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I was at the Navy Yard...

  • dlazz
    And Belly, normally I give you a hard time because you react in an idiotic/incoherent way and I think it's funny, but I will ridicule you for real now:

    This is not the thread to push your stupid gun/political agenda. Go fuck yourself.
  • sleeper
    dlazz;1502938 wrote:And Belly, normally I give you a hard time because you react in an idiotic/incoherent way and I think it's funny, but I will ridicule you for real now:

    This is not the thread to push your stupid gun/political agenda. Go fuck yourself.
    Pretty much this. For the record, the security guy at the front gate is armed and he ended up losing his life anyway.
  • WebFire
    sleeper;1502978 wrote:Pretty much this. For the record, the security guy at the front gate is armed and he ended up losing his life anyway.
    The first few always will because of the element of surprise.
  • Belly35
    Sleeper I understand the emotional roller coaster you are on .. the lose of friends and just simple people you meet every day as passing friendship is difficult sometimes to cope with.

    What ridicules is because of Bill Clinton our military base have one line of defense the front gate, what kind of stupid is that, after breaching the front gate it is open season before a response team can react. It’s a military base dip shit and should be protected at all time with MPs with weapons locked and loaded, trained soldiers with weapons doing their duty or training others. If you’re an Officer you should be packing you’re in the military take the responsibility to Protect and Serve.
  • sleeper
    Belly35;1503009 wrote:Sleeper I understand the emotional roller coaster you are on .. the lose of friends and just simple people you meet every day as passing friendship is difficult sometimes to cope with.

    What ridicules is because of Bill Clinton our military base have one line of defense the front gate, what kind of stupid is that, after breaching the front gate it is open season before a response team can react. It’s a military base dip shit and should be protected at all time with MPs with weapons locked and loaded, trained soldiers with weapons doing their duty or training others. If you’re an Officer you should be packing you’re in the military take the responsibility to Protect and Serve.
    This is false. This military base has a checkpoint at the front gate and each building has an armed guard stationed at the entrance. The area is also patrolled by police dog teams. You also need to note that although this is technically a military base, it's mostly administrative. I don't see how having soldiers walking around with machine guns would have prevented this from happening. I don't believe there is an easy way to stop the crazies.
  • thavoice
    MP's are just like regular police officers that you see around your towns. They cannot be everywhere.
    Having random other soldiers walking around with machine guns? Not sure that really is gonna work either just like I think having some armed teachers wont help a whole lot. Unless they are absolutely EVERYWHERE it isnt going to be a whole lot of a deterrant becuase the people who do this shit are fucking crazy anyways.
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    sleeper;1503018 wrote:This is false. This military base has a checkpoint at the front gate and each building has an armed guard stationed at the entrance. The area is also patrolled by police dog teams. You also need to note that although this is technically a military base, it's mostly administrative. I don't see how having soldiers walking around with machine guns would have prevented this from happening. I don't believe there is an easy way to stop the crazies.
    This
  • Commander of Awesome
    I haven't read many of the reports of the shooting, but how in the hell is one guy able to take out so many ppl at a military base? I would think a military base is on the short list for the worst places to go on a shooting spree.
  • thavoice
    Commander of Awesome;1503111 wrote:I haven't read many of the reports of the shooting, but how in the hell is one guy able to take out so many ppl at a military base? I would think a military base is on the short list for the worst places to go on a shooting spree.
    Ya would think, but there are so many civilian contractors there. I have been on enough bases to see how something like that could happen.
  • Belly35
    sleeper;1503018 wrote:This is false. This military base has a checkpoint at the front gate and each building has an armed guard stationed at the entrance. The area is also patrolled by police dog teams. You also need to note that although this is technically a military base, it's mostly administrative. I don't see how having soldiers walking around with machine guns would have prevented this from happening. I don't believe there is an easy way to stop the crazies.
    we agree .... There is no easy way to stop crazy

    i never stated machine guns, however officer with .45 or 9mm holstered would be welcome would you not agree?
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    Belly35;1503126 wrote:we agree .... There is no easy way to stop crazy

    i never stated machine guns, however officer with .45 or 9mm holstered would be welcome would you not agree?
    Security office did have a gun, he was shot, and it was taken from him. Derrrrrpppp go fuck yourself.

    In a newly revised sequence of events, federal investigators said they believe Alexis cleared a security checkpoint with his contractor identification and carried a shotgun into building 197. An official said that investigators now believe that Alexis stopped in a men's room where he assembled the weapon and proceeded to site on the third or fourth floor of the building that overlooked an interior atrium.
    Alexis, the official said, began firing indiscriminately on the people below with the law enforcement-style shotgun. After firing several rounds, the official said Alexis ran down a flight of stairs where he confronted and shot a security officer. It is believed that Alexis took the officer's handgun and returned to the overlook where he continued to shoot.
    At some point, the official said, Alexis again left the overlook and confronted a victim described as a maintenance person or building staffer. Alexis allegedly shot that person and returned one last time to the overlook where he was ultimately killed in a confrontation with police.
  • BoatShoes
    sleeper;1502882 wrote:Also found out today the security guy that was always helping me with my badge access that never worked was shot and killed as well. I waved hello to him as I entered the building and will never see him again; that hit hard.
    Holy Shit man...

    Glad you made it out.
  • friendfromlowry
    But wait what if there were cops with machine guns and soldiers with bazookas and dogs that shot bullets when they barked and free guns and no Obama wouldn't you guys feel safe?
    /belly'd, but more legible.
  • BRF
    I didn't believe you.

    I am sorry you went through that.

    I still don't like you.
  • sleeper
    Belly35;1503126 wrote:we agree .... There is no easy way to stop crazy

    i never stated machine guns, however officer with .45 or 9mm holstered would be welcome would you not agree?
    Perhaps you didn't read my post; every building has an armed security guard and the campus is patrolled by police dogs. It still happened.
  • sleeper
    Commander of Awesome;1503111 wrote:I haven't read many of the reports of the shooting, but how in the hell is one guy able to take out so many ppl at a military base? I would think a military base is on the short list for the worst places to go on a shooting spree.
    It's only a military base IN NAME ONLY. I mean yes there is a barracks and there are some munitions but its mostly just a complex of office buildings.

    The security isn't bad but its not like you've got people armed to the teeth and that are on the lookout for crazies.
  • sherm03
    Damn man...sorry to hear that you had to experience something like that.

    Glad you made it out OK.
  • Tiernan
    Just caught this Sleeper, glad you are unharmed. I see LJ didn't have the common decency to wish you well. Hang in there man and keep busting NDs balls.
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    sleeper;1503318 wrote:Perhaps you didn't read my post; every building has an armed security guard and the campus is patrolled by police dogs. It still happened.
    Belly and read are oxymorons.
  • Heretic
    Man, that sucks, Sleeper. That'd be a totally freaky experience.

    And I don't think Belly will stop posting here until you admit that none of this would have happened if Obama hadn't taken all our guns and then given them to the terrorists.
  • Me?
    Glad you're alright man, sorry you had to experience that.
  • cat_lover
    Glad you were not harmed.
  • Tiernan
    So I see this experience got you released from the lifetime ban to the basement too...all I'm saying is (if) you made this whole shit up to get out of the basement in time to still spread your usual assault on ND and the SEC...then KUDOS my man KUDOS!
  • ernest_t_bass
    God, I hate Obama:

    http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/09/23/obama-navy-yard-shooting-ought-to-lead-to-some-sort-of-transformation/
  • Heretic
    Glenn Beck is for retards.

    Hope this helps.