Shotguns

• ttocs14

  

  Not sure how many gun owners are on here, but I know there are at least a few.
  
  I'm looking in to buying a 12ga shotgun and I think I have it narrowed down to three choices:
  Remington 870
  Mossberg 500
  Benelli Nova
  
  Just wondering if anyone has any first hand experience with these guns...any pros/cons?
• Bigred1995

  

  I don't know about guns, but what I do know is that it takes a good minute or two for me to actually read your post because my eyes are immediately drawn to your "avatar(?)". Then, while reading your post I'm am compelled to stop periodically to stare more at it! I'm certainly not a fast reader, but for a post so short I've never taken so long to read any other like it!
  
  
  Thanks, by the way!
• Belly35

  

  This is a good site to get comment, suggestion and rating of weapons.
  
  http://www.gundirectory.com/
  
  I'm not a shotgun owner ... pistols (2 Sigs .45 and 9mm) and looking to buy a AR-15 soon
• password

  

  Depends, are you buying the shotgun for hunting or home protection and if hunting are you looking to hunt deer, rabbit or birds?
• mcburg93

  

  Mossbergs always had a rattle to them but was a very trustworthy gun. Owned about ten of em at one point and never had a problem with them. Only problem was they wasnt worth much you can find them rather cheap at a lot of gun shows or private dealers.
  
  Remington 870 is my fave I have a wingmaster my father bought when they first came out. He payed sixty dollars for it and its been used to hunt every year since he has bought it. All I have done to it was clean it. The new ones seem to be pretty nice too I have one but only fired it once.
  
  Dont know much about the Benelli's I have only used them during trap shoots and it seemed to be a very good shooting gun for that purpose.
• Thread Bomber

  

  I have a Remmy 870 and it's awsome for bird hunting and OK with the slug barrel for deer. I guess I need to know what you intend on hunting eith it.
• Quint

  

  I have a Remington 870. . . solid gun. No complaints here.
• OSH

  

  I like my Mossbergs.
  
  My dad wouldn't ever allow a Remington in the house, so can't say anything about them.
  
  My brother loves the Benellis that he's had. Probably hard to find a faster shotgun than a Benelli.
• ttocs14

  

  Sorry, should have mentioned it in my OP but I would mostly be using it for deer hunting and trap shooting. A few of my friends have the 870 and they give it good reviews as well.
  
  I've priced them all at local shops and I can pick up the 870 and 500 for about $320 and the Benelli for about $380
• ttocs14

  

  Bigred1995;730467 wrote:I don't know about guns, but what I do know is that it takes a good minute or two for me to actually read your post because my eyes are immediately drawn to your "avatar(?)". Then, while reading your post I'm am compelled to stop periodically to stare more at it! I'm certainly not a fast reader, but for a post so short I've never taken so long to read any other like it!
  
  
  Thanks, by the way!

  I find myself staring at it as well...
• LJ

  

  ttocs14;730484 wrote:Sorry, should have mentioned it in my OP but I would mostly be using it for deer hunting and trap shooting. A few of my friends have the 870 and they give it good reviews as well.
  
  I've priced them all at local shops and I can pick up the 870 and 500 for about $320 and the Benelli for about $380

  
  Best pump period is a Browning BPS. You can get a combo with a 28" vent rib barrel and a 24" slug barrel. It will run you ~$500, BUT like I said, it is the best pump shotgun you can buy
• I Wear Pants

  Get the one that shoots stuff and makes a loud noise.
• ttocs14

  

  
• Pick6

  

  I have a Mossberg 500 and love it.
• password

  

  I think the Remington 870 would be the one to go with for hunting and trap. The Mossberg is not not even close to the Remington when it comes to quality and dependability. I own a few Remington shotguns and never have a problem with them. The Mossberg may have changed over the years but they always felt like a cheap impostor compared to the Remington. Depending where you live, there may be a gun shop or indoor shooting range that has both of these guns and would let you test fire both and make a decision based on how well you like the way they handle. If you are looking for quality there is no better than Remington. The weight of the gun, Heavy or Light Trigger and Recoil are all things that you have to be comfortable with. The bottom line is that you have to get what you are going to be comfortable with and what feels good to you. Choosing a gun is like choosing a women, some guys like big heavy BBW type women and some like the petite light weight women, Neither guy is wrong, you have to choose which one feels good to you when holding it in your hands.
• LJ

  

  password;730535 wrote:I think the Remington 870 would be the one to go with for hunting and trap. The Mossberg is not not even close to the Remington when it comes to quality and dependability. I own a few Remington shotguns and never have a problem with them. The Mossberg may have changed over the years but they always felt like a cheap impostor compared to the Remington. Depending where you live, there may be a gun shop or indoor shooting range that has both of these guns and would let you test fire both and make a decision based on how well you like the way they handle. If you are looking for quality there is no better than Remington. The weight of the gun, Heavy or Light Trigger and Recoil are all things that you have to be comfortable with. The bottom line is that you have to get what you are going to be comfortable with and what feels good to you. Choosing a gun is like choosing a women, some guys like big heavy BBW type women and some like the petite light weight women, Neither guy is wrong, you have to choose which one feels good to you when holding it in your hands.

  
  
  Or you can get a Browning and make both the Mossberg and Remmy feel like cheap pieces of crap. (they aren't, but there is definitely a huge difference in build quality, having shot all 4 guns mentioned in this thread)
• ttocs14

  

  LJ;730545 wrote:Or you can get a Browning and make both the Mossberg and Remmy feel like cheap pieces of crap. (they aren't, but there is definitely a huge difference in build quality, having shot all 4 guns mentioned in this thread)

  I've never shot a Browning but I'll definitely keep it in mind when I look at all of them this weekend. More than likely it seems like I can't go wrong with any of the choices, unless I get a lemon.
  
  I know the Remington 870 is probably the most mass produced shotgun out of them all and has a good track record. I just hope they are making the 870 express with as much quality as they have in the past.
• password

  

  I think this debate could go on for years if you want but the browning doesn't impress me. I think it is a personal preference and proof of that would be, My father who owned a gun shop for about 20 yrs would only deer hunt with a winchester pump shotgun because he said that is what he liked. He would sell a lot of Ithaca shotguns and guys would swear that they were the best guns made but that does not make it true. Every year some company comes out with a new model and people think it is the best gun made because they added some new features and raised the cost to consumers but it is really no better than the older model. For the average hunter that wants a gun that they can take right out of the box and use the same day, Remington would be a good choice. When people want to talk about buying the best shotguns made for trap or bird hunting than people better be ready to take out a second mortgage because you will spend up wards of $15,000.00 and in my opinion that doesn't make it any better than my $1600.00 trap gun.
• password

  

  LJ;730545 wrote:Or you can get a Browning and make both the Mossberg and Remmy feel like cheap pieces of crap. (they aren't, but there is definitely a huge difference in build quality, having shot all 4 guns mentioned in this thread)

  
  
  I think this debate could go on for years if you want but the browning doesn't impress me. I think it is a personal preference and proof of that would be, My father who owned a gun shop for about 20 yrs would only deer hunt with a winchester pump shotgun because he said that is what he liked. He would sell a lot of Ithaca shotguns and guys would swear that they were the best guns made but that does not make it true. Every year some company comes out with a new model and people think it is the best gun made because they added some new features and raised the cost to consumers but it is really no better than the older model. For the average hunter that wants a gun that they can take right out of the box and use the same day, Remington would be a good choice. When people want to talk about buying the best shotguns made for trap or bird hunting than people better be ready to take out a second mortgage because you will spend up wards of $15,000.00 and in my opinion that doesn't make it any better than my $1600.00 trap gun.
• LJ

  

  password;730616 wrote:I think this debate could go on for years if you want but the browning doesn't impress me. I think it is a personal preference and proof of that would be, My father who owned a gun shop for about 20 yrs would only deer hunt with a winchester pump shotgun because he said that is what he liked. He would sell a lot of Ithaca shotguns and guys would swear that they were the best guns made but that does not make it true. Every year some company comes out with a new model and people think it is the best gun made because they added some new features and raised the cost to consumers but it is really no better than the older model. For the average hunter that wants a gun that they can take right out of the box and use the same day, Remington would be a good choice. When people want to talk about buying the best shotguns made for trap or bird hunting than people better be ready to take out a second mortgage because you will spend up wards of $15,000.00 and in my opinion that doesn't make it any better than my $1600.00 trap gun.

  
  Feel would be a personal pref, but there is no denying the build quality of the Browning over the Remmy and Mossberg. As for not telling a difference between, I promise you that you can tell a difference between my Brownings and my Krieghoff. As for which one I am more comfortable with, of course the Browning Sporter Ultra that I have over 200k rounds through, but that doesn't mean there aren't build differences and so on.
• mcburg93

  

  As far as brownings go I mustve had bad luck. Never owned one that didnt break. I bought an o/u 12ga browning from a friend and owned it for about two weeks and had to pay to get two new firing pins and two new springs put in. He bought it two years earlier so shouldnt of had them problems that soon. The other browning I owned had it about a year and had to do pretty much the samething to it. So I for one am against brownings due to my experiences.
• LJ

  

  mcburg93;730634 wrote:As far as brownings go I mustve had bad luck. Never owned one that didnt break. I bought an o/u 12ga browning from a friend and owned it for about two weeks and had to pay to get two new firing pins and two new springs put in. He bought it two years earlier so shouldnt of had them problems that soon. The other browning I owned had it about a year and had to do pretty much the samething to it. So I for one am against brownings due to my experiences.

  
  Odd, I own 4 and my dad owns 3 and we both have shot the hell out of them for years with no issues. Like I said my Sporter Ultra has had 0 issues. No firing pins replaced, nothing.
• password

  

  LJ;730622 wrote:Feel would be a personal pref, but there is no denying the build quality of the Browning over the Remmy and Mossberg. As for not telling a difference between, I promise you that you can tell a difference between my Brownings and my Krieghoff. As for which one I am more comfortable with, of course the Browning Sporter Ultra that I have over 200k rounds through, but that doesn't mean there aren't build differences and so on.

  
  The Krieghoff is in a different league than Browning. I think you can tell the difference between all guns once you shoot them and I guess that is my point, you have to get what feels best for the individual and not what everyone else thinks is best.
• mcburg93

  

  I mustve had bad luck cause I have always heard how GREAT they are in the hunting club Im in. So I bought two and both of them were crap. I will keep my remingtons and let everyone pay high prices for a gun that I had no luck with. I do have Pirazzi that I love but it is a little more money then were talking about here. Its prolly the best sporting clay gun I ever shot. I will still choose my 870 wingmaster over it anyday.
• j_crazy

  

  i hate mossbergs.
  
  i wouldn't use that POS to paddle a canoe.
  
  browning is the best, remington is very good. winchester 1300 is my gun of choice. but they stopped making them in 2006 or 2007. i'd still consider buying a used one if it's in as good of condition as my 2.