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The people have spoken, what can the GOP do to gain the Presidency?

  • pmoney25
    Con_Alma;1320159 wrote:...but you're not a Republican. Are you? Those who are Republican are not choosing that route as you have described.

    If someone is "leaning Democrat" they are not going to find what they want in the Republican party.


    What is the republican party about?
  • gut
    BoatShoes;1320155 wrote:I thought this type of elitist condescension was the realm of liberals, eh?
    There is nothing elitist about it. I don't think you would find too many to debate that statement on either side of the aisle. It's a simple and sad reality. The media spin, deflection and distraction works because people are lazy and/or ignorant, which does not necessarily imply they are stupid.
  • jhay78
    BoatShoes;1320123 wrote:I hear what you're saying but I'm not talking about Romney any more...it's the whole Conservative movement. O'Reilly is saying people want stuff...the American Enterprise Institute is putting out a book called "A Nation of Taker's"...Limbaugh is telling people that Hispanics aren't voting for Democrats because of Immigration but because they want free stuff! Etc.
    Immigration and amnesty are secondary issues for Hispanics. Reagan signed a version of amnesty in 1986, and Hispanics showed their appreciation in 1988 by favoring Dukakis over Bush 69%-30%. Reagan got 35% and 37% in '80 and '84.

    http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/11/07/latino-voters-in-the-2012-election/

    Something is pulling them toward the Democrat side by 30 points every cycle. Hmmm . . .
  • Zombaypirate
    believer;1317785 wrote:Oh yeah.......

    You keep on drinkin that koolaid brother because Obama won. The message has been sent LOUD AND CLEAR. you keep on drinkin that koolaid of idiocy and the GOP will keep on losing.
  • Zombaypirate
    pmoney25;1320239 wrote:What is the republican party about?
    The GOP is about invading women's privacy, they are also all about making the wealthy more wealthy at the cost of the middle class. Basically in a nutshell they want the USA to be Mexico.
  • Zombaypirate
    QuakerOats;1320037 wrote:Hysterical; I love it. :laugh:
    That is great! How does it feel to have Obama for 4 more years? You will lose again until you fix what I stated.
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    Zombaypirate;1320354 wrote:That is great! How does it feel to have Obama for 4 more years? You will lose again until you fix what I stated.
    Well the market is reacting. No woman with an IQ above 100 thinks their privacy is being violated. They care more that they have a job, or their husbands have a job, or their children have a job.

    What about Benghazi? McCain needs to step up. I'm not the biggest fan of his, but his foreign service record is beyond reproach, no Rice for SoS. We have enough idiots running the government now.
  • isadore
    jhay78;1320274 wrote:Immigration and amnesty are secondary issues for Hispanics. Reagan signed a version of amnesty in 1986, and Hispanics showed their appreciation in 1988 by favoring Dukakis over Bush 69%-30%. Reagan got 35% and 37% in '80 and '84.

    http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/11/07/latino-voters-in-the-2012-election/

    Something is pulling them toward the Democrat side by 30 points every cycle. Hmmm . . .
    they saw a president who was giving massive tax cuts to the rich and nearly tripling our national debt. they voted to protect our nation as real patriots.
  • Zombaypirate
    Manhattan Buckeye;1320371 wrote:Well the market is reacting. No woman with an IQ above 100 thinks their privacy is being violated. They care more that they have a job, or their husbands have a job, or their children have a job.

    What about Benghazi? McCain needs to step up. I'm not the biggest fan of his, but his foreign service record is beyond reproach, no Rice for SoS. We have enough idiots running the government now.
    Considering the vast majority of women voted for Obama...... nice job insulting them. The GOP is a dismal failure and will continue to be so. Stop threating taking away abortion and planned parenthood it will be good for the GOP's futures.

    Worry about stop making the USA into the new Mexico and the GOP will get lots of votes in fact TONS of votes.
  • BoatShoes
    Con_Alma;1320159 wrote:...but you're not a Republican. Are you? Those who are Republican are not choosing that route as you have described.

    If someone is "leaning Democrat" they are not going to find what they want in the Republican party.
    Ok Fine. Don't try new tactics to persuade people about the supposed virtues of laissez-faire markets and social conservatism. Be my guest. Just contributing some thoughts in a thread devoted to the question of how Republicans can once again win the presidency ;)
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    Zombaypirate;1320382 wrote:Considering the vast majority of women voted for Obama...... nice job insulting them. The GOP is a dismal failure and will continue to be so. Stop threating taking away abortion and planned parenthood it will be good for the GOP's futures.

    Worry about stop making the USA into the new Mexico and the GOP will get lots of votes in fact TONS of votes.
    What woman actually cares about abortion or Planned Parenthood? The irony is that it is you that think that women vote on their "lady parts."

    My wife is pro-choice, but cares more about our fiscal situation. She is more than just a vagina. She isn't having an abortion, she does pay taxes. Unlike most of the people that voted for Obama.
  • BoatShoes
    QuakerOats;1320228 wrote:I know; isn't it amazing how the repubs control 60% of statehouses, not to mention the governorships of 6 of the 10 largest hispanic populated states. How can they do that, and still be so mean.

    :confused:
    I'm sure it's only going to go up from here :thumbup:
  • BoatShoes
    QuakerOats;1320234 wrote:Most plaintiff lawyers are liberal democrats, rich ones too - generally confiscating a third of the amounts due the 'little people', with a straight face no less, then going out to a wine and cheese party. Heroic bunch they are.
    lol...yess...just sitting back enjoying my cheese and wine while suing teh j0b creat0rz :laugh:
  • BoatShoes
    jhay78;1320274 wrote:Immigration and amnesty are secondary issues for Hispanics. Reagan signed a version of amnesty in 1986, and Hispanics showed their appreciation in 1988 by favoring Dukakis over Bush 69%-30%. Reagan got 35% and 37% in '80 and '84.

    http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/11/07/latino-voters-in-the-2012-election/

    Something is pulling them toward the Democrat side by 30 points every cycle. Hmmm . . .
    Look...even if what you're saying is true...I'm not sure it's going to help matters if it's blaring out of the right wing media that "they just want free stuff from santa claus...they don't want to be personally responsible."

    I mean Asians for example, also vote Democrat in droves.....hmmmm....

    Maybe these groups perceive the thinly veiled ethnocentrism being spewed towards them by the right wing media, eh?
  • BoatShoes
    Manhattan Buckeye;1320392 wrote:Unlike most of the people that voted for Obama.


    (Nevermind that most of the states that received federal tax assistance voted for Romney and all the southern whites who voted for Romney in droves :laugh:)
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    ccrunner609;1320401 wrote:Boy so far Obama has really turned it around....stock market is just bleeding daily and he has 3 rounds of golf in already
    And an awesome press conference (sarcasm), that was worse than the first debate. I can't believe for the life of anyone that Susan Rice is even being considered for Secretary of State. Pure idiocy.
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    BoatShoes;1320404 wrote:

    (Nevermind that most of the states that received federal tax assistance voted for Romney and all the southern whites who voted for Romney in droves :laugh:)
    That is one handsome fellow. Enjoying the stock market yet?
  • BoatShoes
    Manhattan Buckeye;1320409 wrote:That is one handsome fellow. Enjoying the stock market yet?
    Up > 60% since he took office good call :laugh:. But, it looks like the markets are currently fearing the austerity bomb right around the corner so long as we don't try to balance the budget too much or too soon we'll be ok (opposite of your advice). So, once again, good call :laugh:
  • BoatShoes
    Manhattan Buckeye;1320406 wrote:And an awesome press conference (sarcasm), that was worse than the first debate. I can't believe for the life of anyone that Susan Rice is even being considered for Secretary of State. Pure idiocy.
    Yeah she's so terrible because she answered questions while relying on the best available evidence at the time :confused:

    Maybe if conservatives relied upon the best available evidence (i.e. polls) they wouldn't be so butthurt right now :cry:
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    BoatShoes;1320420 wrote:Yeah she's so terrible because she answered questions while relying on the best available evidence at the time :confused:

    Maybe if conservatives relied upon the best available evidence (i.e. polls) they wouldn't be so butthurt right now :cry:
    Parrot, parrot, parrot. Party line! Party line! No one can be so stupid to believe that internet video had anything to do with the terrorist attack, yet months later people are still making excuses for it.

    No one can be that stupid. Are you really this stupid?
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/ambassador-susan-rice-libya-attack-not-premeditated/

    Even on the 16th of September the MSM recognized the lies or incompetence. Which is worse?
  • BoatShoes
    Manhattan Buckeye;1320421 wrote:Parrot, parrot, parrot. Party line! Party line! No one can be so stupid to believe that internet video had anything to do with the terrorist attack, yet months later people are still making excuses for it.

    No one can be that stupid. Are you really this stupid?
    I am stupid enough, yes, to rely on the intelligence memos handed to me by the CIA before I go on Meet the Press if I'm the Ambassador to the U.N. as opposed to my gut feelings (something that hasn't gotten conservatives very good results as of late :laugh:)
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    Or you could be smart and not say anything, something even the dumbest lawyer knows to tell his/her client. Either she lied or she was incompetent. In either case if she was a Republican she would have been out by now. No way should she be confirmed as Secretary of State. Obama appeared buffoonish trying to cover for her. Today was a very poor day for his Presidency, and for our country. That was a terrible performance in the press conference and there is no indication that he's any closer to being a better executive than he has been the last 4 years. Terrible. Or per a certain ESPN reporter...Turrible.
  • BoatShoes
    Manhattan Buckeye;1320440 wrote:Or you could be smart and not say anything, something even the dumbest lawyer knows to tell his/her client. Either she lied or she was incompetent. In either case if she was a Republican she would have been out by now. No way should she be confirmed as Secretary of State. Obama appeared buffoonish trying to cover for her. Today was a very poor day for his Presidency, and for our country. That was a terrible performance in the press conference and there is no indication that he's any closer to being a better executive than he has been the last 4 years. Terrible. Or per a certain ESPN reporter...Turrible.
    Or maybe you're just butthurt and are exaggerating?
  • QuakerOats
    BoatShoes;1320420 wrote:Yeah she's so terrible because she answered questions while relying on the best available evidence at the time :confused:
    Laughable. She is either so incredibly inept that she believed the horsesh!7 the White House told her to parrot, and was simply used as a tool; or she was part of the coverup all along. Either way, she should be terminated, but MUCH more importantly, those in the WH who either lied to her and used her, or made her a part of the massive coverup should be resigning en masse today. obama should resign, today, or be impeached, and removed from office. He is not only inept, he cannot be trusted.