Kings Island Area Outback Serves Alcohol to 4 year old

• Little Danny

  

  http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20110908/NEWS01/110908006/Local-Outback-served-alcohol-4-year-old?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE
• Ironman92

  

  Is that the Outback you can see from the ride that lifts you way up....lets you hang a moment and then drops your ass?
  
  Bloomin onion for me....a beer for the 4 year old!
• Mulva

  

  Uptight Bitch;888266 wrote:I am just pretty disappointed right now because here I am trying to teach my kids alcohol is not good

  It was a sample sized portion of a mixed drink. Thank god nobody required medical attention.
• wildcats20

  

  Mulva;888593 wrote:It was a sample sized portion of a mixed drink. Thank god nobody required medical attention.

  So it's ok?
• I Wear Pants

  Actually if the parents were the ones who purchased the alcohol and gave it to the kids technically it is alright as parents are allowed to furnish alcohol to their kids. However, that doesn't mean child services or any other group can't have something to say about it especially if it involves kids that young.
  
  But this seems like a case where the company is really trying to do the right thing. I don't think they were trying to double back on the food pantry promise but just assumed the story would get out eventually anyway and didn't want to look like they were buying silence.
• thePITman

  

  I am with the family on this aspect: Alcohol served to children is wrong! Anybody under 21 should not drink alcohol.
  
  I am with the restaurant on this aspect: It was the right move to fire the employee and pay for the meal.
  
  I am against the family on this aspect: Asking for a 2nd donation, or asking to split the donations up... I'm sorry. If someone is doing you a favor by donating something, you don't get picky.
• wildcats20

  

  thePITman;888800 wrote:I am with the family on this aspect: Alcohol served to children is wrong! Anybody under 21 should not drink alcohol.
  
  I am with the restaurant on this aspect: It was the right move to fire the employee and pay for the meal.
  
  I am against the family on this aspect: Asking for a 2nd donation, or asking to split the donations up... I'm sorry. If someone is doing you a favor by donating something, you don't get picky.

  It depends on what the REAL story is. If the waitress really let the kids take the samples off the tray, then yes it was wrong. BUT if an adult took the sample off the tray and then handed it to a kid, then that is 100% on the parents/adults.
• thePITman

  

  wildcats20;888804 wrote:It depends on what the REAL story is. If the waitress really let the kids take the samples off the tray, then yes it was wrong. BUT if an adult took the sample off the tray and then handed it to a kid, then that is 100% on the parents/adults.

  If they were told the samples were alcohol-free then grabbed one and handed it to the kids, who is at fault? I'd think the server who misinformed the customers, but both parties have some part of the blame, for sure. I don't drink, but even I know when a weird-looking drink is likely to have alcohol in it. Better to play it safe.
• justincredible

  

  Harping on your kids all the time that alcohol is bad is only going to lead to binge drinking when they are in high school and college. :thumbup:
• Steel Valley Football

  That's why I'm going to drill into my kids' heads how wonderful alcohol is. Heroin, too.
• justincredible

  

  Steel Valley Football;888920 wrote:That's why I'm going to drill into my kids' heads how wonderful alcohol is. Heroin, too.

  Well, yeah. That's obviously what I meant.
• thePITman

  

  Alcohol isn't bad. It's just illegal for kids under the age of 21. Stealing is illegal too, and discouraging our kids from stealing doesn't make them want to steal. Why should alcohol be different?
• Steel Valley Football

  justincredible;888926 wrote:Well, yeah. That's obviously what I meant.

  
  That was my sarcastic way of saying I disagree w your statement. Or, more specifically, that I don't think you can prove that assertion.
• Steel Valley Football

  thePITman;888986 wrote:Alcohol isn't bad. It's just illegal for kids under the age of 21. Stealing is illegal too, and discouraging our kids from stealing doesn't make them want to steal. Why should alcohol be different?

  
  You've confused a moral issue (stealing) with a health/safety issue.
• justincredible

  

  Steel Valley Football;888992 wrote:That was my sarcastic way of saying I disagree w your statement. Or, more specifically, that I don't think you can prove that assertion.

  I don't really care to prove it.
  
  I relate it to kids who have super restrictive parents growing up and then the kids end up going wild when they get just a little bit of freedom.
• thePITman

  

  Steel Valley Football;889000 wrote:You've confused a moral issue (stealing) with a health/safety issue.

  No, I haven't. Both are legal issues - theft is illegal and punishable by law, and drinking under the age of 21 is illegal, punishable by law (but for some reason not enforced).
• Mulva

  

  wildcats20;888594 wrote:So it's ok?

  It's not newsworthy and not worth freaking out about. It was a mistake, the restaurant apologized and covered the tab. Why should it go any farther than that?
• Steel Valley Football

  thePITman;889035 wrote:No, I haven't. Both are legal issues - theft is illegal and punishable by law, and drinking under the age of 21 is illegal, punishable by law (but for some reason not enforced).

  
  Yes, you have. Theft is a crime against property. Underage drinking laws are set forth mostly as societal safety issues and can differ by culture and country.
  
  Regardless, your initial point was off the mark. The social aspects of drinking affect today's youth much more than the "social aspects of theft", as if that is even a term. Drinking is socially acceptable; theft is not. Furthermore, there is not a legal age that permits a person to commit theft like there is a legal age to drink. There are 42 states that allow a minor to drink for various reasons. As of yet, I know of no states that allow a person to commit theft, adult or otherwise.
• Steel Valley Football

  justincredible;889014 wrote:I don't really care to prove it.
  
  I relate it to kids who have super restrictive parents growing up and then the kids end up going wild when they get just a little bit of freedom.

  Well, that's a different statement altogether. Parents can not be super restrictive and still extol the dangers of underage drinking.
• I Wear Pants

  thePITman;889035 wrote:No, I haven't. Both are legal issues - theft is illegal and punishable by law, and drinking under the age of 21 is illegal, punishable by law (but for some reason not enforced).

  Theft is inherently wrong though according to almost all theories of ethics and morals. Drinking is not. And drinking under the age of 21 isn't illegal if the parent is the one giving alcohol to the child.
  
  Either way, you have confused a moral issue with a purely legal/health issue as drinking is not something that is bad or frowned upon by most in our society or really by any theory of moral ethics. It is understood by most though that there are significant harms with drinking irresponsibly and without limitations and that, and only that is why we have a drinking age. Same reason we have a voting age, etc. Now the reasons for it being 21 are really stupid but that's a different argument.
• ts1227

  

  I Wear Pants;889239 wrote:Either way, you have confused a moral issue with a purely legal/health issue...

  
  This happens a lot. All of those confusions were then placed in a document. It's called the Ohio Revised Code.
  
  You can thank that one really powerful dumbass family values group in Cincy.
• rydawg5

  in 50 years, a 4 year old will be served one french fry and itllmake the front page of a news site