Thank god for the protection of government bureaucrats...

• justincredible

  

  Who else is going to protect us from young entrepreneurs?
  
  http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Madison-County-health-department-forces-11-year-ll-242419101.html
• jmog

  She learned a good lesson at 11 years old, don't vote liberals into office, they will create BS regulations .
• gut

  You guys have it all wrong. By shutting her down, those cupcake sales will go Costco, which pays taxes and employs people....I'll be damned, regulations really DO promote economic growth
• justincredible

  

  I posted this story to facebook and one of my best friends (big dem from wv) starts talking about how he is thankful for the department of health shutting down restaurants after the water spill down there. The parallels between that and this allude me, however.
• HitsRus

  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vxEimC3HME
  
  pencil necked paper pushers.....
  
  
  
  yeah, it's about $200 for a license.....kid will have to sell a lot of cupcakes
  
  
  These are the kind of jobs we are creating...we don't make anyhting except rules and regulations and we hire people to push papers around and document that the rules are available, posted, and being followed, so that when an inspector comes to makes sure you are in compliance ( inspection fee applicable) you don't have to pay any additional fines.
• Belly35

  

  "Under the table" Step one to start up entrepreneur
• QuakerOats

  When you don't do common sense, you do government.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Belly35;1574503 wrote:"Under the table" Step one to start up entrepreneur

  I think you mean black market, but it's the first thought that came to my mind, too.
• WebFire

  If she had sold cupcakes a time or two, no problem. But she's been doing it for 2 years. And for money. I'm not sure why her age should make her except from following the rules if she really is running a "business".
• Iliketurtles

  

  WebFire;1574660 wrote:If she had sold cupcakes a time or two, no problem. But she's been doing it for 2 years. And for money. I'm not sure why her age should make her except from following the rules if she really is running a "business".

  This is how I feel as well.
• justincredible

  

  WebFire;1574660 wrote:If she had sold cupcakes a time or two, no problem. But she's been doing it for 2 years. And for money. I'm not sure why her age should make her except from following the rules if she really is running a "business".

  Because the rules are fucking ridiculous in the first place. It's nothing more that a money grab by the government. Unelected bureaucrats pushing a bunch of rules and regulations to finance their own jobs. I do not need "protection" from big government to save me from someone making food in their own house.
• justincredible

  

  But you're right, it's best to teach the kids early that we no longer live in a free country so they don't get any crazy ideas.
• WebFire

  justincredible;1574676 wrote:Because the rules are fucking ridiculous in the first place. It's nothing more that a money grab by the government. Unelected bureaucrats pushing a bunch of rules and regulations to finance their own jobs. I do not need "protection" from big government to save me from someone making food in their own house.

  So you are in favor of deregulation of the food industry? That doesn't sound like a good idea.
• WebFire

  justincredible;1574677 wrote:But you're right, it's best to teach the kids early that we no longer live in a free country so they don't get any crazy ideas.

  A free country does not mean a free-for-all.
• Iliketurtles

  

  justincredible;1574677 wrote:But you're right, it's best to teach the kids early that we no longer live in a free country so they don't get any crazy ideas.

  Yeah you're right lets just teach kids that they don't have to follow rules and regulations that a normal adult would.
• LJ

  

  WebFire;1574660 wrote:If she had sold cupcakes a time or two, no problem. But she's been doing it for 2 years. And for money. I'm not sure why her age should make her except from following the rules if she really is running a "business".

  Agreed.
• LJ

  

  justincredible;1574676 wrote:Because the rules are fucking ridiculous in the first place. It's nothing more that a money grab by the government. Unelected bureaucrats pushing a bunch of rules and regulations to finance their own jobs. I do not need "protection" from big government to save me from someone making food in their own house.

  lol. Because you have the ability to inspect where someone is making that food to ensure that it isnt going to kill you?
  
  Sorry, this is one of the dumbest ones I've heard yet.
• LJ

  

  It's just someone's house, that automatically means it's safe to eat!
  
  
• justincredible

  

  WebFire;1574679 wrote:So you are in favor of deregulation of the food industry? That doesn't sound like a good idea.

  I'm in favor of a 12 year old girl being able to operate a cupcake business from her home without government interference, absolutely.
  
  I don't think a government monopoly on "safety" is a great idea. I'd trust independent agencies for stuff like this a lot more than I trust government. Competing private agencies trying to get their "safe" sticker in the window of a restaurant sounds a lot better than one agency with no threat of competition going through the motions of approving kitchens.
  
  I also believe in the freedoms of choice. I should be able to make the choice to buy cupcakes from a young kid without the govt first telling me it's okay. I would know the risks going in that she isn't "inspected."
• justincredible

  

  LJ;1574688 wrote:It's just someone's house, that automatically means it's safe to eat!
  
  

  I don't recall making that argument. At all. Nice straw man.
• LJ

  

  justincredible;1574689 wrote:I'm in favor of a 12 year old girl being able to operate a cupcake business from her home without government interference, absolutely.
  
  I don't think a government monopoly on "safety" is a great idea. I'd trust independent agencies for stuff like this a lot more than I trust government. Competing private agencies trying to get their "safe" sticker in the window of a restaurant sounds a lot better than one agency with no threat of competition going through the motions of approving kitchens.

  So you want the same regulations, just to privitize inspections?
• WebFire

  justincredible;1574689 wrote:I'm in favor of a 12 year old girl being able to operate a cupcake business from her home without government interference, absolutely.

  So it's because of her age? You know how many parents would run businesses through their kids' names if they could get away from regulations and taxes. And why does a 12 year old know how to make cupcakes better than an adult?
  

  I don't think a government monopoly on "safety" is a great idea. I'd trust independent agencies for stuff like this a lot more than I trust government. Competing private agencies trying to get their "safe" sticker in the window of a restaurant sounds a lot better than one agency with no threat of competition going through the motions of approving kitchens.

  Sure, they shouldn't be policing us to death or protecting us from ourselves on everything. But some things need some regulation. Food is one of them.
  

  I also believe in the freedoms of choice. I should be able to make the choice to buy cupcakes from a young kid without the govt first telling me it's okay. I would know the risks going in that she isn't "inspected."

  There is a difference between freedoms and foolishness.
• LJ

  

  justincredible;1574691 wrote:I don't recall making that argument. At all. Nice straw man.

  ahem
  

  I do not need "protection" from big government to save me from someone making food in their own house.

• Devils Advocate

  

  justincredible;1574689 wrote: I don't think a government monopoly on "safety" is a great idea.
  
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  Lets look at it from another Viewopint. The girl could not do this work in a place of business. The ovens are too hot for a minor to work with. A mixer is defined as a "power tool" under labor laws.
  
  The mom has however taught her kid a lesson. it is : Don't get caught by the man.
• Belly35

  

  ernest_t_bass;1574625 wrote:I think you mean black market, but it's the first thought that came to my mind, too.

  No “Under the table”.. Keep a low profile, sell cash only, build the business slowly, increase customer base, move into the market place with the confidence and knowledge of what is to be expected and with a history of a proven product. Know your market, the potential, the cost, equipment required, health rules.
  
  This little girl and her family took a business and thought it was cute ... letting the media in to have a feel good moment and with out knowledge of Home Grown Business regulations.
  She can still make cup cakes at home but she now has to make sure of the rules and requirement of the health department. An unexpected set back because business is not cute and knowledge of business practice is vital.
  
  If this little girl and her family are smart they can turn this situation into a positive and profitable business adventure.