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• Fly4Fun

  

  http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/after_judge_blocks_law_banning_student-teacher_online_chats/?utm_source=maestro&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=tech_monthly
  
  I bet a few students and teachers were sweating this one out.
• FatHobbit

  

  Hmmm, I think it's a bad idea for teachers and students to be facebook friends, but it seems even more dumb to make it illegal.
• Fly4Fun

  

  FatHobbit;879088 wrote:Hmmm, I think it's a bad idea for teachers and students to be facebook friends, but it seems even more dumb to make it illegal.

  I agree with both statements. I never accepted a facebook friend request from any of the kids I coached in swimming until they had made it off to college.
• brutus161

  

  Fly4Fun;879089 wrote:I agree with both statements. I never accepted a facebook friend request from any of the kids I coached in swimming until they had made it off to college.

  I pretty much do the same thing. I won't accept a request from someone that I put in the Navy, until after they graduate bootcamp.
• justincredible

  

  FatHobbit;879088 wrote:Hmmm, I think it's a bad idea for teachers and students to be facebook friends, but it seems even more dumb to make it illegal.

  Yep. Common sense says it's a bad idea to be friends with a student, we shouldn't need a law for it.
• Belly35

  

  I never accept OC individaul as friends to my facebook .... I follow COPPA gudelines
• dwccrew

  

  FatHobbit;879088 wrote:Hmmm, I think it's a bad idea for teachers and students to be facebook friends, but it seems even more dumb to make it illegal.

  Just more of the "big brother" government mentality that our country is shifting towards. They want to protect us from ourselves, otherwise it would be chaos!:rolleyes:
• password

  

  I think that if she is 18 and has a great body, you make her your friend on facebook.
• thavoice

  I know a few teachers who dont use their last name on facebook so kids dont try to friend them, or stalk them. they may use their middle name, or their mom's maiden name and such.
• FatHobbit

  

  password;879221 wrote:I think that if she is 18 and has a great body, you make her your friend on facebook.

  I would think that would be more of a reason NOT to friend them.
• Heretic

  

  FatHobbit;879227 wrote:I would think that would be more of a reason NOT to friend them.

  Buzzkill, dude. BUZZ. KILL.
• ts1227

  

  thavoice;879226 wrote:I know a few teachers who dont use their last name on facebook so kids dont try to friend them, or stalk them. they may use their middle name, or their mom's maiden name and such.

  First and Middle is the one I see the most from my teacher friends.
• FatHobbit

  

  Heretic;879241 wrote:Buzzkill, dude. BUZZ. KILL.

  Lol
• thavoice

  As a student, why would ya want to have teachers as your friends on facebook? Why would you wanna open yourself up for the adults to know what you are doing?
  
  I guess the culture has changed.
  
  Back in the day when I went to HS you didnt really care to have any contact with a teacher outside of school. If you saw them out in public ya may say hi to them, but if ya saw them we would make sure to straighten up and no do anything they wouldnt approve of....wouldnt cuss, or anything like that. It was almost like you were still in the classroom is how we always acted. Hell..I still call a few teachers Mr____and I have been outta school almost 20 years.
• password

  

  FatHobbit;879227 wrote:I would think that would be more of a reason NOT to friend them.

  Why?
• password

  

  If you are a high school teacher and act like you are all grown up and don't post stupid shit on your facebook, why can't you be friends with your students? Now if you are out at the bars drunk on the weekends and flirting with every girl that has a heartbeat then you should not be friends with anyone under 21, nor should you be a teacher. Some high school teachers are only 4-6 years older than their students and actually are friends with them outside of school because of family or sports, should they not be allowed to talk to each other anymore? It is all about respect and common sense when using facebook.
• bigkahuna

  thavoice;879256 wrote:
  Back in the day when I went to HS you didnt really care to have any contact with a teacher outside of school. If you saw them out in public ya may say hi to them, but if ya saw them we would make sure to straighten up and no do anything they wouldnt approve of....wouldnt cuss, or anything like that. It was almost like you were still in the classroom is how we always acted. Hell..I still call a few teachers Mr____and I have been outta school almost 20 years.

  It's completely reversed now. Teachers will "straighten up" now, if they see a student or a student's parent in public. I don't have a lot to worry about because I live 25mins away from my district. However, I've been out with some friends and have actually heard this "****, that's one of my kids' parents/one of my kids...."
• FatHobbit

  

  password;879278 wrote:Why?

  Because teachers fucking students is a bad thing, even if they are 18. Why would you even want to play around with that if you were a teacher?
• bigkahuna

  password;879291 wrote:If you are a high school teacher and act like you are all grown up and don't post stupid **** on your facebook, why can't you be friends with your students? Now if you are out at the bars drunk on the weekends and flirting with every girl that has a heartbeat then you should not be friends with anyone under 21, nor should you be a teacher. Some high school teachers are only 4-6 years older than their students and actually are friends with them outside of school because of family or sports, should they not be allowed to talk to each other anymore? It is all about respect and common sense when using facebook.

  Having a prior relationship with a student before the classroom is completely different that starting a relationship with a student after the classroom. That's happened to me recently. I was friends with some parents and had one of their kids in my class. Granted the kid was 8 years old, but I'm not going to pretend like I don't know the kid.
• Fly4Fun

  

  bigkahuna;879295 wrote:Having a prior relationship with a student before the classroom is completely different that starting a relationship with a student after the classroom. That's happened to me recently. I was friends with some parents and had one of their kids in my class. Granted the kid was 8 years old, but I'm not going to pretend like I don't know the kid.

  You had a relationship with an 8 year old and now teaching the kid? That's real messed up dude...
• password

  

  FatHobbit;879294 wrote:Because teachers fucking students is a bad thing, even if they are 18. Why would you even want to play around with that if you were a teacher?

  Because they are friends does not mean they are fucking them. I am not saying that you should want your kid going on weekend trips with the teacher but they can be friends.
• FatHobbit

  

  password;879325 wrote:Because they are friends does not mean they are fucking them. I am not saying that you should want your kid going on weekend trips with the teacher but they can be friends.

  You said if she was 18 and had a great body that was a reason to friend them. I'm assuming if you just wanted to be friends you wouldn't care if she had a great body.
  
  But if I were a teacher I would think it would be a terrible idea to be facebook friends with a student in my class. People have been fired for stuff they put on facebook, and I would think just to be safe you would not want to cross that line. (Although I think it's ridiculous that someone could be fired for something they did outside of work.)
• bigkahuna

  Fly4Fun;879298 wrote:You had a relationship with an 8 year old and now teaching the kid? That's real messed up dude...

  Really...
  
  Should I use friendship or prior knowledge of existence? LOL.
  
  No. I am friends with some people. They're in their late late 20s/early 30s, and I am 25. They're child is 8 years old and in 3rd grade. Obviously I know the kid outside of school because of the friendship with the parents. My point is that my situation is different; even if I was older and the friends' kid was 17 and a Junior. Now, becoming friends with the student after they have entered the classroom with no pre-existing relationship with someone outside of school (go to the same church, neighbors....) is a different story and wrong.
  
  A friend of mine taught HS English in NW Ohio for 4 years and is currently 26 years old. He recently moved out to the West Coast but friended some of his students on facebook before he left. I don't see a problem with this because they no longer have that teacher-student bond. As long as the kid is in school, I personally don't think it's ok. Teachers who use facebook/twitter as a classroom resource is something I don't agree with either.
• Fly4Fun

  

  bigkahuna;879427 wrote:Really...
  
  Should I use friendship or prior knowledge of existence? LOL.
  
  No. I am friends with some people. They're in their late late 20s/early 30s, and I am 25. They're child is 8 years old and in 3rd grade. Obviously I know the kid outside of school because of the friendship with the parents. My point is that my situation is different; even if I was older and the friends' kid was 17 and a Junior. Now, becoming friends with the student after they have entered the classroom with no pre-existing relationship with someone outside of school (go to the same church, neighbors....) is a different story and wrong.
  
  A friend of mine taught HS English in NW Ohio for 4 years and is currently 26 years old. He recently moved out to the West Coast but friended some of his students on facebook before he left. I don't see a problem with this because they no longer have that teacher-student bond. As long as the kid is in school, I personally don't think it's ok. Teachers who use facebook/twitter as a classroom resource is something I don't agree with either.

  I was just being a dick... but didn't feel like using the wink emoticon because the new one is pretty dumb looking.
• justincredible

  

  Fly4Fun;879580 wrote:I was just being a dick... but didn't feel like using the wink emoticon because the new one is pretty dumb looking.