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  • Commander of Awesome
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/8442464/Exploding-UFOs-and-alien-landings-in-secret-FBI-files.html

    'Exploding UFOs and alien landings' in secret FBI files
    Secret FBI files have been released detailing how US officials saw a UFO explode over Utah – and aliens land near Roswell in New Mexico.


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    Images of aliens autopsied by the US military at Roswell in 1947 were a hoax


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    Visitors to the International UFO Museum in Roswell, New Mexico examine a glass-encased alien prop used in the movie Roswell Photo: AP

    By Bonnie Malkin 10:39AM BST 11 Apr 2011
    A declassified document from 1949 tells how three men, on patrols miles apart, each reported seeing a UFO break up over mountains north of Salt Lake City.


    The 1950 memo that recounts the discovery of flying saucers and aliens in New Mexico Their extraordinary accounts were sent to Edgar Hoover, the director of the FBI, in a memo titled "Flying Discs".

    The file said that a policeman, a highway patrolman and an army guard all "saw a silver coloured object high up approaching the mountains at Sardine Canyon" that "appeared to explode in a rash of fire."

    "Several residents [reported] seeing what appeared to be two aerial explosions, followed by falling object," it said.

    The file is one of thousands of previously unreleased files that the FBI has made public in a new online resource called The Vault.

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    Among them is a 1950 statement from special agent Guy Hottel, which seems to provide evidence for the theory that aliens landed at Roswell, New Mexico.

    In the memo, Agent Hottel said that "three so-called flying saucers had been recovered in New Mexico".

    He wrote that the flying saucers were "described as being circular in shape with raised centers, approximately 50 feet in diameter."

    In a statement that is reminiscent of the hit 1990s TV programme The X-Files, he went on to describe the alien life forms inside the UFOs.

    "Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape but only 3 feet tall," he wrote.

    The bodies were "dressed in a metallic cloth of a very fine texture. Each body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout suits used by speed flyers and test pilots."

    Agent Hottel suggested that the UFOs had crashed in New Mexico because high-powered government radar had interfered with their operating systems.

    The release of the files are likely to intensify the claims of conspiracy theorists who believe the US government covered up alien landings.

    Roswell became infamous after reports that a flying saucer had crashed in the desert nearby in 1947.

    The bodies of aliens were said to have been recovered by the military.
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  • Commander of Awesome
    From the 'X-File' Dept: FBI Releases Memo -- Claims "Aliens Landed at Roswell"

    A memo that appears to prove that aliens landed in New Mexico prior to 1950 has been published by the FBI. The bureau has made thousands of files previously available in a new online resource called The Vault. Among them is a memo to the director from Guy Hottel, the special agent in charge of the Washington field office, which is now published on the FBI website

    In the memo, whose subject header is 'Flying Saucers', Agent Hottel reveals that an Air Force investigator had stated that 'three so-called flying saucers had been recovered in New Mexico'. The investigator gave the information to a special agent, he said. The FBI has censored both the agent and the investigator's identity.
    They were described as being circular in shape with raised centers, approximately 50 feet in diameter," Hottel wrote.

    'Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape but only 3 feet tall,' he stated. The bodies were dressed in a metallic cloth of a very fine texture. Each body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout suits used by speed flyers and test pilots.'

    An image allegedly shows one of the aliens that were autopsied at Roswell in 1947 Hottel said that the informant, whose identity was censored in the memo, claimed the saucers had been found in New Mexico 'due to the fact that the Government has a very high-powered radar set-up in that area and it is believed the radar interferes with the controlling mechanism of the saucers'.

    The release of the secret memo is likely to fuel conspiracy theorists' claims of a government cover-up.

    The town of Roswell in New Mexico became infamous after reports that a flying saucer had crashed in the desert near a military base there on or around July 2, 1947.
    The bodies of aliens were said to have been recovered and autopsied by the U.S. military, but American authorities allegedly covered the incident up.

    Roswell disappeared from the news until the late Seventies, when some of the military involved began to speak out. Another memo published in The Vault from 1947 claimed that an object 'purporting to be a flying disc' had been recovered near Roswell. The disc was 'hexagonal in shape' and 'suspended from a balloon by a cable', according to the memo, marked as 'Urgent', to the FBI director.
  • Commander of Awesome
    A short history of Roswell:

    On July 8, 1947, the Roswell Army Air Field (RAAF) issued a press release stating that personnel from the field's 509th Bomb Group had recovered a crashed "flying disc" from a ranch near Roswell, sparking intense media interest. Later the same day, the Commanding General of the Eighth Air Force stated that, in fact, a weather balloon had been recovered by RAAF personnel, rather than a "flying saucer." A subsequent press conference was called, featuring debris said to be from the crashed object that seemed to confirm the weather balloon description.

    In the breaking news on Sunday, July 1, 2007 it was announced that "Roswell Officer Gives Deathbed Confession That He Did Personally See the Aliens Corpses." In what might be one of the most incredible confessions of the century, the officer also revealed details about the alien’s spacecraft, the alien bodies and the government’s cover-up operation.

    Is this a repeat of Orson Welles' Mercury Theater broadcast -- science fiction -- or will it actually prove out as fact?

    Lieutenant Walter Haut was the public relations officer at the base in 1947 and was the man who issued the original and subsequent press releases after the crash on the orders of the base commander, Colonel William Blanchard.

    Haut died in 2006, but left a sworn affidavit to be opened strictly after his death. The statement was revealed just recently. Others who made similar statements in life were persecuted and ridiculed by the military, so it is likely that Haut kept his secret out of fear or a sense of duty. However, his confession matches that of others who personally saw the craft or bodies.

    The text was released and asserts that the “weather balloon” claim was a cover story and that the real object had been recovered by the military and stored in a hangar. He described seeing not just the craft, but alien bodies as well.

    Haut's affidavit mentions a high-level meeting he attended with base commander Col William Blanchard and the Commander of the Eighth Army Air Force, General Roger Ramey.

    Haut states that at this meeting, pieces of wreckage were handed around for participants to touch, with nobody able to identify the material. His testimony matches the key witness, Major Jesse Marcel’s testimony, the intelligence officer who had gone to the ranch to recover the wreckage. He described the metal as being wafer thin but incredibly tough, and that it was as light as balsa wood, but couldn't be cut or burned.

    Haut says the 2nd false press release was issued because locals were already aware of the crash site, but in fact there had been a second crash site, where more debris from the craft had fallen.

    The cover-up plan was that an announcement acknowledging the first site, which had been discovered by a farmer, would divert attention from the second and more important location.

    Haut also details the clean-up operation, where for months afterwards military personnel scoured both crash sites searching for all remaining pieces of debris, removing them and attempting to erase all signs that anything unusual had occurred.

    This fits perfectly with the claims made by locals that debris collected as souvenirs was seized by the military. Locals who had “seen things” were bullied by the military to stay quiet.

    Haut then tells how Colonel Blanchard took him to "Building 84", one of the hangars at Roswell, and showed him the craft itself.

    He describes a metallic egg-shaped object around 3.6m-4.5m in length and around 1.8m wide.

    He said he saw no windows, wings, tail, landing gear or any other feature.

    He saw two bodies on the floor, which he described in his statement as about 1.2m tall, with disproportionately large heads.

    Towards the end of the affidavit, Haut concludes: “ [what] I personally observed was some kind of craft and its crew from outer space".

    What is particularly interesting about Walter Haut is that in the many interviews he gave before his death, he played down his role and made no such claims. Dutiful up until the end, he would surely have spoken about the craft and the bodies in life had he wanted the publicity.

    Historically, whether or not aliens exist has been an uncomfortable topic for many people. As with other so-called “conspiracy theories”, there’s the fear that you’ll be instantly labeled as “nuts” if you dare to venture an open-minded opinion.

    However, that knee-jerk reaction is disappearing, especially in light of Haut’s confession, but also as prominent astrophysicists begin to voice their opinions that the odds are quite good that we are not alone in the universe. If you can accept that life could have formed somewhere in infinity, then it’s not too far stretch to accept that another life form -- likely much older and more advanced that human beings -- could have mastered space travel. After all, we ourselves have already mastered a rudimentary form of it.

    The infamous Roswell “cover-up” is probably the best-known “alien” incident. For those of you unfamiliar with the full history -- here’s a summary of events:

    60 years ago, Pilot Kenneth Arnold was flying when he saw some bright lights, and tried to get in closer for a better visual, and noticed the lights were actually a group of nine shiny metallic objects flying in a formation.

    He estimated their speed as being around 2600km/h -- nearly three times faster than the top speed of any jet aircraft at the time. Soon after, similar reports began to come in from all over America.

    On July 8, 1947, the Roswell Army Air Field (RAAF) issued a press release, which stated that personnel from the field's 509th Bomb Group had recovered a crashed "flying disc" from a ranch near Roswell.

    Military authorities original press release began: "The many rumours regarding the flying disc became a reality yesterday when the intelligence officer of the 509th Bomb Group of the Eighth Air Force, Roswell Army Air Field, was fortunate enough to gain possession of a disc."

    Yet, just 24 hours later, the military changed their story and claimed the object they'd first thought was a "flying disc" was a weather balloon that had crashed on a nearby ranch. Later that day, top officials revised the statement to say that it was a hot air weather balloon. But wouldn’t air force personnel -- who actually saw the object in question -- know the difference between a “flying disc” and a balloon? Everyone was confused, but wanted to trust their government had a handle on things.

    The case was quickly closed until years later when Major Jesse Marcel (who was involved with the original recovery of the debris in 1947) said that the military had indeed covered up the recovery of an alien spacecraft. Local mortician, Glenn Dennis, also put forth a detailed personal account that alien autopsies were carried out at the Roswell base, for which he could personally testify. He said he was contacted by authorities at Roswell shortly after the crash and asked to provide a number of child-sized coffins. When he arrived at the base, he was apparently told by a nurse (who later disappeared) that a UFO had crashed and that small humanoid extraterrestrials had been recovered.

    Others testified to having seen the alien corpses as well, but were “bullied” by the government to keep their “mouths shut.” The government later responded that the creatures that eyewitnesses saw were not aliens but dummies that looked like aliens. That explanation has been widely criticized as making absolutely no sense, and for being ridiculous and patronizing.

    German-born American astrophysicist Bernard Haisch, Ph.D., who was editor of the Astrophysical Journal for ten years, and served as Principal Investigator on several NASA research projects, says that he does not discount the possibility that the government has covered up UFO evidence and artifacts in the past.

    Haisch reports that recently astrophysicist Ken Olum at Tufts University argued that inflation theory predicts that we should find ourselves part of a large, galaxy-sized civilization, implying that the "We are alone" solution to Fermi's paradox that "if aliens are out there why haven't we found them" is inconsistent with our best current theory of cosmology. Beatriz Gato-Rivera, a physicist at the Instituto de Matematicas y Fisica in Madrid, followed up with the hypothesis that Olum is correct, but that by design we would be kept unaware of a greatly advanced surrounding civilization. She also argues that modern superstring and M-brane theory further aggravate Fermi's "missing alien" problem.

    "It is quite strange," Haisch has written, "that while our best modern physics and astrophysics theories thus predict that we should be experiencing extraterrestrial visitation, any possible evidence of such in the form of a subset of UFO reports is ignored or ridiculed."

    “I have learned quite a bit about the UFO phenomenon over the years (certainly more than I had bargained for)," Haisch noted, "and have met many of the leading figures, some credible, some deluded. There are astronomers and pilots and NASA engineers -- and others who have been around the block a few times when it comes to observing natural phenomena -- who have witnessed events for which there is no plausible conventional explanation. There is another aspect to the UFO phenomenon that involves politics and secrecy rather than observational evidence. Over the years I have gotten to know individuals who for one reason or another would be aware of the existence of black programs and secret projects. I have learned how it would indeed be possible to maintain decades-long secrecy on this topic and why this might be justified.”


    http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2011/04/from-the-x-file-dept-fbi-releases-memo-that-proves-aliens-landed-at-roswell.html
  • Commander of Awesome
    Oh come on, there's got to be some ppl on here (ender wiggen) that believe this stuff. Here's some new evidence for all the conspiracy theorists on the OC.
  • justincredible
    tldnr;
  • O-Trap
    Read this yesterday.

    Meh.
  • bases_loaded
    Im not reading all that...just tell me...did UFOs land here yet?
  • gut
    IF aliens did land and the FBI finally decided to stop covering it up, it's hard to imagine they'd release this without fanfare. I'd imagine Obama front and center making this glorious announcement and heralding the era of transparency he's ushered in.
  • OSH
    I hope you properly cited all those posts...another forum I moderate we got in some hot water over some plagiarism issues from a paper or two. And...that is a lot of reading to do.

    I read them the other day also. I don't think much of it. Doesn't mean much to me. I wasn't around when it happened. Odds are, I won't be around if it were to happen again.
  • balk14
    this is a 3rd party account stemming from some dude who went to jail for trying to fake out investors about a "crash"...also, this doc isnt top secret or anything like that...sounds real to me...
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    This appears to be the thread fail of the week...nice job.
  • Big Al Carter
    Raw Dawgin' it;738358 wrote:This appears to be the thread fail of the week...nice job.

    Way to recognize that you are a failure from another screen name. Would this be considered a selfpwn?
  • Little Danny
    Roswell was a pretty good show back in the day. That was long before Katherine Heigl became annoying.
  • Thread Bomber
    Threre is IP evidence that Like that circles ur anus looking for Klingons.
  • Bloody Toothbrush
    Its real.......They stole my baby!









    OH Wait......maybe I stole their baby...anyway ITS ALL REAL !!!!
    Gotta Roll, I'm late for my electro-therapy.
  • Drums of War
    "Thay took ur Jobs!!!!"