Death of Democratic Party and Liberial ideology

• Belly35

  

  The death of the Democratic Party is drawing near, their true identity blowen, their class against clas, gender against gender, race against race politics uncovered, unwavering ability to change, overlooking the rural Amerian values, standards, moral, out of touch with the issue of every day American families and most of all patriotism to the Consitution, America traditions and values.... Trump got it ... America First
  
  Following in a close second death spiral is the Liberal media, Liberalism and Hollywood ..... No longer will they be taken serious or be viewed as meaningful reporting establishment, Hollywood special agenda will be a joke supported by a few mindless screaming fans.
  
  America is serious about America ...
  
  
  Marching with pink hats, black banners, rainbow pants and snowflake mentality does not produce but one thing apathy if you don't take yourself serious no one else can.
  Hollywood Liberals joked, laughted and ridiculed Trump, just a demonstration of Liberals self centered, elitist beliefs in your own lies, waddling in their own skewed reporting, circle jerk of protected wealthy untouchable knowing what right for everyone else. keep your political opinion to yourself because Americans that care for America do not care what you have to say...
• Spock

  

  Wonderful
• Heretic

  

  Just a few months ago, we were talking about the death of the Republican Party as it is. Then they win the presidency and now the Democratic Party is near-death.
  
  Doubt it.
• HitsRus

  

  To be frank, both political parties as we know them are already dead. The Dems have morphed into the Progressive party, and the Pubs have surrendered to an alternate version of the Tea Party. TrueDemocrats and Republicans are an endangered species...moderates( those willing to work with the other side) are pressured to move to the extreme.
  Not Good... not good at all.
• Heretic

  

  HitsRus;1834719 wrote:To be frank, both political parties as we know them are already dead. The Dems have morphed into the Progressive party, and the Pubs have surrendered to an alternate version of the Tea Party. TrueDemocrats and Republicans are an endangered species...moderates( those willing to work with the other side) are pressured to move to the extreme.
  Not Good... not good at all.

  I'd agree more with that. To me, it seems like the main tenet of both parties now has less to do with having an actual philosophy and more to do with simply opposing the other party. It's less about actually working to get positive and productive things done and more about keeping people in a "WE WON" or "THEY CHEATED US" mentality.
• fish82

  

  I don't think the "death" of the party is imminent, but they certainly aren't doing themselves any favors lately if they're serious about regaining power anytime soon.
• salto

  

  Belly35;1834694 wrote:The death of the Republicunt Party is drawing near, their true identity blowen, their class against clas, gender against gender, race against race politics uncovered, unwavering ability to change, overlooking the rural Amerian values, standards, moral, out of touch with the issue of every day American families and most of all patriotism to the Consitution, America traditions and values.... Trump got it ... America First
  
  ...

  
  Fixed it for you. Trump has made America hate again.
• iclfan2

  

  fish82;1834780 wrote:I don't think the "death" of the party is imminent, but they certainly aren't doing themselves any favors lately if they're serious about regaining power anytime soon.

  Agreed. The crying about everything is going to get old for even moderate people.
  
  
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• Heretic

  

  iclfan2;1834785 wrote:Agreed. The crying about everything is going to get old for even moderate people.
  
  
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  True. I know I was getting annoying the last eight years by Quaker and a couple others.
• ppaw1999

  http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/a-party-without-conscience/ar-AAmmaQW?ocid=spartandhp
  
  Sounds like both parties need a major overhaul and the sooner the better.
• like_that

  

  HitsRus;1834719 wrote:To be frank, both political parties as we know them are already dead. The Dems have morphed into the Progressive party, and the Pubs have surrendered to an alternate version of the Tea Party. TrueDemocrats and Republicans are an endangered species...moderates( those willing to work with the other side) are pressured to move to the extreme.
  Not Good... not good at all.

  Pretty much this. This is why depending on where people lean, you won't even see them consider voting for the other major party. If the Dems threw out a moderate candidate that wasn't being pulled by the wacko regressives, I would definitely consider voting for him/her. The democrats have gone so far left (and continue to go further) that I could never support their agenda. I am sure liberals feel the same way about the GOP.
• gut

  Both parties reflect the polarization of the voters. A LOT of voters are unhappy....that's to be expected, in no small part, when people are struggling economically - everyone wants a handout, and there's only so much to go around.
• HitsRus

  

  salto;1834782 wrote:Fixed it for you. Trump has made America hate again.

  Trump is the result of the political application of Newton's Third law.
  
  But Trump didn't start the 'hate". That started with leftist progressives pushing their agenda too hard....and when they won, they spiked the ball and pushed harder.
  They assaulted good well meaning people, as imperfect as they might be with names like "racist, "homophobe", "sexist", and called them bigots. In their elitist self righteousness, they attacked and upset people's worldview, and long held sacred institutions, people and heroes, and symbols. They used the Constitution like a hammer where they could, then attacked it when it didn't suit their agenda. If their demands were not met, they used guilt, shame, and intimidation to coerce the weak and bring down the strong.
  Trump is the push back....the horrible ugly pushback.
  ....and there are no signs of moderation and good faith anywhere.
• sleeper

  

  HitsRus;1834865 wrote:Trump is the result of the political application of Newton's Third law.
  
  But Trump didn't start the 'hate". That started with leftist progressives pushing their agenda too hard....and when they won, they spiked the ball and pushed harder.
  They assaulted good well meaning people, as imperfect as they might be with names like "racist, "homophobe", "sexist", and called them bigots. In their elitist self righteousness, they attacked and upset people's worldview, and long held sacred institutions, people and heroes, and symbols. They used the Constitution like a hammer where they could, then attacked it when it didn't suit their agenda. If their demands were not met, they used guilt, shame, and intimidation to coerce the weak and bring down the strong.
  Trump is the push back....the horrible ugly pushback.
  ....and there are no signs of moderation and good faith anywhere.

  This is probably a fair assessment of the situation. Couple that with a weak opposing candidate and you get the recipe for the current disaster that is Trump.
• bases_loaded

  

  Weak opposing candidate? The most qualified person to ever run for POTUS is not "weak". Democrats lost because people are tired of compromise meaning you submit to the progressive side. We had people taking bakeries to court rather than going up the street to a different bakery and telling all their friends to not go to said bakery when they didn't make a cake. If you opposed anything Obama did...you were labeled a racist. People are tired of being told how to think and what to do and the result is Donald J Trump.
  
  SOURCE https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/14/is-hillary-clinton-the-most-experienced-presidential-candidate-in-history/?utm_term=.f2f305abd3de
• sleeper

  

  bases_loaded;1834876 wrote:Weak opposing candidate? The most qualified person to ever run for POTUS is not "weak". Democrats lost because people are tired of compromise meaning you submit to the progressive side. We had people taking bakeries to court rather than going up the street to a different bakery and telling all their friends to not go to said bakery when they didn't make a cake. If you opposed anything Obama did...you were labeled a racist. People are tired of being told how to think and what to do and the result is Donald J Trump.
  
  SOURCE https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/14/is-hillary-clinton-the-most-experienced-presidential-candidate-in-history/?utm_term=.f2f305abd3de

  Yes she was a weak candidate. She had zero charisma, was tied to the banks, broke the law, had the Benghazi scandel, called Americans 'Delorables', didn't campaign, and had a entitled attitude to the Presidency.
  
  With that said, she was qualified and I'd take her over the current fascist we have in the White House.
• queencitybuckeye

  bases_loaded;1834876 wrote:Weak opposing candidate? The most qualified person to ever run for POTUS is not "weak".

  Accepting (for sake of argument purposes only) that your second sentence is accurate (in reality, it's shit, as you only need to go four names down the list to find two inarguably more qualified), the strength of candidates is measured in votes, not qualifications. The fact that millions who came out to vote for Obama stayed home this time had as much to do with the loss than anything the winning side did. IOW, she and the rig job on her nomination lost the election as much or more than Trump won it.
• bases_loaded

  

  I have a feeling the votes Bernie would've brought mostly would've upped her numbers in New York, California, Oregon...etc. Those that stayed home are obviously racist but besides that some of you are so deep into the trees you can't see the forest.
• queencitybuckeye

  bases_loaded;1834889 wrote: Those that stayed home are obviously racist

  Those who stayed home found HRC lacking as a candidate to the degree that their partisanship lost out to their distrust of her. The people in the trees are those on the losing side who don't recognize that the reason they lost was that they put up garbage as a candidate, making a Trump presidency possible.
• Heretic

  

  bases_loaded;1834876 wrote:Weak opposing candidate? The most qualified person to ever run for POTUS is not "weak". Democrats lost because people are tired of compromise meaning you submit to the progressive side. We had people taking bakeries to court rather than going up the street to a different bakery and telling all their friends to not go to said bakery when they didn't make a cake. If you opposed anything Obama did...you were labeled a racist. People are tired of being told how to think and what to do and the result is Donald J Trump.
  
  SOURCE https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/14/is-hillary-clinton-the-most-experienced-presidential-candidate-in-history/?utm_term=.f2f305abd3de

  bases_loaded;1834889 wrote:I have a feeling the votes Bernie would've brought mostly would've upped her numbers in New York, California, Oregon...etc. Those that stayed home are obviously racist but besides that some of you are so deep into the trees you can't see the forest.

  Lol. Goes from being upset at blanket "you're racist" statements to making one within 30 minutes. It's always entertaining when guys like you and CC are the ones trying to make the points!
• bases_loaded

  

  Over your head I guess. Obvious sarcasm in 2nd post.
• Heretic

  

  Huh, so for you, sarcasm is essentially not that different from the whiny, butthurt rhetoric you've been using over the years? Good to know.
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• bases_loaded

  

  I think it's ridiculous they labeled anyone opposed to Obama a racist for 8 years. In your world only white people are racist? If those that opposed obama were racist because he was black, then those who stayed home and didn't vote because the candidate wasn't blank are too? Right? Of course neither are, some probably but blanket statements with no regard for repercussions are for the 24 news cycle.
  
  
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• GOONx19

  

  I personally have never heard anyone labeled as a racist for opposing Obamacare.