Why the fascination with Yuengling?

• Glory Days

  

  SQ_Crazies wrote: And if Bud Light were as good, why would anyone ever drive to PA or WV to buy Yuengling?

  because what is more exciting and would be a better story, road tripping with the guys down to the local grocery store or road tripping a few hours to PA or WV?
• SQ_Crazies

  

  Glory Days wrote:

  SQ_Crazies wrote: And if Bud Light were as good, why would anyone ever drive to PA or WV to buy Yuengling?

  because what is more exciting and would be a better story, road tripping with the guys down to the local grocery store or road tripping a few hours to PA or WV?

  LOL, yeah that makes total sense!
• sleeper

  

  . I've often asked the question myself, but guess what--it's their company, they can do what they want.

  Name 1 company in history who has never tried to maximum profit. Like I said, its a niche beer, there sales won't increase enough to justify amping up production or expanding their market, which tells you how "good" their beer really is.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  LOL...ok.
  
  You want to talk about a niche beer? How about Sam Adams. 50 states to 11 states and their sales are the same? Looks to me like Sam Adams isn't really that good then.
  
  Niche beer...doesn't even make sense.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  sleeper wrote:

  . I've often asked the question myself, but guess what--it's their company, they can do what they want.

  Name 1 company in history who has never tried to maximum profit. Like I said, its a niche beer, there sales won't increase enough to justify amping up production or expanding their market, which tells you how "good" their beer really is.

  Complete and utter sophistry. Following your argument everyone's favorite local pizza shop (or other restaurant if pizza ain't your thing) is inferior to Pizza Hut or Domino's because they haven't expanded their market. That idea would go over like a lead balloon here.
  
  I really have no idea why Yuengling doesn't expand. I do know there are plenty of reasons why businesses don't. Maybe the owners are comfortable in their operating region (note, Yuengling is privately owned). Maybe they believe their quality would not be properly maintained with a larger production. Maybe they are risk adverse with capital expenditures. Maybe they simply don't care, at any rate their website says this:
  
  "Why can't I find Yuengling nationwide?
  The Yuengling Brewery is a regional brewer that has manufacturing plants in Pottsville, PA and Tampa, FL. Currently we distribute our products over a ten state area along the eastern seaboard. While there is significant interest for our products nationwide, unfortunately we do not have the manufacturing capabilities to service customers across the United States. As a result, our focus and efforts continues to be on our loyal customers and markets that are logistically feasible to our production facilities."
  
  I have no reason to believe or not believe them, sometimes local businesses want to stay local.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  SQ_Crazies wrote: LOL...ok.
  
  You want to talk about a niche beer? How about Sam Adams. 50 states to 11 states and their sales are the same? Looks to me like Sam Adams isn't really that good then.
  
  Niche beer...doesn't even make sense.

  would price have something to do with that? or are sam adams and yuengling the same price per case?
• SQ_Crazies

  

  I'm speaking in terms of amount of beer. They sell as much as Sam Adams does in 50 states. And their biggest market is in Sam Adams' backyard.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  SQ_Crazies wrote: I'm speaking in terms of amount of beer. They sell as much as Sam Adams does in 50 states. And their biggest market is in Sam Adams' backyard.

  Yeah, because it's a lower level beer in terms of price per quantity. Which is why they sell more of that than sam adams. It has nothing to do with taste, it's all about how much beer can you get for the money
• SQ_Crazies

  

  No.
  
  They still sell cheaper beer in every state that Yuengling is sold in.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  30 bucks for a case of sam adams, 18-20 for a case of yuengling is what I am seeing
• SQ_Crazies

  

  I'm done with this argument, like I said from the beginning, the numbers don't lie.
• sleeper

  

  Complete and utter sophistry. Following your argument everyone's favorite local pizza shop (or other restaurant if pizza ain't your thing) is inferior to Pizza Hut or Domino's because they haven't expanded their market. That idea would go over like a lead balloon here.

  The beer is average, just like your local restaurant. Problem solved.
  
  Obviously there are going to be exceptions to the rule, so as prestigious restaurants only having a fixed amount of quality chefs to run it, but we're talking about beer production here, so stop trying to change the subject. It's as simple as opening a new factory and expanding production and distribution. They won't do it because they've studied the numbers and have done research that shows the NPV of any new investment will be negative, and you can take that to the bank.
  
  And really their website? You've been bought and sold by the company's website explanation? Really? I mean seriously? LOL
• Manhattan Buckeye

  " It's as simple as opening a new factory and expanding production and distribution. "
  
  Yeah, that's really simple (I'm being completely sarcastic). They have two production facilities now. Do you expect them to increase capital expenditures by likely 50% when they are probably incredibly profitable now? You do understand they are a private company (I note you didn't quote me on that highly important point). They don't have to report their finances. They don't have public shareholders to answer to. Maybe they are happy with the business as is without regard to expansion (another important point you didn't see fit to quote). Take that to the bank!
• SQ_Crazies

  

  LOL are you a business student sleeper?
• sleeper

  

  Manhattan Buckeye wrote: " It's as simple as opening a new factory and expanding production and distribution. "
  
  Yeah, that's really simple (I'm being completely sarcastic). They have two production facilities now. Do you expect them to increase capital expenditures by likely 50% when they are probably incredibly profitable now? You do understand they are a private company (I note you didn't quote me on that highly important point). They don't have to report their finances. They don't have public shareholders to answer to. Maybe they are happy with the business as is without regard to expansion (another important point you didn't see fit to quote). Take that to the bank!

  What does being a private company have anything to do with his? A companies goal is to maximize profit and if their product is as good as everyone on this forum then they should be able to EXPLODE their profit by expanding production. LIKE I'VE SAID, obviously they've done the research to know if they investment in new production will increase profits, but the results are probably negative which is why they are content with current production.
  
  Don't you own a business? This is borderline embarrassing that I even have to explain this to you.
• sleeper

  

  SQ_Crazies wrote: LOL are you a business student sleeper?

  Yes and what does that have to with this discussion? Shouldn't you be bagging my groceries? Get to work CLOWN.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  LOL you've got a lot to learn.
• sleeper

  

  SQ_Crazies wrote: LOL you've got a lot to learn.

  QQ noobshit.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  "A companies goal is to maximize profit and if their product is as good as everyone on this forum then they should be able to EXPLODE their profit by expanding production."
  
  I have my own company. Sometimes (like last week) I take vacations, even though I realize that my lack or reduction of working will result in less income and less profit for me. Should I sue myself for not maximizing my profit? Should my wife? Should my shareholders (read: me)? Should you? Elvis? Barack Obama? Who the hell do I have to answer to, whatever dumbass professor that taught you how business works?
• I Wear Pants

  Sleeper makes FAT STACKS of CASH MONEY so don't question his business acumen.
• swamisez

  

  Yuengling rolled out the Bock Beer again, I decided to have one at bar tonight. Ok, not great.
  
  Now, if any of you travel to the Carolinas be sure to try Natty Greene's Guilford Golden Ale and Red Oak.
• sleeper

  

  Manhattan Buckeye wrote: "A companies goal is to maximize profit and if their product is as good as everyone on this forum then they should be able to EXPLODE their profit by expanding production."
  
  I have my own company. Sometimes (like last week) I take vacations, even though I realize that my lack or reduction of working will result in less income and less profit for me. Should I sue myself for not maximizing my profit? Should my wife? Should my shareholders (read: me)? Should you? Elvis? Barack Obama? Who the hell do I have to answer to, whatever dumbass professor that taught you how business works?

  Way to take things out of context because I totally was talking about filing lawsuits noobshit. :rolleyes:
  
  Let me ask you this question, if you had the ability to expand production and increase your profits, would you do it, all else being equal? Would you do it? Yes or no?
• sleeper

  

  I Wear Pants wrote: Sleeper makes FAT STACKS of CASH MONEY so don't question his business acumen.

  Exactly. I'm just trying to spread my wealth(non-monetary of course) with the less advantaged. Take my word as gold, and you won't have any problems.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  "Let me ask you this question, if you had the ability to expand production and increase your profits, would you do it, all else being equal? Would you do it? Yes or no? "
  
  That's the whole point, nothing else is equal in business. We don't live in a vacuum. Any potential increase in profits would likely involve (i) more work from my part, (ii) more capital risk, and likely both (i) and (ii) and likely more negative events not even mentioned and with no guarantee there would be an increase. The world isn't a business class exam written by someone that has never worked in business.
• sleeper

  

  Manhattan Buckeye wrote: "Let me ask you this question, if you had the ability to expand production and increase your profits, would you do it, all else being equal? Would you do it? Yes or no? "
  
  That's the whole point, nothing else is equal in business. We don't live in a vacuum. Any potential increase in profits would likely involve (i) more work from my part, (ii) more capital risk, and likely both (i) and (ii) and likely more negative events not even mentioned and with no guarantee there would be an increase. The world isn't a business class exam written by someone that has never worked in business.

  O really?! Risks in a business?
  
  LOL
  
  Bottom line, if Yuengling had the opportunity to increase production to increase profits it would do it.