Police using ERAD readers to take money from "suspects" without charges ...

• O-Trap

  

  This is about a year old, but I hadn't heard about it until now. Apparently, in Oklahoma, you need to be able to "prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money" to ensure you could keep that from happening.
  
  Utter bullshit.
  
  Since this has to do with the legality of the matter, it seemed like the most sensible forum for it was the Politics forum.
  
  [video=youtube;tDStvSIxFiI][/video]
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Blue lives matter!
  How dare you! lol.
  
  Yeah, this goes along the line of stories where local police departments are getting more and more aggressive on things, especially taking funds and items.
  Post did a big series of stories about this last year I think.
  
  Def. something to keep tabs on and most importantly, to know our rights.
• O-Trap

  

  "If you can prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money, it will be given back to you."
  
  It seems to me that that is one of those phrases that kind of explains how things work, but that you don't just come out and say, because it's such a gross bastardization of constitutional rights.
  
  1. Asset forfeiture
  2. "Can you prove that we shouldn't have taken this from you?"
  3. Guess not. Keeping it.
  
  How is that not punishing first, and then asking someone to prove their innocence (ie, that they didn't deserve the already-administered punishment without due process)?
  
  There can't possibly be people who advocate for this.
• gut

  A bunch of cash with a bunch of drugs is one thing....but draining a bank account? That is unbelievable. No way could that be legal. I guess the lesson would be don't link your ATM/Debit card to your savings account and keep a minimum in your checking.
• Devils Advocate

  

  Ohio appears to have this somewhat under control.
  
  http://rightoncrime.com/2017/01/ohio-gov-kasich-signs-bill-bringing-major-civil-forfeiture-reform-to-buckeye-state/
• O-Trap

  

  gut;1837784 wrote:A bunch of cash with a bunch of drugs is one thing....but draining a bank account? That is unbelievable. No way could that be legal. I guess the lesson would be don't link your ATM/Debit card to your savings account and keep a minimum in your checking.

  I'm ready to get a pre-loaded VCC and start carrying that around.
• gut

  O-Trap;1837799 wrote:I'm ready to get a pre-loaded VCC and start carrying that around.

  Why not just use a regular old credit card? There's no cash reserves there to confiscate. Unless you're charging hookers and blow to your CC there's nothing to worry about.
• O-Trap

  

  gut;1837809 wrote:Why not just use a regular old credit card? There's no cash reserves there to confiscate. Unless you're charging hookers and blow to your CC there's nothing to worry about.

  I have one of those, but I like the anonymity from VCCs. Though hell, that might make me look more suspicious.
• salto

  

  O-Trap;1837754 wrote: There can't possibly be people who advocate for this.

  The type of person who advocates this, also is for implanting GPS tracking devices into felons.
• O-Trap

  

  salto;1837823 wrote:The type of person who advocates this, also is for implanting GPS tracking devices into felons.

  Well-played.
• gut

  O-Trap;1837819 wrote:I have one of those, but I like the anonymity from VCCs. Though hell, that might make me look more suspicious.

  You always have comments like this, so you're either uber paranoid or doing something shady.
• O-Trap

  

  gut;1837828 wrote:You always have comments like this, so you're either uber paranoid or doing something shady.

  If it were a big inconvenience to get a VCC, perhaps, but it's easy enough that it just seems like a common sense precaution to me.
  
  I only meant to say that if I had a VCC on me with a name other than mine (which is something that can be done with one), it might look suspicious, even if I'm not doing anything remotely criminal with it.
  
  The shadiest thing I do is poke around in the deep web when I'm bored.