sleeper wrote:
Mr Pat wrote:
Honestly fellows there is no way we are going to be able to prove it. That's why they call it faith.
Boris, I'm sorry but I really have no way of answering that. I really have enjoyed our discussion but I have no way of knowing anything about what I'm going to be able to do in Heaven or what it's going to be like.
Why rely on faith? Why is "faith" good enough? Why would God want us to have to resort to faith in order to "save us"? Why not give people on Earth DEFINITE proof of his existence so we may follow in the footsteps of Jesus and live a great life praising his existence?
Why rely on faith? You really on faith a lot more than you realize. Every building you walk into, you have no idea if it's going to collapse or your car is going to die on your way to work, the pets you own aren't going to attack you. You have no idea if anything of things are going to happen, but you have faith the builders put the building together right, the car will run properly, and your pet's instincts don't take over.
I feel there is more to save us then just faith alone. I think you also have to be a good person and faith doesn't give carte blanche to act anyway you see fit (some differ). As for definitive proof, one could say God did that with Jesus. That gets into if you believe Jesus existed (I do), and if He was the Son of God (I do.) If Jesus was the son of God, then you could consider that proof, because he's God. There's an old saying, "For the believer no answer is necessary, for the skeptic no answer is possible."
If you want answers and look hard enough you can decide what you believe. I don't think God wants people to follow him because there is no way around it. I think God wants you to decide for yourself what you believe and if you want to follow Him or not.
"For the believer no answer is necessary, for the skeptic no answer is possible."