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Indiana's Evan Bayh Retires. Won't Run in 2010.

  • Heretic
    ou1980 wrote:
    Gobuckeyes1 wrote: Both parties have lost their sense of direction and principle.

    Both parties have also forgotten who they work for, and we have done nothing to remind them.

    We need to vote out the incumbents this fall, regardless of party.
    I agree!

    I dont care if its a Republican or Democrat, if the candidate will be honest and tell me the voter that he stands firmly on A B C D, and will stand by those principles once he/she is in D.C., and will stand up for there voting record during their re-election attempt, then yeah I will vote for said candidate.
    Very true. If you look at the last couple of presidential elections, it's obvious that both parties seem to be clueless to the point where the general public votes for the lesser of two evils. Bush wasn't particularly popular entering the election for his second term, but the Dems countered him with Kerrey...who might be the least charismatic person I've ever seen run for office (even less than Gore, who was regularly poked fun of for his awkward, wooden behavior). And this past election, the Dems won with a guy who really didn't bring much more to the table other that charisma....but the Repubs could only counter with the "odd-couple" pairing of an old dude who was considered "too liberal" a few years back and Palin, who just seemed to be arbitrarily thrown into the mix to appease the more right-wing Repubs.

    The sad thing is that people perpetrate this "lesser of two evils" system because of the perception that voting for third-party candidates is "throwing away your vote". Maybe if more people "threw away their vote" and someone not completely in bed with either the Dems or Repubs got a sizable percent of the vote, that could facilitate some actual change instead of just having one corrupt party periodically replacing the other.
  • BoatShoes
    fish82 wrote: I think the economy will have turned around enough by 2012 to pull him across the finish line. And if by that time the GOP controls congress, I'm fine with that scenario.
    I think this is more likely and, historically, this is when spending drops the most. I think there could be some astounding budget fights.
  • fish82
    BoatShoes wrote:
    fish82 wrote: I think the economy will have turned around enough by 2012 to pull him across the finish line. And if by that time the GOP controls congress, I'm fine with that scenario.
    I think this is more likely and, historically, this is when spending drops the most. I think there could be some astounding budget fights.
    Assuming the GOP gets their heads out of their asses and gets back to the 1995-1999 mentality, I agree.