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  • Belly35
    isadore;1759679 wrote:
    Thanks to Obama and the Democratic Socialist Party many new gun owners do not want to registered their weapon nor do they what the government to know they have a weapon. Fear the of the government knowing that information …

    Not Citizen Should Fear Their Government….. and that is where we are at now ..

    So with that fact in mind your poll is completely wrong. See the problem with guys like you, you're not in the real world, there is a whole bunch of you agoraphobias and or SID personalities that are told what to think, want they want you to know and what you're to do. You never venture out beyond those criteria.

    I'm going to even say that you have never fired a weapon in the last 8 years.
    You can name a Shooting Range in your area.
    You know very little about the differences between a automatic weapon and a semi-auto weapon..(you relate the two as the same).
    I am not saying that you have to experience everything that you maybe for or against but this particular topic is something you can experience for yourself and get out to gain street, grass root knowledge.

    I take Democrats (love doing this) that my wife and meet after a few for dinners, group events or church activities, we invite them out to dinner but we go to the Range first. Many times they refuse because it against their character or against guns. So we ask if they ever been to a range or experience that feeling of a weapon. I tell them Ok but here some ear and eye protection just stand inside the shooting Range and watch me or my wife. Within 10 minute they are standing with my instruction in front of a target 15 feet away. One shot, one target hit and one new adventure.
    They will be back, asking if they can go back to the range with us and later they will be rethinking weapon ownership for protection.

    Wife and I have a joke: It’s easy to convert a Democrat to a gun owner that a gun owner to a Democrat
  • O-Trap
    QuakerOats;1759592 wrote:What is the % of blacks in those other countries?
    Belly35;1759593 wrote:
    QuakerOats;1759592 wrote:What is the % of blacks in those other countries?
    Ouch!

    a valid point...
    Guys ...

  • dontcare
    Belly35;1759685 wrote:Thanks to Obama and the Democratic Socialist Party many new gun owners do not want to registered their weapon nor do they what the government to know they have a weapon. Fear the of the government knowing that information …

    Not Citizen Should Fear Their Government….. and that is where we are at now ..

    So with that fact in mind your poll is completely wrong. See the problem with guys like you, you're not in the real world, there is a whole bunch of you agoraphobias and or SID personalities that are told what to think, want they want you to know and what you're to do. You never venture out beyond those criteria.

    I'm going to even say that you have never fired a weapon in the last 8 years.
    You can name a Shooting Range in your area.
    You know very little about the differences between a automatic weapon and a semi-auto weapon..(you relate the two as the same).
    I am not saying that you have to experience everything that you maybe for or against but this particular topic is something you can experience for yourself and get out to gain street, grass root knowledge.

    I take Democrats (love doing this) that my wife and meet after a few for dinners, group events or church activities, we invite them out to dinner but we go to the Range first. Many times they refuse because it against their character or against guns. So we ask if they ever been to a range or experience that feeling of a weapon. I tell them Ok but here some ear and eye protection just stand inside the shooting Range and watch me or my wife. Within 10 minute they are standing with my instruction in front of a target 15 feet away. One shot, one target hit and one new adventure.
    They will be back, asking if they can go back to the range with us and later they will be rethinking weapon ownership for protection.

    Wife and I have a joke: It’s easy to convert a Democrat to a gun owner that a gun owner to a Democrat
    Excellent post Belly. You can't argue with the sheep, they just don't understand.
  • isadore
    Belly35;1759685 wrote:Thanks to Obama and the Democratic Socialist Party many new gun owners do not want to registered their weapon nor do they what the government to know they have a weapon. Fear the of the government knowing that information …

    Not Citizen Should Fear Their Government….. and that is where we are at now ..

    So with that fact in mind your poll is completely wrong. See the problem with guys like you, you're not in the real world, there is a whole bunch of you agoraphobias and or SID personalities that are told what to think, want they want you to know and what you're to do. You never venture out beyond those criteria.

    I'm going to even say that you have never fired a weapon in the last 8 years.
    You can name a Shooting Range in your area.
    You know very little about the differences between a automatic weapon and a semi-auto weapon..(you relate the two as the same).
    I am not saying that you have to experience everything that you maybe for or against but this particular topic is something you can experience for yourself and get out to gain street, grass root knowledge.

    I take Democrats (love doing this) that my wife and meet after a few for dinners, group events or church activities, we invite them out to dinner but we go to the Range first. Many times they refuse because it against their character or against guns. So we ask if they ever been to a range or experience that feeling of a weapon. I tell them Ok but here some ear and eye protection just stand inside the shooting Range and watch me or my wife. Within 10 minute they are standing with my instruction in front of a target 15 feet away. One shot, one target hit and one new adventure.
    They will be back, asking if they can go back to the range with us and later they will be rethinking weapon ownership for protection.

    Wife and I have a joke: It’s easy to convert a Democrat to a gun owner that a gun owner to a Democrat
    gosh a ruddies, Mr. Belly, the site you cite uses a Gallup stat, when I go directly to the Gallup site for the true information, what do you say, "your poll is completely wrong."
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/1645/Guns.aspx
  • Heretic
    O-Trap;1759714 wrote:Guys ...

    Can't expect much from old racist fucks who basically exist to boast about their stupidity.
  • HitsRus
    isadore;1759631 wrote:the veto a gun nut NRA minority has on any meaningful gun legislation will in the long run bring a reaction against gun ownership
    as the number of gun owners and the number of hunters continues to decline.
    Originally Posted by isadore
    The number continues to decline??? The poll shows gun ownership to be pretty stable over the past 55 years....and actually increasing substantially since 1998.
  • isadore
    HitsRus;1759907 wrote:The number continues to decline??? The poll shows gun ownership to be pretty stable over the past 55 years....and actually increasing substantially since 1998.
    Gosh a ruddies, not even close. only once does it reach the level it had in 1960, every other year consistently below it. And showing in the last three decades on average of a 20% decline what it was in 1960. The march of history leaves gun ownership in its dust.
  • HitsRus
    LOL...only an idiot looks at that graph and comes to that conclusion. It's the same as 30 years ago.
  • gut
    HitsRus;1759950 wrote:LOL...only an idiot looks at that graph and comes to that conclusion. It's the same as 30 years ago.
    You could make the case the long-run average is down from about 45% to 40%.

    What's interesting is you have a steep fall-off about the same time as an observed steep drop in crime, which Freakanomics famously attributed to abortion. The takeaway - fewer thugs getting fewer guns, and fewer people needing guns to protect themselves from said thugs.
  • isadore
    HitsRus;1759950 wrote:LOL...only an idiot looks at that graph and comes to that conclusion. It's the same as 30 years ago.
    gosh a ruddies it is always nice to get a variety of opinions. It was nice of you to present the views of the delusional gun nuts and their acolytes. People who can look at that chart and not see the marked decline in gun ownership in recent history.
  • queencitybuckeye
    Was this a survey with that single question, or was it part of a larger, lifestyle type of survey?

    If the former, I would choose not to participate. If the latter, I'd skip the question if allowed, lie if not.
  • dontcare
    queencitybuckeye;1759969 wrote:Was this a survey with that single question, or was it part of a larger, lifestyle type of survey?

    If the former, I would choose not to participate. If the latter, I'd skip the question if allowed, lie if not.
    Exactly. I probably have more firearms then everyone on this board, but if the question was asked in a poll like the one being shown, I would say no like thousands of people would and do. Gun ownership by law abiding citizens has never been higher then now and will continue to grow. I don't care what kind of poll charts the sheep wanna post. The sheep will never understand. Stay armed my friends.
  • isadore
    gosh a ruddies, an epidemic of cognitive dissonance among the gun nuts.
  • rmolin73
    http://www.clickorlando.com/news/man-accidentally-shot-while-at-sanford-cracker-barrel/36189604
  • QuakerOats
    dontcare;1759980 wrote: The sheep will never understand. Stay armed my friends.
    True.


    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/320651-germany-refugees-crisis-bavaria/
  • Spock
    isadore;1758774 wrote:Gosh a ruddies, oh the horrible violence situation in Australia
    Murder Rates per 100,000
    Canada 1.6
    United States 4.7
    Japan 0.3
    Denmark 0.8
    Norway 2.2
    Ireland 1.2
    Sweden 0.7
    Italy 0.9
    UK 1.0
    Germany 0.8
    France 1.0
    Australia 1.1
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
    Cities like chicago skew those numbers
  • isadore
    Spock;1760762 wrote:Cities like chicago skew those numbers
    gosh a ruddies well who shots up that number well the state with the highest murder rates are by far Louisiana at 10.3 and Mississippi at 8.6
    http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state#MRord
  • Belly35
    isadore;1760770 wrote:gosh a ruddies well who shots up that number well the state with the highest murder rates are by far Louisiana at 10.3 and Mississippi at 8.6
    http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state#MRord
    Where in any of this website was GUNS mentioned?

    Murder rate ..... so in your mind Murder = Guns
    Murder cover a big range of potential: .... baseball bat, knife, chainsaw, car accident (alcohol), cement block, child abuse, starvation, iron skillet, hanging, pillow, drug over does, prescription drug, pitch fork, shove, spear, push out a window, antifreeze, carbon dioxides….. so Murder can be classified as any instrumentation used as a means of killing someone … Murder does not mean Guns…
  • Belly35
    Isadore you're like a sheep with plastic ears.


    Generation of Democrat run cities crime rate soaring…
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/09/gun-crime-soaring-in-these-democrat-run-cities/

    The bottom line, for now, is that these Democrat-run cities are violent. And their violence is of a sort that gun control can’t fix because control only affects law-abiding citizens. To respond to this kind of crime with laws that force law-abiding citizens to jump through more hoops to get guns is only to put law-abiding citizens in a place where defending themselves becomes more and more difficult.


    Application for Conceal Carry has lowered Chicago Crime rate

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/24/chicago-crime-rate-drops-as-concealed-carry-gun-pe/?page=all
  • isadore
    Belly35;1760876 wrote:Where in any of this website was GUNS mentioned?

    Murder rate ..... so in your mind Murder = Guns
    Murder cover a big range of potential: .... baseball bat, knife, chainsaw, car accident (alcohol), cement block, child abuse, starvation, iron skillet, hanging, pillow, drug over does, prescription drug, pitch fork, shove, spear, push out a window, antifreeze, carbon dioxides….. so Murder can be classified as any instrumentation used as a means of killing someone … Murder does not mean Guns…
    gosh a ruddies over 2/3s US homicides by guns according to FBI stats
    https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2009-2013.xls
  • isadore
    Belly35;1760879 wrote:Isadore you're like a sheep with plastic ears.


    Generation of Democrat run cities crime rate soaring…
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/09/gun-crime-soaring-in-these-democrat-run-cities/

    The bottom line, for now, is that these Democrat-run cities are violent. And their violence is of a sort that gun control can’t fix because control only affects law-abiding citizens. To respond to this kind of crime with laws that force law-abiding citizens to jump through more hoops to get guns is only to put law-abiding citizens in a place where defending themselves becomes more and more difficult.


    Application for Conceal Carry has lowered Chicago Crime rate

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/24/chicago-crime-rate-drops-as-concealed-carry-gun-pe/?page=all
    gosh a ruddies and what are the two states with the highest homicide rates, not Illinois, no its is by far Louisiana and Mississippi, two states with without strong gun restrictions.
  • Belly35
    So I ask a question about a website /graph you posted ( Post # 43) and you regurgitate another website with more graphs.
    You cant communicate your own thoughts, opinions and expressions ..... so sad .
  • Belly35
    isadore;1761034 wrote:gosh a ruddies and what are the two states with the highest homicide rates, not Illinois, no its is by far Louisiana and Mississippi, two states with without strong gun restrictions.
    Did you even read the two article?

    so now the word Homicide = GUNS.... you do know people can die of blunt force injuries ...
  • isadore
    Belly35;1761097 wrote:So I ask a question about a website /graph you posted ( Post # 43) and you regurgitate another website with more graphs.
    You cant communicate your own thoughts, opinions and expressions ..... so sad .
    Gosh a ruddies gosh I provided you with information that answers your inquiries and invalidate your claims. And you still don't get it. Gosh you are a turnip who happens to type.
  • isadore
    Belly35;1761102 wrote:Did you even read the two article?

    so now the word Homicide = GUNS.... you do know people can die of blunt force injuries ...
    gosh a ruddies of course I did. wow breitbart, what a reputation. You rave on and on about Chicago, Illinois and I provide the names of the two bloodiest states in the USA. both deep red states with a laissez faire view toward gun regulation.