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  • sleeper
    The worst generation. Enjoy! :thumbup:

    http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=57575
    1. “Paws off, Junior. This cash is mine.”

    Children of boomer parents shouldn’t expect a big inheritance, even if their parents are rich. Only about half of high-net-worth baby boomers — those with more than $3 million in investible assets — say they consider leaving money to their kids a priority, according to a 2012 U.S. Trust Survey. In contrast, nearly three-quarters of people older than boomers say it’s important to them.


    Even boomers — typically defined by demographers as those born between 1946 and 1964 — who do plan to leave an inheritance may do so with strings attached. Indeed, nearly seven in 10 high-net-worth boomers surveyed by U.S. Trust said they were not fully confident that their children could handle an inheritance.


    “More often than not, clients leave inheritances in trusts,” says John Olivieri, a partner at New York law firm White & Case who works with a lot of boomer clients. With a trust, a third party manages the money and doles it out at intervals that the parent has specified. “Some parents have concerns about how their kids would invest and spend the money,” Olivieri says.


    2. “Make room, kids. We’ll be living with you when we’re old…”


    Boomers are expected to live longer than any previous generation. At the same time, many haven’t saved nearly enough for retirement. More than 44% of early boomers (whom the Employee Benefit Research Institute defines as those born between 1948 and 1954) and 43% of late boomers (born between 1955 and 1964) may not be able to afford basic living expenses in retirement, according to a 2012 analysis by EBRI. The result? Kids could be supporting mom and dad well into their 80s and 90s.


    One of the biggest drains on boomer retirement savings will be health-care expenses. Medicare pays for only about 60% of the cost of health services the typical retiree will face, estimates EBRI. A couple that is 65 today might need nearly $300,000 to cover health costs. “People who haven’t saved enough for health-care costs may deplete their assets,” says Michael Markiewicz, a partner at New York-based Fogel Neale Partners. “A lot of them may have to live with their kids or depend on them for money and care.”


    If parents do move in, their kids should expect to spend an extra $6,000 to $10,000 annually on food, clothing and other basics, says Andy Cohen, CEO of Caring.com, a website that provides resources for caregivers. Add thousands more for big-ticket items like wheelchair ramps or home health-care aids. Expensive as that sounds, it’s still often less than what it would cost to move a parent into an assisted living community, about $42,600 per year, on average, according to 2012 data from the MetLife Mature Market Institute.


    3. “…and we blame you for that.”


    Nearly one in six people ages 45 to 64 say that paying for their kid’s college tuition got in the way of saving for their own retirement, compared with just one in 20 who say that buying a home did, according to a 2012 study from Capital One ShareBuilder.


    That’s not surprising, given that the typical middle-income family will spend more than $230,000 to raise a child from birth to age 18, up 23% (in today’s dollars) since 1960, according to data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture. When you add paying for college to the mix — for tuition, fees and room and board as of the 2012-2013 school year, you’d pay an average of $17,860 per year for a four-year in-state public school, $30,911 per year for a four-year public out-of-state school or $39,518 per year for a private four-year school, according to the College Board — you could easily spend upwards of $100,000 on the basic’s for your child’s education. This means that retirement savings can really take a hit. “A lot of parents prioritized saving for their kids’ college over saving for retirement,” says Dan Greenshields, the president of CapitalOne ShareBuilder.


    The reason? “Parents often equate paying for college with helping their child become successful in life,” says Deborah Fox, the founder of Fox College Funding, a San Diego-based college-funding consulting firm. That’s something they feel they have a duty to do, whether or not they can afford it, she adds.


    4. “We can’t face reality.”


    What boomers think retirement will be like and what it actually is like are two very different things. A case in point: The forever-young generation just can’t deal with the idea of growing old. Only 13% of pre-retirees (people over 50 who have not yet retired) think their health will be significantly worse in retirement than it is now, while 39% of retirees report that it actually is worse, according to 2011 research by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and the Harvard School of Public Health.


    Boomers are a little fuzzy on the financial realities as well. While only 22% of pre-retirees think their financial situation will be worse in retirement, roughly one-third of retirees say that it is worse. Along those same lines, only 14% of pre-retirees predict that life overall will be worse when they retire, but a quarter of retirees report that it actually is worse. “There’s a real disconnect because your life pre-retirement is much different than your life post-retirement,” says Hal Hershfield, a professor at NYU’s Stern School of Business who conducts research on judgment, decision-making and social psychology with an emphasis on how thinking about time can alter decisions and emotions.


    5. “ ‘Til death do us part’ doesn’t apply to us.”


    Boomers are untying the knot at a record pace. The divorce rate for people over 50 has doubled in the past 20 years, says the National Center for Family and Marriage Research at Bowling Green State University, compared with a slight decrease in divorce overall. More than 600,000 individuals over 50 divorced in 2009, and if the rate continues to grow at the current pace, that number will hit more than 800,000 by 2030.


    What’s fueling this trend? Empty nesters find they are a lot less compatible when the kids aren’t around is one phenomenon, says Toronto-based psychologist Tami Kulbatski. Another might be that boomers are more likely to have married young (boomers were far more likely to be married when they were between the ages of 18 and 30, than were members of Generation X, according to research from the Pew Research Center for People & the Press). Now, a lot of boomers are in their second, third or even fourth marriage, and these marriages are more likely to end in divorce, says Krista Kay Payne, a researcher at the center.


    6. “We’re unhappy …”


    Boomers are the least happy of all age groups, according to a 2008 study published in the American Sociological Review journal. “The generation as a group was so large, and their expectations were so great,” Yang Yang, the author of the study, told the American Sociological Association, “not everyone in the group could get what he or she wanted due to competition for opportunities.“


    Another report from the Pew Research Center came to a similar conclusion: On a scale of one to 10, boomers, on average, rate their lives a 6.2, compared with a 6.7 for older adults and 6.5 for younger adults. That may not look like much of a difference, but this pattern has held steady for the past two decades. In other words, the boomers — even when they were younger — have been consistently less happy than other generations for the past 20 years.


    7. “… and we eat our feelings.”


    Nearly 40% of people ages 60 and up and nearly 37% of people 40 to 59 are now considered obese, according to a 2012 report from the Centers for Disease Control, compared with less than one in three for people age 20 to 39. What’s more, baby boomers are fatter than their parents’ generation, according to a study released this year by JAMA Internal Medicine, with nearly 40% of boomers reportedly obese, versus 29% of the previous generation.


    Obesity can lead to serious health problems, including diabetes and heart disease. A 65-year-old person who has been obese since age 45 personally incurs roughly $50,000 more in Medicare costs over the course of his or her lifetime than a “normal weight” 65-year-old does, according to the National Center for Health Statistics. Medicare and Medicaid end up paying for roughly half of the cost of obesity, which accounts for $190 billion in medical spending annually, according to a 2012 study published in the Journal of Health Economics.

    9. “We will bury you in debt.”


    We’re a nation in record debt — an estimated $16 trillion — and the sheer number of boomers is expected to significantly add to that in the coming years, as more begin to receive Social Security and Medicare benefits. (Social Security and Medicare spending represented 38% of federal expenditures in fiscal year 2012, and “both programs will experience cost growth substantially in excess of GDP growth through the mid-2030s,” according to the Social Security Administration.)


    But in many ways, boomers have been less willing than other demographic groups to support policy changes that could trim the debt. Fully 68% of boomers oppose eliminating the tax deduction for interest paid on home mortgages, compared with just 56% of all adults, according to the Pew Research Center. Furthermore, 80% of boomers (vs. 72% of all adults) oppose taxing employer health insurance benefits and 63% of boomers (vs. 58% of all adults) oppose increasing the age one qualifies for full Social Security benefits, the study shows.


    Many boomers are more opposed to these plans because “they would feel the impact more than other groups,” says Kim Parker, the associate director of the Pew Research Center’s Social and Demographic Trends Project. But without some sort of deficit reduction, future generations will be left with the dire economic consequences a massive deficit can cause, she says.

  • vball10set
    tfl;dfr
  • thavoice
    sleeper;1472803 wrote:The worst generation. Enjoy! :thumbup:

    http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=57575


    I stopped reading after I realized you posted it.
  • sleeper
  • sleeper
    vball10set;1472822 wrote:tfl;dfr
    Ignorance is bliss.
    -MLK
  • sleeper
    ccrunner609;1472826 wrote:my parents, like most of you, have parents that are boomers. My parents are terrible with money, have almost nothing to fall back on and likely alike most of the boomers..........lived their lives expecting the government to provide for them.
    Can't agree more. Their time will come; they will pay for their malfeasance.
  • Commander of Awesome
    sleeper;1472842 wrote:Can't agree more. Their time will come; they will pay for their malfeasance.
    Nope they probably wont. We'll end up paying for it. Just like the environment with global warming, we wont do shit until it's too late.
  • ernest_t_bass
    ccrunner609;1472826 wrote:my parents, like most of you, have parents that are boomers. My parents are terrible with money, have almost nothing to fall back on and likely alike most of the boomers..........lived their lives expecting the government to provide for them.
    Your parent's parents are baby boomers?
  • ernest_t_bass
    sleeper;1472839 wrote:
    We will NEVER see such drastic increases in standard of living as our baby-boomer parents did. College is way too over priced. Our parents never had to deal with college debt that high, in comparison to real income.
  • ernest_t_bass
    Commander of Awesome;1472849 wrote:Nope they probably wont. We'll end up paying for it. Just like the environment with global warming, we wont do shit until it's too late.
    You believe in global warming?
  • mcburg93
    I really hate thinking about the future. I didnt plan on living this long so I am fucked.
  • vball10set
    sleeper;1472841 wrote:Ignorance is bliss.
    -MLK
    thavoice;1472836 wrote:I stopped reading after I realized you posted it.
    ;)
  • said_aouita
    vball10set;1472822 wrote:tfl;dfr
    :thumbup:
  • rmolin73
    tl;dgaf
    ccrunner609;1472826 wrote:my parents, like most of you, have parents that are boomers. My parents are terrible with money, have almost
    nothing to fall back on and likely alike most of the boomers..........lived their lives expecting the government to provide for them.
    Wtf are you 12? That may explain a lot.
  • Pick6
    free sleeper. we need more people upstairs who aren't sheep and aren't afraid to speak their opinion. Shame Tiernan and thavoice are allowed up there and not him.
  • Pick6
    ernest_t_bass;1472862 wrote:You believe in global warming?
    Oh no you didnt :o
  • sleeper
    Pick6;1472987 wrote:free sleeper. we need more people upstairs who aren't sheep and aren't afraid to speak their opinion. Shame Tiernan and thavoice are allowed up there and not him.
    According to Justin, forever is forever. :thumbup:
  • mcburg93
    The mods and justin can GO FUCK THEMSELVES for keeping you down here. Its bullshit! that is all.
  • dlazz
    I'd really like to see Belly's reply to this since he likely falls into the baby bomber generation.

    I'm sure he'd have some dumbass, nonsensical reply and then blame Obama.
  • sleeper
    ernest_t_bass;1472861 wrote:We will NEVER see such drastic increases in standard of living as our baby-boomer parents did. College is way too over priced. Our parents never had to deal with college debt that high, in comparison to real income.
    Boomers are the worst at understanding this reality. They chalk it up to our generation "just being a bunch of entitled whiners". For myself personally, I make really good money and have no student loan debt, but I do know a large majority of my friends can barely find work and the ones that have found work barely make enough to do anything other than get a shitty apt and make payments on their loans.

    I cannot wait until the house of cards collapses and we start making drastic cuts to SS and Medicare and boomers are forced to eat their peas. CAN'T WAIT. LOL :thumbup:
  • O-Trap
    ernest_t_bass;1472862 wrote:You believe in global warming?
    sleeper;1472841 wrote:Ignorance is bliss.
    -MLK


    CNN'd
  • Tiernan
    Pick6;1472987 wrote:free sleeper. we need more people upstairs who aren't sheep and aren't afraid to speak their opinion. Shame Tiernan and thavoice are allowed up there and not him.
    Why you dragging my shit into this? I've done more time down here than The Basement Doctor. Oh and BTW...I'm a boomer and I've got more money than any 10 gen X or Y dipshits on this site.
  • sleeper
    Tiernan;1473770 wrote:Why you dragging my shit into this? I've done more time down here than The Basement Doctor. Oh and BTW...I'm a boomer and I've got more money than any 10 gen X or Y dipshits on this site.
    LJ is a Gen X'r. He has more money than everyone on this site combined. Don't believe me? Just ask him! :thumbup:
  • Weeper
    sleeper;1473793 wrote:LJ is a Gen X'r. He has more money than everyone on this site combined. Don't believe me? Just ask him! :thumbup:
    I had to look before I asked. I think you are off a bit.

    "Generation X refers to adults born between 1961 and 1981"

    But his profile says

    "Basic Information

    Date of Birth:February 4, 1985 (28)."
  • sleeper
    Weeper;1473796 wrote:I had to look before I asked. I think you are off a bit.

    "Generation X refers to adults born between 1961 and 1981"

    But his profile says

    "Basic Information

    Date of Birth:February 4, 1985 (28)."
    LJ has multiple birthdays. Don't believe me? Just ask him!