The barbarism that is Planned Parenthood

• sleeper

  

  Con_Alma;1790843 wrote:I can with certain say your post is not my position what-so-ever and my opinion on the question originally asked was not Biblically based.

  I really don't care about what your position. My statement is only to definitively state that your position is not rooted in science, logic or reality. If it's not rooted in those 3, it's irrelevant and only belongs in a dumpster along with the rest of the trash of society.
• jmog

  sleeper;1790830 wrote:That's great. But you do not have the right to make that choice for other women who may think differently than you.
  
  My stance is quite simple; don't like abortion? Don't have one.

  Unless you can find a post and quote it where I have said that abortion should be illegal in all cases, even rape and safety of the mother, I suggest you actually read what was posted.
• QuakerOats

  sleeper;1790845 wrote:I really don't care about what your position. My statement is only to definitively state that your position is not rooted in science, logic or reality. If it's not rooted in those 3, it's irrelevant and only belongs in a dumpster along with the rest of the trash of society.

  
  We get it; you don't believe in your Creator.
  
  Move on.
• sleeper

  

  jmog;1790846 wrote:Unless you can find a post and quote it where I have said that abortion should be illegal in all cases, even rape and safety of the mother, I suggest you actually read what was posted.

  I wasn't disagreeing with you. Just wanted to add to your post.
• superman

  sleeper;1790830 wrote:
  My stance is quite simple; don't like abortion? Don't have one.

  The exact same argument was used by the pro-slavery movement.
• sleeper

  

  QuakerOats;1790847 wrote:We get it; you don't believe in your Creator.
  
  Move on.

  Believe? No I don't believe in things that are not supported by logic, evidence, or reason.
  
  Why do I care then? Because the people that do believe in this trash and want policy to reflect those ignorant beliefs exist to restrict the rights of others in a free country. These people are trash and deserve nothing.
  
  Also abortion is legal. Move on!
• sleeper

  

  superman;1790850 wrote:The exact same argument was used by the pro-slavery movement.

  Right because the owning of one person, a free individual with equal rights, is the same as telling women what to do with their bodies because you believe in an invisible ghost in the sky.
  
  Nice though!
• jmog

  sleeper;1790849 wrote:I wasn't disagreeing with you. Just wanted to add to your post.

  That's not actually what you said, unless you have a terrible understanding of the English language (which you do not). You just changed your stance when you realized I was right (that I haven't ever said that abortions should be illegal in all cases).
  
  You have a personal need to ALWAYS be "right", if that makes you feel better about yourself then so be it.
  
  The rest of us see right through you though. It is possible to admit mistakes.
• jmog

  sleeper;1790852 wrote:Right because the owning of one person, a free individual with equal rights, is the same as telling women what to do with their bodies because you believe in an invisible ghost in the sky.
  
  Nice though!

  Reading comprehension, he didn't say the two were morally equal, he said that the same argument was used.
• sleeper

  

  jmog;1790853 wrote:That's not actually what you said, unless you have a terrible understanding of the English language (which you do not). You just changed your stance when you realized I was right (that I haven't ever said that abortions should be illegal in all cases).
  
  You have a personal need to ALWAYS be "right", if that makes you feel better about yourself then so be it.
  
  The rest of us see right through you though. It is possible to admit mistakes.

  Thanks Dad.
• sleeper

  

  jmog;1790854 wrote:Reading comprehension, he didn't say the two were morally equal, he said that the same argument was used.

  They are not comparable. That is the entire point. One doesn't need to rely on reading comprehension when the logic is broken; you reject what the person stated and place them in the pool of those lower than average.
• Con_Alma

  sleeper;1790845 wrote:I really don't care about what your position. My statement is only to definitively state that your position is not rooted in science, logic or reality. If it's not rooted in those 3, it's irrelevant and only belongs in a dumpster along with the rest of the trash of society.

  You are welcomed to "put it", my position, wherever you choose.
• Con_Alma

  sleeper;1790851 wrote:Believe? No I don't believe in things that are not supported by logic, evidence, or reason.
  
  Why do I care then? Because the people that do believe in this trash and want policy to reflect those ignorant beliefs exist to restrict the rights of others in a free country. These people are trash and deserve nothing.
  
  Also abortion is legal. Move on!

  Has anyone in this thread advocated for restricting the rights of others?
• sleeper

  

  Con_Alma;1790862 wrote:You are welcomed to "put it", my position, wherever you choose.

  I don't need your blessing. This is America; land of legal abortions and equal rights for women.
• sleeper

  

  Con_Alma;1790863 wrote:Has anyone in this thread advocated for restricting the rights of others?

  Yes. You would like women to give birth if their life is in danger. That is restricting the rights of others and is extremely barbaric. The irony.
• Con_Alma

  sleeper;1790864 wrote:I don't need your blessing. This is America; land of legal abortions and equal rights for women.

  I didn't suggest you did.
• Con_Alma

  sleeper;1790865 wrote:Yes. You would like women to give birth if their life is in danger. That is restricting the rights of others and is extremely barbaric. The irony.

  The woman has the right to choose whether she will try and give birth or not. I don't nor do I suggest that I should have that right.
• sleeper

  

  Con_Alma;1790868 wrote:The woman has the right to choose whether she will try and give birth or not. I don't nor do I suggest that I should have that right.

  Correct. And you never will.
• Con_Alma

  sleeper;1790869 wrote:Correct. And you never will.

  I don't expect nor want to. Lol
• jmog

  sleeper;1790869 wrote:Correct. And you never will.

  Once again Sleeper was 100% wrong but can't admit it so just changes what he 'meant'.
• QuakerOats

  sleeper;1790851 wrote:Also abortion is legal. Move on!

  Whether legal or not; it is wrong. And that is what matters.
• sleeper

  

  QuakerOats;1790880 wrote:Whether legal or not; it is wrong. And that is what matters.

  Nope. It's not wrong and it's legal. Enjoy!
• sleeper

  

  jmog;1790872 wrote:Once again Sleeper was 100% wrong but can't admit it so just changes what he 'meant'.

  ???
  
  Con_Alma states he's not okay with abortion even if the woman will DIE from giving birth. Con_Alma values an unborn parasite over the right of a woman to chose to save her own life.
  
  This is 2016. Women are people too. Time to get over it.
• QuakerOats

  sleeper;1790883 wrote:Nope. It's not wrong and it's legal. Enjoy!

  
  May the love of God, the peace of Christ, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you, now and forever. Amen.
• sleeper

  

  QuakerOats;1790902 wrote:May the love of God, the peace of Christ, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you, now and forever. Amen.

  LOL
  
  May you go fuck yourself, now and forever.