Fox News coverage of the conventions

• Bigdogg

  I did not watch a whole lot of either convention but I always like to switch back between the networks coverages. I did notice some real differences and thought they were odd. I took a film appreciation course in college so I always pay attention to camera angles and how movies are edited because it is an interesting art. A friend sent me this article and it got me thinking. Granted it is a little over the top but it has some good points to think about how some people try to manipulate the public's opinions.
  

  Fox used techniques of altering camera angles, video and sound feeds, and basic editing to try to make, well, Democrats look bad and Republicans look good.

  
  http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/07/1128900/-Fox-News-Agit-Prop-Techniques-During-the-Conventions-would-make-Stalin-Proud
• Con_Alma

  Shocking!
• justincredible

  

  Sounds like a real bummer.
• fish82

  

  Solid analysis from the Daily Kos.
• jhay78

  

  I watched both conventions on regular network channels (mostly ABC), and at the Republican convention there were a few times where a camera on the crowd happened to focus in on an African-American.
  
  Needless to say, the camera was there for about half a second and then quickly panned away to zero in on some other "normal" attendee of the racist Republican convention. I'm sure that wasn't by design. :rolleyes:
• believer

  

  jhay78;1267403 wrote:I watched both conventions on regular network channels (mostly ABC), and at the Republican convention there were a few times where a camera on the crowd happened to focus in on an African-American.
  
  Needless to say, the camera was there for about half a second and then quickly panned away to zero in on some other "normal" attendee of the racist Republican convention. I'm sure that wasn't by design. :rolleyes:

  Naw...purely coincidence. Only Fox News manipulates the news. All the other mainstream media outlets restrain themselves and exhibit the highest standards of journalistic integrity in a "fair & balanced" sort of way.
• isadore

  jhay78;1267403 wrote:I watched both conventions on regular network channels (mostly ABC), and at the Republican convention there were a few times where a camera on the crowd happened to focus in on an African-American.
  
  Needless to say, the camera was there for about half a second and then quickly panned away to zero in on some other "normal" attendee of the racist Republican convention. I'm sure that wasn't by design. :rolleyes:

  gosh a ruddies it was kind of hard to find them "This year’s Republican Convention included 47 African-American delegates, comprising 2.1 percent of the total. That compares with 1,452 (26.2 percent) black delegates at this year’s Democratic Convention. The Republicans’ convention committees had few black members and no leaders, whereas there are black co-chairs of all of the Democrats’ convention committees, according to a report by David A. Bositis, senior political analyst for the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies."
  http://atlantablackstar.com/2012/09/07/black-influence-on-democratic-party-is-far-greater-than-republican-party/
• jhay78

  

  isadore;1267489 wrote:gosh a ruddies it was kind of hard to find them "This year’s Republican Convention included 47 African-American delegates, comprising 2.1 percent of the total. That compares with 1,452 (26.2 percent) black delegates at this year’s Democratic Convention. The Republicans’ convention committees had few black members and no leaders, whereas there are black co-chairs of all of the Democrats’ convention committees, according to a report by David A. Bositis, senior political analyst for the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies."
  http://atlantablackstar.com/2012/09/07/black-influence-on-democratic-party-is-far-greater-than-republican-party/

  And when the camera did find them it made sure the TV audience didn't see them for long.
  
  All your stats prove is that there are more blacks are in the Democrat Party. Not that they aren't welcome in the Republican Party.
• isadore

  jhay78;1267501 wrote:And when the camera did find them it made sure the TV audience didn't see them for long.
  
  All your stats prove is that there are more blacks are in the Democrat Party. Not that they aren't welcome in the Republican Party.

  lol. welcoming to black people, you are funny.
• Abe Vigoda

  

  Unfortunately today the media is more controlled by the bottom dollar and not ideology in spite of what you hear. The boundary between entertainment and factual news barely exists anymore. If you are stupid enough to believe everything you see and hear on Fox news and MSNBC, you deserve what you get.
• jmog

  isadore;1267489 wrote:gosh a ruddies it was kind of hard to find them "This year’s Republican Convention included 47 African-American delegates, comprising 2.1 percent of the total. That compares with 1,452 (26.2 percent) black delegates at this year’s Democratic Convention. The Republicans’ convention committees had few black members and no leaders, whereas there are black co-chairs of all of the Democrats’ convention committees, according to a report by David A. Bositis, senior political analyst for the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies."
  http://atlantablackstar.com/2012/09/07/black-influence-on-democratic-party-is-far-greater-than-republican-party/

  Considering 12% of the US is black, the republican's "2.1%" is less than 10% off the national average while the democratic's 26.2% is well above.
  
  Maybe the democrats were racist against whites then huh while the republicans were closer to actual ethnic demographics of the US?
• gut

  Clearly the "No you can't....without govt" message of the Dems is more appealing to blacks. There's a victimization mentality which the Dems exploit quite effectively. Same thing, to a lesser extent, with women...except, in that case, the victimization is imagined with Roe V Wade some 30+ years ago but they still vote out of fear of not being able to have a baby sucked out of them.
• HitsRus

  

  I think the Republican party welcomes all into their party that share like views, irregardless of their ethnicity, gender or color of their skin. The Democrats claim they are the party for 'women, blacks, and minorities, but in reality, they are only for those women, blacks, and minorites that fit their profiles. They don't like strong, independent women that don't need their help....Sarah Palin is a c***, Ann Coulter is a b**** Michelle Bachmann is f***....and Ann Romney "never worked a day in her life"(raising 5 boys).
  
  They don't like strong independent blacks either... Allen West tells it like it is.
  
  As gut says above... they foster dependency on government instead of individual resourcefullness.
• gut

  HitsRus;1267820 wrote:... they foster dependency on government instead of individual resourcefullness.

  Honestly, which party is more elitist and thinks less of its consituents - the one that wants more govt to make your decisions, or the one that still [somewhat] believes in the principles this country was founded on?
  
  You would think the "party for the people" would be one that empowers them rather than diminishes them.
• jhay78

  

  isadore;1267619 wrote:lol. welcoming to black people, you are funny.

  I'm anxiously awaiting your multiple links proving otherwise.
  

  gut;1267838 wrote:Honestly, which party is more elitist and thinks less of its consituents - the one that wants more govt to make your decisions, or the one that still [somewhat] believes in the principles this country was founded on?
  
  You would think the "party for the people" would be one that empowers them rather than diminishes them.

  It's pretty much set in stone in our culture that the only noble and virtuous things that can be done for disadvantaged minorities are handing out freebies and making them dependent on the government. Hopefully that's starting to change.
• QuakerOats

  isadore;1267489 wrote:gosh a ruddies it was kind of hard to find them "This year’s Republican Convention included 47 African-American delegates, comprising 2.1 percent of the total. That compares with 1,452 (26.2 percent) black delegates at this year’s Democratic Convention. The Republicans’ convention committees had few black members and no leaders, whereas there are black co-chairs of all of the Democrats’ convention committees, according to a report by David A. Bositis, senior political analyst for the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies."
  http://atlantablackstar.com/2012/09/07/black-influence-on-democratic-party-is-far-greater-than-republican-party/

  
  If black people want to continue to remain enslaved to government via democrat entitlement programs that is their choice ............. we can only try to fix stupid so long.
• se-alum

  

  I'm a Republican and I thought Fox and CNN both done a pretty good job on the conventions. MSNBC on the otherhand, is unwatchable.
• gut

  QuakerOats;1268044 wrote:If black people want to continue to remain enslaved to government via democrat entitlement programs that is their choice ............. we can only try to fix stupid so long.

  You know, the reason there's been so much outcry over the "inflexibility" of early voting opportunities is because they've relied on the Church to deliver an incendiary message of fear and hatred to use group think and peer pressure to go to the polls to vote Dem en masse.
  
  I mean, c'mon, 90%+ vote Dem - there's no other group nearly so homogenous.
• stlouiedipalma

  gut;1268051 wrote:You know, the reason there's been so much outcry over the "inflexibility" of early voting opportunities is because they've relied on the Church to deliver an incendiary message of fear and hatred to use group think and peer pressure to go to the polls to vote Dem en masse.
  
  I mean, c'mon, 90%+ vote Dem - there's no other group nearly so homogenous.

  Does the Republican Party have anything to offer African-Americans that might swing the vote more their way.
  
  I mean, c'mon, do you think that voter suppression, I mean Voter I.D. laws meant to curb the out-of-control problem of voter fraud, are targetting suburban white voters?
• believer

  

  stlouiedipalma;1268077 wrote:Does the Republican Party have anything to offer African-Americans that might swing the vote more their way.
  
  I mean, c'mon, do you think that voter suppression, I mean Voter I.D. laws meant to curb the out-of-control problem of voter fraud, are targetting suburban white voters?

  It is meant to curb illegal votes from illegal immigrants. "Disenfranchisement" of the black vote due to voter ID laws is BS of the highest caliber. The black vote is NOT the target.
  
  I honestly do not understand how something so simple can be so difficult to understand.
• gut

  stlouiedipalma;1268077 wrote:Does the Republican Party have anything to offer African-Americans that might swing the vote more their way.
  
  I mean, c'mon, do you think that voter suppression, I mean Voter I.D. laws meant to curb the out-of-control problem of voter fraud, are targetting suburban white voters?

  What do the Dems offer them? That's the point. They vote inexplicably homogenously for Dems out of fear and hatred. Heck, only 70% of gay/lesbians voted for Obama in 2008 - are you telling me that the Dems offer minorities more, or that the Repubs offer them less than gays/lesbians? That's where you have to say, hmmm, it's not the platform there's something else going on.
  
  The Dems tell them they are failures, tell them the deck is stacked against them, and all they offer is a promise of more entitlements. I mean, look at what the Dems really think of African Americans, because their agenda is one of covert oppression through embracing the status quo. I WOULD say they are remarkably ignorant to think they can even sell that message, but yet what DOES it say that the approach is so efffective?
  
  The only thing the Dems have done well the last 4 years is turning every issue into a faux attack on women and minorities. Who else wakes up to read they can't vote early Sunday and says "what!?!?, they're trying to disenfranchise me"
• isadore

  QUOTE=jhay78]
  I'm anxiously awaiting your multiple links proving otherwise.[/QUOTE]
  
  Gosh a ruddies
  Whether it is spitting on a black congressman,
  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/20/AR2010032002556.html
  Or the Alabama delegates throwing peanuts at a black camera at their convention
  http://71.45.131.15/originalpeople/blog/view/17124/republicans-that-threw-peanuts-at-black-cnn-camera-woman-were-2-alabama-delegates
  Have a leading Presidential candidate who opposed basic civil rights law and published a racist newsletter.
  http://colorlines.com/archives/2011/05/ron_paul_would_have_voted_against_civil_rights_act.html
  http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ron-paul-signed-off-on-racist-newsletters-sources-say/2012/01/20/gIQAvblFVQ_story.html
  The party pushes voter identification laws that hinder black voters.
  http://ncbcp.org/news/in_the_news/eric_holder_voter_id_laws_hurt_minorities/
  They even deny that our first black President was not born in America.
  
• gut

  No, Repubs push voter ID laws that hinder people with no ID. It's the media and the Dems claiming it hinders black voters.
  
  And I'm sure the Repubs could have hired someone to make it rain SNAP at the DNC, too. Oh wait, you couldn't get in without an ID.
• isadore

  jmog;1267796 wrote:Considering 12% of the US is black, the republican's "2.1%" is less than 10% off the national average while the democratic's 26.2% is well above.
  
  Maybe the democrats were racist against whites then huh while the republicans were closer to actual ethnic demographics of the US?

  lol, what a republican attempt at statistical anaysis. but according to the republican view blacks are 1/50th of our population.
• isadore

  QuakerOats;1268044 wrote:If black people want to continue to remain enslaved to government via democrat entitlement programs that is their choice ............. we can only try to fix stupid so long.

  gosh a ruddies, you call blacks stupid for rejecting a party bathed in bigotry.