Supplement Questions

• BR1986FB

  I Wear Pants;823773 wrote:^^^ This.
  
  Things like creatine can help with recovery and such. But like anyone who knows what they're talking about will tell you the overall diet and your workout routine itself are far more important.

  
  Yep. Said it before...ya eat shit, you make shit (physique).
• Automatik

  

  baseball4;823677 wrote:I am looking for some sort of supplement for working out. I want something that is that helps with weight loss/toning. I do not want to body build. I'm not looking to get huge. I just want to cut some weight and maybe get my athletic look back. I don't know a lot about these kind of things anymore. I used to take creatine when I was playing ball, but I don't think that's something that'd be necessary for what I want right now.
  
  Anyone know of/take anything that you would recommend?

  
  First and foremost....get your diet and workout regime sorted.
  
  As for supplements....maybe some whey protein (low fat) and some over the counter fat burners. I like the VPX brand. They aren't quite as good as the old stuff, but they get you going. I take the Redline Black on Blue capsules now and they do the trick.
• BR1986FB

  Automatik;823782 wrote:First and foremost....get your diet and workout regime sorted.
  
  As for supplements....maybe some whey protein (low fat) and some over the counter fat burners. I like the VPX brand. They aren't quite as good as the old stuff, but they get you going. I take the Redline Black on Blue capsules now and they do the trick.

  
  VPX Meltdown is the shit as far as thermogenics go.
• Automatik

  

  BR1986FB;823784 wrote:VPX Meltdown is the shit as far as thermogenics go.

  
  Ever try the Liquid Clenbutrx? Nasty stuff, but also effective.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Lol. There goes CC609 again, making sure everyone gets how awesome he is. CC, you are your biggest fan.
• Automatik

  

  ernest_t_bass;823800 wrote:Lol. There goes CC609 again, making sure everyone gets how awesome he is. CC, you are your biggest fan.

  
  lol....glory days!!
• jpake1

  

  Nothing beats eating correctly and working out. Focus on your diet first and foremost. I'm not sure what your diet is, but even cutting back 75% on fast food, soda, takeout, and dessert can lead to big changes within several weeks. If the previously mentioned are actually problem areas something as simple as supplementing with a protein shake is a much better alternative. Pick up some ON gold standard and take a couple shakes a day. If youre looking for a bit of a shortcut, try CLA or l-carnitine to help the process. If you want to cheat, try Oxy Elite Pro. Do all of the previously mentioned and you'll see bad ass results.
• tigerballonline

  No such thing as healthy eating these days. I take MNS 3 by Advocare, not a diet plan, but a nutrition system that supplements the things that people do nto get in every day eating. If its good enough for Drew Brees and Colt McCoy, its good enough for me.
• Automatik

  

  tigerballonline;823862 wrote:No such thing as healthy eating these days.

  
  lol wat?
• BR1986FB

  Automatik;823789 wrote:Ever try the Liquid Clenbutrx? Nasty stuff, but also effective.

  
  Haven't tried but have heard good things.
• I Am Ahab

  Eat a clean diet (lean meats, low sugar fruits, veggies, cut out sugar and white breads). Drink a protein shake after you lift (either a pre-mixed or your own homemade like pb and milk).
  
  If you want to use a supplement go for creatine. It's cheap and its always the #1 supplement listed. It'll help you make strength and thus muscle gains. Also take a multivitamin and if you wanna go for another supplement go for the amino acids.
  
  Don't overdo the cardio as it will burn up muscle if you do too much.
  
  The key is finding that perfect balance of eating enough calories to support muscle growth without having any calories left over to gain fat. Just keep an eye on your physique, weigh yourself and measure your waist often. If you are gaining weight but your waist isn't growing you're doing it right.
• BR1986FB

  ccrunner609;823778 wrote: There is no doubt in my mind that if the guy did what I do he would cut up quicker then your hardcore weightlifting.

  
  Actually consistent weight training will trump cardio, especially distance running, for long term sustained weight loss/getting ripped. Running sprints along with weights might "cut you up quicker" (HIIT) but not distance running. If anything, distance running will promote a "skinny fat" type of body.
• Devils Advocate

  

  ccrunner609;823757 wrote: I am 170 at age 38 and still look like a HS kid with his shirt off.

  You dumn ass! That's not the mirror you are looking at. It is a large computor screen. STOP LOOKING AT KIDDY PORN!
• BR1986FB

  ccrunner609;824574 wrote:really? Thats why my 2 time muscle-mania champion brother in law did 40-45 minutes of cardio a day during his cut phase? Your idea of "skinny-fat" is funny. I run and lift and dont look "skinny-fat" at all....

  
  You may be the exception but most scrawny ass distance runners ARE skinny fat. All that cardio is eating away at valuable muscle and leaving them looking thin but "fat" at the same time.
  
  You'll be hard pressed to find many distance runners/marathoners with 6 pack abs.
  
  I'm stil laughing at you your "you wouldn't last 5 minutes with me" comment from yesterday so I'm taking most, if not all, of what you say with a grain of salt.
• I Am Ahab

  Cc phagboy, R u retarded? Yeah, I thought so. Dude wants to get ripped. To be ripped you have to have little bodyfat AND MUSCLE. Go run your laps. But to be ripped you need to build some muscle. On top of that sustaining muscle mass n turn keeps away the fat provided you keep your diet clean.
  
  Ripped doesn't mean looking like an Ethiopian. To be ripped you need muscle which implies bodybuilding. You're wrong everyone here knows it. Go gay out at tbe track and leave the advice on this subject to the the rest of us who know what we r talking about.
• Automatik

  

  6 pack abs are made in the kitchen anyway.
  
  People are too quick to turn to supplements to get results without focusing enough on their diet.
• sleeper

  

  Anyone that wants to be "ripped" has a low self esteem, no life, and no job with a salary. I'll take someone who's fit via cardio than someone who thinks they are cool because they can squat 400 pounds.
• I Am Ahab

  Now, you don't need to spend hrs in the gym. My weight traing routine last 20 minutes at most and I do minimal cardio to sustain to protect the muscle I build and keep away the fat. Drinking a protein shake after lifting and eating a clean diet is bad advice for someone who's trying to get ripped? Okay, you Definately know what you're talking about. Have fun being a 40 yr old skinny fat guy.
• BR1986FB

  sleeper;824602 wrote:Anyone that wants to be "ripped" has a low self esteem, no life, and no job with a salary. I'll take someone who's fit via cardio than someone who thinks they are cool because they can squat 400 pounds.

  
  Not about "being cool." It's about being healthy. Having a lower bodyfat percentage is going to be healthier than being fat.
  
  I guess I'll get have to take my chances building healthy muscle over this fallacy of the "healthy" chronic cardio when we are seeing a bunch of these "healthy" former marathoners dropping over dead (from HEART ATTACKS) in their 50's from the constant beatings they have put their body through.
  
  And if you think that lifting heavy isn't giving the old ticker a good workout, you're sadly mistaken.
• I Am Ahab

  P.S. CC, I'm 170 lbs with a 30 inch waist and you're over the hill. Who do you think he's gonna listen to when asking advice on how to get ripped? Suck it.
• I Wear Pants

  sleeper;824602 wrote:Anyone that wants to be "ripped" has a low self esteem, no life, and no job with a salary. I'll take someone who's fit via cardio than someone who thinks they are cool because they can squat 400 pounds.

  This, I've always been about getting as fit as I can which means being strong but having very good cardio. I've never seen the appeal of being super huge. Especially when you see how those guys do in athletic events, they gas right away.
  

  BR1986FB;824611 wrote:Not about "being cool." It's about being healthy. Having a lower bodyfat percentage is going to be healthier than being fat.
  
  I guess I'll get have to take my chances building healthy muscle over this fallacy of the "healthy" chronic cardio when we are seeing a bunch of these "healthy" former marathoners dropping over dead (from HEART ATTACKS) in their 50's from the constant beatings they have put their body through.
  
  And if you think that lifting heavy isn't giving the old ticker a good workout, you're sadly mistaken.

  There's plenty of room in between marathoning and essentially no cardio. And there's plenty of bodybuilder type people who have heart attacks young too.
• BR1986FB

  I Wear Pants;824614 wrote:This, I've always been about getting as fit as I can which means being strong but having very good cardio. I've never seen the appeal of being super huge. Especially when you see how those guys do in athletic events, they gas right away.

  
  Just because you lift huge doesn't mean you're going to GET huge. Right now I'm training VERY heavy with the idea of "downsizing." I'm looking to shed bodyfat and maintain body mass, not gain/get huge.
• I Wear Pants

  Wasn't really talking about you there then. You do know the type I'm talking about though. Of course I've always been into fitness so that I can perform better athletically so maybe that's why I'm seeing it differently.
• I Wear Pants

  CC is lying he takes supplements and lots of them, there's no way he gets this angry without roids.
• BR1986FB

  I Wear Pants;824626 wrote:You do know the type I'm talking about though..

  
  You mean the guy with 22" pipes and a 60" chest who is breathing heavy walking 15 feet from the bench to the water fountain? Yeah, I know that type.