Iran to further enrich uranium
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eersandbeersptown_trojans_1 wrote:
1. Iran has proved, since 1979 that they can stand up to the U.S. One way to say, look the U.S. is wrong, it to open up all their facilities. That would eliminate doubt and also say that the U.S. was wrong.
2. True, as the nuclear program is a point of national pride. But, as far as I can tell the people do not want the bomb. Also, the people do not like sanctions, so opening up would ease those.
3. Opening up can end those tomorrow.
4. Actually, since the Qom facility, Russia has been on the side of the U.S. and EU+Ger. It has been China that has been dragging ass.
1. I agree they have stood up to us since '79, but nothing like they are today. I mean intentionally threatening US ships in the Gulf was a bold move.
2. You are correct the Iranian people do not necessarily want a bomb, but they believe they have every right to develop a peaceful nuclear power program. Which is what they believe the government is developing. However, a majority of Iranians said they would abandon the nuclear program if it meant better relations with the US.
3. The Iranian government doesn't want the sanctions to end though. They need an enemy and something to blame domestic ills on. Blaming the US deflects attention away from the government and they try to ensure the people don't want to move closer to the US.
4. I know what Russia has done publicly, but I'd be shocked if they were actually against Iranian actions. What is bad for the US is good for Russia. -
majorspark
IAEA believes Iran working on nuclear warhead.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61H4EH20100218The IAEA has been investigating for several years Western intelligence reports indicating Iran has coordinated efforts to process uranium, test explosives at high altitude and revamp a ballistic missile cone in a way suitable for a nuclear warhead.
In 2007 the United States issued an assessment saying Iran had halted such research in 2003 and probably not resumed it.
But its key Western allies believe Iran continued the program -- and the IAEA report offered independent support for that perception for the first time.
"The information available to the agency is extensive, ... broadly consistent and credible in terms of the technical detail, the time frame in which the activities were conducted and the people and organizations involved," the report said.
"Altogether this raises concerns about the possible existence in Iran of past or current undisclosed activities related to the development of a nuclear payload for a missile."
Amano is seen as more inclined to confront Iran than his predecessor, Mohamed ElBaradei, who retired on December 1.
"Now we see from (available intelligence) that certain activities may have continued after 2004," said a senior official close to the IAEA. "We want to find out from Iran what they've had to do with these nuclear explosive related activities." -
Mr. 300
Fox news is reporting that Iran is now working on a warhead.
This will be Israel's calling card. -
eersandbeers
Doubtful. A war with Iran would severely damage the economics of Europe, the US, Russia, China, and who knows how many other countries.Mr. 300 wrote: Fox news is reporting that Iran is now working on a warhead.
This will be Israel's calling card.
Wars are no longer between those engaged in battle. It involves everyone. -
ptown_trojans_1
What? LOL. Man, I hate the maintstream media and their report on Iran. They always get it wrong.Mr. 300 wrote: Fox news is reporting that Iran is now working on a warhead.
This will be Israel's calling card.
For those you really care about the report, see:
http://www.armscontrolwonk.com/file_download/222/gov2010_10.pdf
Note, there is no reference to a warhead. There is reference to possible military aspect, but a warhead is still years and I mean years away.
(The physics and material needed to actually make a small warhead to put atop their current missiles is well beyond their capabilities)
The portion on high explosives, note the language does not say Iran is building a warhead,42. Among the activities which the Agency has attempted to discuss with Iran are: activities involving high precision detonators fired simultaneously; studies on the initiation of high explosives and missile re-entry body engineering; a project for the conversion of UO2 to UF4, known as “the green salt project”; and various procurement related activities. Specifically, the Agency has, inter alia, sought clarification of the following: whether Iran was engaged in undeclared activities for the production of UF4 (green salt) involving the Kimia Maadan company; whether Iran’s exploding bridgewire detonator activities were solely for civil or conventional military purposes; whether Iran
developed a spherical implosion system, possibly with the assistance of a foreign expert knowledgeable in explosives technology; whether the engineering design and computer modellingstudies aimed at producing a new design for the payload chamber of a missile were for a nuclear payload; and the relationship between various attempts by senior Iranian officials with links to military organizations in Iran to obtain nuclear related technology and equipment.
The summary of the report:Summary
46. While the Agency continues to verify the non-diversion of declared nuclear material in Iran, Iran has not provided the necessary cooperation to permit the Agency to confirm that all nuclear material in Iran is in peaceful activities.
47. Iran is not implementing the requirements contained in the relevant resolutions of the Board of Governors and the Security Council, including implementation of the Additional Protocol, which are essential to building confidence in the exclusively peaceful purpose of its nuclear programme and to resolve outstanding questions. In particular, Iran needs to cooperate in clarifying outstanding issues which give rise to concerns about possible military dimensions to Iran’s nuclear programme, and to implement the modified text of Code 3.1 of the Subsidiary Arrangements General Part on the early provision of design information.
48. Contrary to the relevant resolutions of the Board of Governors and the Security Council, Iran has continued with the operation of PFEP and FEP at Natanz, and the construction of a new enrichment plant at Fordow. Iran has also announced the intention to build ten new enrichment plants. Iran recently began feeding low enriched UF6 produced at FEP into one cascade of PFEP with the aim of enriching it up to 20% in U-235. The period of notice provided by Iran regarding related changes made to PFEP was insufficient for the Agency to adjust the existing safeguards procedures before Iran started to feed the material into PFEP. The Agency’s work to verify FFEP and to understand the original purpose of the facility and the chronology of its design and construction remain ongoing. Iran is not providing access to information such as the original design documentation for FFEP or access to companies involved in the design and construction of the plant.
49. Contrary to the relevant resolutions of the Board of Governors and the Security Council, Iran has also continued with the construction of the IR-40 reactor and related heavy water activities. The Agency has not been permitted to take samples of the heavy water which is stored at UCF, and has not been provided with access to the Heavy Water Production Plant.
50. The Director General requests Iran to take steps towards the full implementation of its Safeguards Agreement and its other obligations, including the implementation of its Additional Protocol. -
Al CaponeHopefully Israel (with the help of the U.S.) blows the hell out of that shit hole of a country.
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ptown_trojans_1
Uhhhhh, no.Al Capone wrote: Hopefully Israel (with the help of the U.S.) blows the hell out of that shit hole of a country.
That makes no sense.
All the costs would outweigh the benefits. Think Iraq circa 2005 only 10x worse. -
Footwedge
70 millian dead Iranians...you good with that? Did you plan where you were born?Al Capone wrote: Hopefully Israel (with the help of the U.S.) blows the hell out of that shit hole of a country. -
dwccrew
You're a smart one, aren't you?Al Capone wrote: Hopefully Israel (with the help of the U.S.) blows the hell out of that shit hole of a country. -
FootwedgeIran is calling for a nuclear weapon free world and would like the US to lead the way. Both the AIPAC lobby and the bellicose Israeli government will ratchet up the war talk now, due to the "weakness" of Ayatola Komeini. Happens every time.
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ptown_trojans_1
If Iran wants that great. But, Iran needs to fully cooperate with the IAEA, open up all their sites, adhere to the 2003 Safeguard Agreement, sign the Additional Protocol, fully address the military aspects outlined in the IAEA report and ratchet down the rhetoric itself.