Just when you think the issue over .... Obama is a fraud

• Belly35

  

  Just when you think it’s over more fraud comes to the surface.
  
  He and everything he does is fraud ….
  
  If I was the Governor of Az I would not let Obama on the Presidential Ballet in 2012. and I would think more state would follow…
  
  
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/joe-arpaio-birther-probe-_n_1681428.html
  
  
  http://www.rr.com/politics/topic/article/rr/1131/72030447/Sheriff_Arpaio_says_Obama_birth_certificate_is
  
  Obama show the American public your college records …. fraud
  
  Not My President and never will be
• QuakerOats

  Not my prez either (regardless of his ineligibility issues), after his comments last Friday.
• fish82

  

  While I agree that the document is sketchy at best, this really isn't a hill worth dying on anymore.
• bases_loaded

  

  The Obama administration loves to drive the conversation to this stuff because it distracts from the real issues.
• BGFalcons82

  

  bases_loaded;1227699 wrote:The Obama administration loves to drive the conversation to this stuff because it distracts from the real issues.

  This. Every day not talking about the economic trash dump we are in is a good day for Barry.
• BoatShoes

  BGFalcons82;1227704 wrote:This. Every day not talking about the economic trash dump we are in is a good day for Barry.

  But it's always worth talking about how much worse the economy would be if slash and burn republicans were in power. How many years is it now that you have been wrong about hyperinflation? Have you noticed our record low borrowing costs despite a downgrade in our credit rating and a completely dysfunctional government?
• ts1227

  

  All politicians today are frauds
• Devils Advocate

  

  Belly35;1227664 wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/joe-arpaio-birther-probe-_n_1681428.html

  At first I was wondering what you would be doing on the Huff Po risking your eyesight and maybe spontanious combustion.
  
  Then I say the gay voices tab on the link that you provided and answered my own question.
  
  
  
  
  
  Back to your original post, are you really suprised that Sherriff Blow's minions set out on an investigation to see if BHO's Certificate was forged or altered, and they found that it was forged or altered?
  
  SMDH
• gut

  "Zullo said investigators previously didn't know the meaning of codes but they were explained by a 95-year-old former state worker who signed the president's birth certificate."
  
  I don't care who you are, that's just good comedy.
• 2kool4skool

  

  Sheriff Joe has been teetering on the edge of senility for some time now, glad to see he's finally taken the plunge off the cliff.
• Bigdogg

  Vote against Obama if you like Mitts policies better if you want. Don't post stupid conspiracy theories on here about Obama's birth place. It makes you look ignorant.
  
  
  
• Ghmothwdwhso

  BoatShoes;1227750 wrote:But it's always worth talking about how much worse the economy would be if slash and burn republicans were in power. How many years is it now that you have been wrong about hyperinflation? Have you noticed our record low borrowing costs despite a downgrade in our credit rating and a completely dysfunctional government?

  "would be", "if" speak of a down bound train..................not "It could/should be better", but rather "it would be worse IF" ..........
  
  So now BHO should get credit for low interest rates? It's funny how the liberal mind works...........
• I Wear Pants

  Belly35;1227664 wrote:Just when you think it’s over more fraud comes to the surface.
  
  He and everything he does is fraud ….
  
  If I was the Governor of Az I would not let Obama on the Presidential Ballet in 2012. and I would think more state would follow…
  
  
  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/joe-arpaio-birther-probe-_n_1681428.html
  
  
  http://www.rr.com/politics/topic/article/rr/1131/72030447/Sheriff_Arpaio_says_Obama_birth_certificate_is
  
  Obama show the American public your college records …. fraud
  
  Not My President and never will be

  QuakerOats;1227685 wrote:Not my prez either (regardless of his ineligibility issues), after his comments last Friday.

  First off, yes, he is your President if you are a US Citizen whether you like him or not.
  
  And which comments last Friday are you referring to?
• QuakerOats

  I Wear Pants;1228625 wrote:First off, yes, he is your President if you are a US Citizen whether you like him or not.
  
  And which comments last Friday are you referring to?

  
  
  The arrogant comments of a communist admonishing the private sector:
  
  http://spectator.org/archives/2012/07/17/no-you-cant
  
  Fu#$%ing unvbelievable. NOT MY PREZ.
• BoatShoes

  Ghmothwdwhso;1228622 wrote:"would be", "if" speak of a down bound train..................not "It could/should be better", but rather "it would be worse IF" ..........
  
  So now BHO should get credit for low interest rates? It's funny how the liberal mind works...........

  It is not about giving "credit" to Obama for low interest rates. You don't post much so you get a pass. It is about understanding how the world works. Goldbugs and Deficit-Scold Conservatives don't understand how the world works and all of their predictions have proved wanting over the last 5 years or so. Those of us who view the world through the IS/LM model of the world have been right. The Wall Street Journal declared the arrival of the Bond Vigilantes years ago and yet the IS/LM devotees held our ground and said no...at the zero bound even large fiscal deficits will not cause a spike in interest rates and huge increases in the money supply will not cause inflation.
  
  This is about how the world works.
  
  Right wingers who just constantly say "Gubmint shouldn't spend more dan it takes in herrm duurrrp like a bidnezz or da household dur duurrrrr! 'Merica!!!!" without understanding that a macroeconomy is nothing like a household, that the public can't deleverage while the private sector does without causing perpetual depression and that governments are supposed to run deficits in slumps and surpluses at full employment (not the other way around as Republican policies have advocated) are wrong and they need to be reminded how they've been wrong for half a decade as often as possible in hopes that they might come to their senses.
• I Wear Pants

  QuakerOats;1228754 wrote:The arrogant comments of a communist admonishing the private sector:
  
  http://spectator.org/archives/2012/07/17/no-you-cant
  
  Fu#$%ing unvbelievable. NOT MY PREZ.

  Show me the business built without the use of roads, without benefiting from educated employees, without benefiting from our electrical grid, without benefiting from any number of things which we've decided as a society are beneficial to have. The people who build successful business and produce goods and hire employees are certainly admirable for their hard work/creativity/ingenuity/whatever it is that made their particular business successful. But no one did it alone is the point. That doesn't degrade their accomplishments, it's just these days we seem to have the narrative controlled by a certain brand of conservative like yourself in regards to taxes wherein you want us to see any tax on business as an abomination and example of pure unadulterated communism. That's not so and this shows it, it isn't an argument that companies need taxed more per se but that it isn't defacto a bad thing to tax them because look at all the good that comes out of it.
  
  At least that's how I've understood these arguments lately.
  
  Also, you keep becoming more cartoonish in your hate of Obama. Gonna give yourself a heart attack if you keep this level of hatred up.
• I Wear Pants

  Also, how the fuck is the Arizona Country Sheriff an expert on the authenticity of a 50 year old Hawaiian Birth Certificate and yet the Hawaiian Health Department isn't? Explain that you conspiracy theorists? How is that guy somehow more reliable in your minds then the people who's job it is to authenticate that sort of thing?
• fish82

  

  I Wear Pants;1229173 wrote:Also, how the **** is the Arizona Country Sheriff an expert on the authenticity of a 50 year old Hawaiian Birth Certificate and yet the Hawaiian Health Department isn't? Explain that you conspiracy theorists? How is that guy somehow more reliable in your minds then the people who's job it is to authenticate that sort of thing?

  Not that it matters, but several people claiming to be well versed in Adobe discovered it was a layered document (not a single scan) within about 12 hours of its release, and well before the whacky sheriff even became involved. I'm not saying it proves anything, other then legitimately calling the authenticity of that particular document into question.
• I Wear Pants

  fish82;1229196 wrote:Not that it matters, but several people claiming to be well versed in Adobe discovered it was a layered document (not a single scan) within about 12 hours of its release, and well before the whacky sheriff even became involved. I'm not saying it proves anything, other then legitimately calling the authenticity of that particular document into question.

  Doesn't really matter though because the people with the authority to call it real, the Hawaiian Health Department, have said it is. Discussion should be over.
• ts1227

  

  I Wear Pants;1229112 wrote:Also, you keep becoming more cartoonish in your hate of Obama. Gonna give yourself a heart attack if you keep this level of hatred up.

  
  Being from the Salem area I'm sure you've read plenty of Salem News/Morning Journal articles about the fucking insane Columbiana County GOP chairman. You're dealing with one of his main mouthpieces, so it's not that surprising.
• fish82

  

  I Wear Pants;1229202 wrote:Doesn't really matter though because the people with the authority to call it real, the Hawaiian Health Department, have said it is. Discussion should be over.

  I'd like to see the HHD explain the need for layering what should be a single-scan document, but it is what it is I suppose.
• Belly35

  

  I Wear Pants;1229112 wrote:Show me the business built without the use of roads, without benefiting from educated employees, without benefiting from our electrical grid, without benefiting from any number of things which we've decided as a society are beneficial to have. The people who build successful business and produce goods and hire employees are certainly admirable for their hard work/creativity/ingenuity/whatever it is that made their particular business successful. But no one did it alone is the point. That doesn't degrade their accomplishments, it's just these days we seem to have the narrative controlled by a certain brand of conservative like yourself in regards to taxes wherein you want us to see any tax on business as an abomination and example of pure unadulterated communism. That's not so and this shows it, it isn't an argument that companies need taxed more per se but that it isn't defacto a bad thing to tax them because look at all the good that comes out of it.
  
  At least that's how I've understood these arguments lately.
  
  Also, you keep becoming more cartoonish in your hate of Obama. Gonna give yourself a heart attack if you keep this level of hatred up.

  Roads, street, education .. ... come from taxes .. where does taxes come from.... government use money from the people ..... Government can't produce anything without the taxes from the people.... without my successful business and my effort to be a productive member of society my taxes built this country not the government that wastes my dollar. Tax me out of business and government has less, tax the people more and government get less... be a producer nation and everyone prospers and government gets taxes…
• I Wear Pants

  Belly35;1229411 wrote:Roads, street, education .. ... come from taxes .. where does taxes come from.... government use money from the people ..... Government can't produce anything without the taxes from the people.... without my successful business and my effort to be a productive member of society my taxes built this country not the government that wastes my dollar. Tax me out of business and government has less, tax the people more and government get less... be a producer nation and everyone prospers and government gets taxes…

  Which is why I'm not talking about taxing people out of business.
  
  But we have massive corporations paying no taxes at all, that's not right.
• Belly35

  

  I Wear Pants;1229413 wrote:Which is why I'm not talking about taxing people out of business.
  
  But we have massive corporations paying no taxes at all, that's not right.

  Could you please provide one (1) example .. of no taxes corporation
• I Wear Pants

  Belly35;1229648 wrote:Could you please provide one (1) example .. of no taxes corporation

  http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/general-electric-paid-federal-taxes-2010/story?id=13224558#.UAmyON2T6jU