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The 2nd Presidential Debate

  • fish82
    se-alum;1298280 wrote:You can probably add FLA and VA to Romney's side, and Michigan to Obama's side.
    My map has Mittens up 261-243, with Ohio, Wisky and Iowa still toss-up.
  • Ty Webb
    My map (at this point) is 275-254 Obama with Colorado too close to call

    Obama gets:
    Ohio
    Wisconsin
    PA
    Michigan
    New Hampshire
    Nevada

    Romney gets:
    Virginia
    Florida
    Iowa
    North Carolina

    I think Iowa could go for President Obama though
  • QuakerOats
    WELFARE SOARS 32% IN 4 YEARS...
    Welfare now costs $1,030,000,000,000...
    NO SURPRISE: Jobless claims rise 46,000...
    Under Obama, for every $7 brought in by gov't, $11 spent...



    Change we can believe in ...
  • mucalum49
    Ty Webb;1298301 wrote:My map (at this point) is 275-254 Obama with Colorado too close to call

    Obama gets:
    Ohio
    Wisconsin
    PA
    Michigan
    New Hampshire
    Nevada

    Romney gets:
    Virginia
    Florida
    Iowa

    I think Iowa could go for President Obama though
    Assuming North Carolina to Romney in your number?
  • Ty Webb
    mucalum49;1298307 wrote:Assuming North Carolina to Romney in your number?
    Yes.....sorry about that
  • se-alum
    se-alum;1298160 wrote:So how do you defend him calling this a protest gone wrong over a Youtube video for the two weeks after the incident. Susan Rice, went on every show claiming protest over a Youtube vide. In front of the UN, Obama claimed protest over Youtube video. If he knew this was a terrorist attack while he stood in the Rose Garden that day, why did he continue to mislead Americans and our allies across the world?
    Still anxiously awaiting your answer Isadore.
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    288-250 Obama runs away.
  • FatHobbit
    The other unemployment rate

    http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/18/news/economy/other-unemployment-rate/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
  • isadore
    jmog;1298211 wrote:You do realize that the moderator got on CNN within 30 minutes of the debate and said she was wrong and Romney was correct with regards to Libya don't you?

    But of course she must be racist too huh?
    gosh a ruddies read what the President said or listen to the tape, read what Romney said or listen to the tape, Romeny was wrong. But of course some foxites can never accept the statements of our African American president, about his birthplace, his religion or what he said in the rose garden.
  • isadore
    se-alum;1298160 wrote:So how do you defend him calling this a protest gone wrong over a Youtube video for the two weeks after the incident. Susan Rice, went on every show claiming protest over a Youtube vide. In front of the UN, Obama claimed protest over Youtube video. If he knew this was a terrorist attack while he stood in the Rose Garden that day, why did he continue to mislead Americans and our allies across the world?
    gosh a ruddies. romney said the president did not call it a terror attack in the rose garden speech, the transcript shows he did. Romney lied.
    Now we plan a reaction to the bombing, we organize, we prepare to attack on the terrorists and kill them. all things that Obama's administration has shown itself better at than the previous Republican administration.
  • se-alum
    isadore;1298367 wrote:gosh a ruddies. romney said the president did not call it a terror attack in the rose garden speech, the transcript shows he did. Romney lied.
    Now we plan a reaction to the bombing, we organize, we prepare to attack on the terrorists and kill them. all things that Obama's administration has shown itself better at than the previous Republican administration.
    That is not an answer to the posed question.
  • se-alum
    Dick Durbin admits "bad result" of Obamacare. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Next comes loss of jobs.
    Illinois Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin, the second-ranking Democrat in the Senate, told The Daily Caller that “several” areas of President Barack Obama’s Affordable Care Act could be “improved” and acknowledged that a “bad result” of the law is that companies are cutting workers’ hours to avoid paying for their health insurance.
    For example, Darden Restaurants, which operates the Olive Garden and Red Lobster restaurants, is reportedly limiting employees’ hours due to the health care law’s regulations on businesses.
    “It’s a bad result. It is a bad result, and I’d like to – I’ve worked with them [Darden] on many issues, and I’d like to sit-down with them and find out what it is,” Durbin, who voted for Obamacare, told TheDC in a video interview at Hofstra University before Tuesday night’s presidential debate.


    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/18/democrat-sen-durbin-cuts-to-workers-hours-a-bad-result-of-obamacare-video/#ixzz29g82OcM1
  • isadore
    se-alum;1298370 wrote:That is not an answer to the posed question.
    romney got caught in a lie and was called out for it in front of 60 million people and you guys are just unwilling to admit it.
  • se-alum
    isadore;1298374 wrote:romney got caught in a lie and was called out for it in front of 60 million people and you guys are just unwilling to admit it.
    So you're just not going to answer the question. Ok, Romney lied. Why did Obama stand up in front of the UN claiming a protest gone wrong over a Youtube video? Why did Susan Rice go on all these shows claiming the same thing?
  • isadore
    se-alum;1298376 wrote:So you're just not going to answer the question. Ok, Romney lied. Why did Obama stand up in front of the UN claiming a protest gone wrong over a Youtube video? Why did Susan Rice go on all these shows claiming the same thing?
    sorry if this is not blood thirsty enough for you. "The attacks on the civilians in Benghazi were attacks onAmerica.

    There should be no doubt that we will be relentless intracking down the killers and bringing them to justice. " He promised a strong reaction while an investigation was taking place. And Romney is as you said a liar.
  • se-alum
    isadore;1298377 wrote:sorry if this is not blood thirsty enough for you. "The attacks on the civilians in Benghazi were attacks onAmerica.

    There should be no doubt that we will be relentless intracking down the killers and bringing them to justice. " He promised a strong reaction while an investigation was taking place. And Romney is as you said a liar.
    Dude, that's nowhere close to what I've asked. Any chance you can be an adult and answer it or you just going to keep acting like a juvenile?
  • isadore
    gosh I can always tell an adult conversation, they begin with "Dude." And as I said an investigation was taking place and why forearm the enemy as we prepare a lethal response.
  • bases_loaded
    Why blame an American citizen for exercising his 1st amendment while "gathering facts"?
  • I Wear Pants
    isadore;1298383 wrote:gosh I can always tell an adult conversation, they begin with "Dude." And as I said an investigation was taking place and why forearm the enemy as we prepare a lethal response.
  • se-alum
    isadore;1298383 wrote:gosh I can always tell an adult conversation, they begin with "Dude." And as I said an investigation was taking place and why forearm the enemy as we prepare a lethal response.
    Based on testimony, they knew it was s terrorist attack that had nothing to do with the video within 24 hrs, yet they still used the video excuse for two weeks, why?
  • I Wear Pants
    gut;1298110 wrote:Rational people don't. It's only the kool-aid drinkers that can't see thru Obama's bs.

    I have to agree at this point I think Obama has given up on the undecideds and swing voters and it's all about turning out the base. The last two debates with Obama and Biden clearly haven't been about substance but in-your-face, aggressive demogoguing and demonization intended to fire-up a bunch of blue-collar neanderthals.
    And Romney has been full of substance?
  • gut
    I Wear Pants;1298396 wrote:And Romney has been full of substance?
    A hell of a lot more than Obama, absolutely. Obama spends like 90% of his time attacking Romney's plans... sooooooo Q.E.D.

    Or let's put it this way...If I told you one of those two on stage had been a professor, you would never in a million years guess it to be Obama.
  • se-alum
    A nice little timeline of the Libya disaster.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/10/10/timeline-of-libya-attack/1624733/

    It isn't possible to defend the Presidents actions.
  • jmog
    ZWICK 4 PREZ;1298315 wrote:288-250 Obama runs away.
    38 EVs is not a runaway.

    4 years ago it was a runaway (385 to 173)
    Clinton had a runaway from Dole and from Bush I

    Landslides are like Bush I vs Dukakis and Reagan vs Mondale and Reagan vs Carter.

    30ish EVs is not "running away" by anymeans, that's basically 1 battle ground state (FL).
  • isadore
    se-alum;1298395 wrote:Based on testimony, they knew it was s terrorist attack that had nothing to do with the video within 24 hrs, yet they still used the video excuse for two weeks, why?
    to find the perpetrators.