground and yell for help, but to just end his life right there. And I think most jurors wouldn't find you guilty of murder.
  • Skyhook79
    Little Danny;962711 wrote:A spin-off of the whole Penn State saga.

    In this day and age where was is right and wrong is sometimes blurred; is there any action that is on its face, so vile, reprehensible that the individual deserves no mercy?

    Can you rank anything over the alleged acts of one Gerald A. Sandusky?

    If its a woman (especially a teacher) with a 10 year old boy its applauded and envied on here.
  • LJ
    Sykotyk;963021 wrote:For instance, if you're a father, and have a 9-year-old boy. It's perfectly justifiable to me if you walk in on some pervert having his way with your son to kill him. Not call the police, not tackle him to the ground and yell for help, but to just end his life right there. And I think most jurors wouldn't find you guilty of murder.
    In a country where a lot of people think that instead of protecting yourself that you should call the cops and wait for them to get there while being raped/murdered, I am not so sure that is something I would count on.
  • Dr Winston O'Boogie
    I don't think the argument as to "what is the worst thing" is relevant. I personally can't think of anything worse than raping a 10 year old, but that's me. And to the person that posted about his friend getting drunk and making a mistake - while I don't know the details of that, poor judgement with a willing 17 year old, while wrong, is quite different than raping a 10 year old in a shower at work.

    Paterno is not going to get through this cleanly and for that I am dissapointed. Like most, I respect him. But this story is horrible. That he didn't know the details of the rape or never asked for them is hard to believe. That he never followed up once he reported this, and that he tolerated a pedophile's presence in his offices for years after this was known is incomprehensible. A very sad story.
  • like_that
    LJ;963085 wrote:In a country where a lot of people think that instead of protecting yourself that you should call the cops and wait for them to get there while being raped/murdered, I am not so sure that is something I would count on.
    I sadly agree with this.
  • pmoney25
    Killing a child? Parents who kill their children.
  • 4cards
    Little Danny;962711 wrote:A spin-off of the whole Penn State saga.

    In this day and age where was is right and wrong is sometimes blurred; is there any action that is on its face, so vile, reprehensible that the individual deserves no mercy?

    Can you rank anything over the alleged acts of one Gerald A. Sandusky?
    NO MERCY, NONE! This piece of $hit should never see the light of day.

    The fact the Joe P turned a deaf eye to this when he knew the right thing to do was get the authorities involved and chose not to makes me think less of him as a person...
  • Scarlet_Buckeye
    I'm a little amazed at how people are being so quick to say that killing is not worse than raping. Don't get me wrong, neither of the two are 'good' by any means, but at least with the one you still have your life.
  • Sonofanump
    June18;962739 wrote:I have a good friend that has been in prison for 5 years and has 2 more left because he got drunk and made a mistake with a minor.
    Just for clarification. Age of consent in Ohio is 16. So your good friend made a mistake with someone 15 years or or less?
  • SnotBubbles
    I'm on the side that murdering a child is far worse then raping a child. And both are horrible. But I'd rather still be able to raise my children, scarred or not, then have to visit them at the grave every day.
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    Scarlet_Buckeye;963139 wrote:I'm a little amazed at how people are being so quick to say that killing is not worse than raping. Don't get me wrong, neither of the two are 'good' by any means, but at least with the one you still have your life.
    Was it Clint Eastwood that said in a film, "Some people deserve killing?" Even if that is incorrect most murders involve crimes of other sorts, or heat of the moment instances. It isn't excusable, but can be understandable.

    I don't know how anyone can defend rape, particularly with a child. What type of monster can even get an erection with a young boy?
  • Fab1b
    Scarlet_Buckeye;963139 wrote:I'm a little amazed at how people are being so quick to say that killing is not worse than raping. Don't get me wrong, neither of the two are 'good' by any means, but at least with the one you still have your life.

    Most people that have been raped or sexually abused don't want their life I'd imagine.
  • OSH
    I was in Boston one summer and the radio show I was listening to was talking about this same topic.

    They called child molesters "diddlers." They basically said it was the worst possible thing (it came down to it and murder as well as rape). Why? They said that those children have to live with it for the rest of their lives -- and living with that does not always turn out positively. Whereas, murder is still bad, but that person doesn't have to live with it (they're dead). And rape is bad too, but a rape of a 40-year-old is someone who has lived their lives almost fully -- yes, there is still time left, but nothing compared to a 10-year-old.

    Thinking about it like that, I can see how child molestation/rape is the worst. Now, that doesn't excuse murder or rape, not the least bit. But it does say, a child molester/rapist basically ruins a person's life, and that child will never be the same. They really related it to a type of "murder" because the person's life is ruined.
  • TedSheckler
    This thread is hot. I have to go jerk off now.
  • ManO'War
    If this Sandusky clown did what he is being accused of, I hope the fathers of the victims hunt him down and not only kill him, but make him suffer beforehand.
  • enigmaax
    Unprovoked or senseless murder is the worst. Regardless of how bad life turns out for victims of rape/sexual abuse, the chance to overcome it is more valuable than having no say in whether you recover.
  • Scarlet_Buckeye
    Fab1b;963229 wrote:Most people that have been raped or sexually abused don't want their life I'd imagine.
    Don't get me wrong, I don't want to take it up the pooper, but if I did, I know I'd still want my life.
  • Belly35
    Little Danny;962711 wrote:A spin-off of the whole Penn State saga.

    In this day and age where was is right and wrong is sometimes blurred; is there any action that is on its face, so vile, reprehensible that the individual deserves no mercy?

    Can you rank anything over the alleged acts of one Gerald A. Sandusky?
    repeating the act over and over ....
  • FatHobbit
    Scarlet_Buckeye;963550 wrote:Don't get me wrong, I don't want to take it up the pooper, but if I did, I know I'd still want my life.
    If rape was inevitable, couldn't you just relax and enjoy it?
  • Belly35
    thePITman;962713 wrote:Killing someone?
    You may want to rethink that for a few seconds....
  • Pick6
    Skyhook79;963071 wrote:If its a woman (especially a teacher) with a 10 year old boy its applauded and envied on here.
    +1
  • Mulva
    enigmaax;963504 wrote:Unprovoked or senseless murder is the worst. Regardless of how bad life turns out for victims of rape/sexual abuse, the chance to overcome it is more valuable than having no say in whether you recover.
    That's a good way to put it.
  • Thread Bomber
    In response to the original question posed:

    Yes... Rape the child, then kill the child, Then rape it again.

    I could find more scenarios if you would like.
  • GoChiefs
    Scarlet_Buckeye;963550 wrote:Don't get me wrong, I don't want to take it up the pooper, but if I did, I know I'd still want my life.
    Some don't, and they take their own life in their late teens/young adult life. My wife works for a company that finds home for kids that have been sexually and physically abused. Some of the shit she used to come home and tell me was down right sickening. It got to the point where I told her sorry, I don't want to discuss it. Keep that shit at work. Seems like every year, her company has 2 or 3 kids that they were able to find homes for when they were a young child, end up killing themselves because of it. It truly does fuck a lot of them up for life.