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Trump vs. Hillary (NO OTHER OPTIONS)

  • Heretic
    O-Trap;1821662 wrote:At the very least, the Republican probably would have been favored. Some might have still been semi-easy to vilify, but not to this degree. If Paul Ryan had won the nomination, he would've been a slam dunk. If Mitt had come back and won the nomination, he would have been a slam dunk. If Rand Paul had won the nomination, he would have been a slam dunk. I think Ben Carson would have made Hillary look like a complete asshole by comparison. Cruz probably would have been an odds-on favorite, as well.

    But with the election gift-wrapped, the Republican public bought into the candidate with the best marketing campaign, and now, according to Vegas odds, only has a 20-25% chance of beating a candidate who is still being investigated for criminal activity.

    Tommy Lee Jones said it in Men In Black: "A person is smart; people are stupid."
    I think it goes back to how the Rs started with double-digit candidates, setting up a situation where the one getting the early momentum was the one who created the most soundbites simply because it was so hard for anyone to stand out from the pack on pure merits. By the time a lot of the also-rans accepted reality, he had all the momentum based solely on his ability to make cutting remarks towards the other candidates. The problem being, of course, that said momentum only lasts as long as it takes to get the party nomination and after that point, it's a whole new game.

    This is just a bizarre time. Both parties could say they'd win in a landslide if they had ANYONE else as their candidate.
  • fish82
    sleeper;1821763 wrote:Trump won't break 200 Electoral votes. Seriously.
    Seriously.
  • SportsAndLady
    like_that;1821765 wrote:Big, if true.
    I lol'd
  • jedbartlet02
    fish82;1821762 wrote:NH trending red this morning...CO squarely in play and headed south for Hillary. The dam is cracking in multiple spots.

    This thing will end up looking more like 1980 than 2012 when the dust settles Tuesday night.
    There was also another poll that came out that has her up 10 in Colorado...just depends who's polls you trust

    I think this race mirrors 2000 more than any other
  • jedbartlet02
    http://cookpolitical.com/story/10128

    Pretty neat read

    Says we will be reading one of the 5 articles included Wednesday morning

    IMO....# 3 is the most likely outcome
  • O-Trap
    Heretic;1821769 wrote:This is just a bizarre time. Both parties could say they'd win in a landslide if they had ANYONE else as their candidate.
    And honestly, I think both parties would be correct.
    jedbartlet02;1821774 wrote:There was also another poll that came out that has her up 10 in Colorado...just depends who's polls you trust
    Trust in Vegas. They're just trying to get paid.
  • QuakerOats
    like_that;1821765 wrote:Big, if true.

    ROFLMAO!
  • thavoice
    sleeper;1821763 wrote:Trump won't break 200 Electoral votes. Seriously.
    I bet early on in the reporting trump jumps out to a almost insurmountable lead up to 3 times the votes of Killary, a 3-1 advantage so to speak, only to have HRC come back and win the election....
  • O-Trap
    thavoice;1821805 wrote:I bet early on in the reporting trump jumps out to a almost insurmountable lead up to 3 times the votes of Killary, a 3-1 advantage so to speak, only to have HRC come back and win the election....
    Too soon. LOL
  • thavoice
    O-Trap;1821812 wrote:Too soon. LOL
    The Golden St collapse was way back in June.....that is too soon?
  • QuakerOats
    thavoice;1821805 wrote:I bet early on in the reporting trump jumps out to a almost insurmountable lead up to 3 times the votes of Killary, a 3-1 advantage so to speak, only to have HRC come back and win the election....

    Probably ................Clinton Foundation is too corrupt to fail; I mean too big to fail.
  • QuakerOats
    Mich tied
    Trump up in NH


    Trump landslide in the making?
  • sleeper
    QuakerOats;1821966 wrote:Mich tied
    Trump up in NH


    Trump landslide in the making?
    No.
  • jedbartlet02
    QuakerOats;1821966 wrote:Mich tied
    Trump up in NH


    Trump landslide in the making?
    According to who?
  • like_that
    QuakerOats;1821966 wrote:Mich tied
    Trump up in NH


    Trump landslide in the making?
    lol, no he isn't and no he won't win in a landslide. Even with the polls tightening Trumps ground game will doom him. This is like 2012 when Romney had a late surge, but the turnout was not in his favor.
  • thavoice
    QuakerOats;1821966 wrote:Mich tied
    Trump up in NH


    Trump landslide in the making?

    I will believe that when Karl Rove declares it to be true......
  • Heretic
    QQ's getting full up in his 2012 "ROMNEY HAS IT IN. THE. BAG." shit now, essentially ensuring that Clinton wins.
  • friendfromlowry
    I wonder if there's a spike in alcohol sales over the next few days.
  • CenterBHSFan
    Well, for all of the doubters on both sides:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/nate-silver-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-election-prediction-2016-11
    "So she's one state away from potentially losing the electoral college. You'd rather be in her shoes than Donald Trump's, but it's not a terribly safe position."
  • Wolves of Babylon
    Let me be the first to thank the Republican voters who got Trump nominated. Thanks to you, we are going to have Hilary Clinton for President.

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  • Crimson streak
    I think it will all come down to PA. If trump can flip PA I think he wins. One thing people aren't talking about in PA is the Amish vote. Living near the Amish country, they are paying people that will drive them to go vote, and none of there votes have been calculated into the polls. It will definitely be interesting to see if that has an impact or not.


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  • jedbartlet02
  • jedbartlet02
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/create_your_own_president_map.html

    My final guess
  • like_that
    Crimson streak;1822277 wrote:I think it will all come down to PA. If trump can flip PA I think he wins. One thing people aren't talking about in PA is the Amish vote. Living near the Amish country, they are paying people that will drive them to go vote, and none of there votes have been calculated into the polls. It will definitely be interesting to see if that has an impact or not.


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    Hillary wins Florida and it's over. Doesn't matter if Trump miraculously wins PA (he won't).
  • superman
    Philadelphia transit strike settled this morning. Pennsylvania will go blue.