Quit hogging all the "A's" ...it's not fair...time to redistribute GPA's

• sleeper

  

  isadore;1160931 wrote:an Bill gates children are not starving which like all your statements proves nothing. Cut the safety net, significantly reduce it= mass suffering ensues. starvation does not build character.

  Cut the safety net. Behaviors change. People go to work to feed their kids.
  
  That means you, isadore, will have to go to work like the rest of us. Time to grow up.
• isadore

  WebFire;1160977 wrote:I think that's because of what it has become. If we had very simple, short-term benefits, I'd be fine with some. And most of that should come at the state level.

  when true economic catastrophe struck in the Great Depression the states were found wanting. And so many are in situations that short term benefits will not save.
• isadore

  jmog;1160989 wrote:You really can't condemn someone else's logic, even when it was bad like sleeper's, when you use extremes like your bolded statement. That is about as illogical as it possibly could be.

  of course I can, and the fact that Bill Gates can feed his kids says nothing about the economic problems of tens of millions of Americans and more specifically of 15 million American children. There is nothing extreme about describing the goal of Republican social policy.
• isadore

  sleeper;1161041 wrote:Cut the safety net. Behaviors change. People go to work to feed their kids.
  
  That means you, isadore, will have to go to work like the rest of us. Time to grow up.

  yes cut the safety net and people will be dumpster diving then see their kids develop malnutrition.
  i gotta a job, 2nd assistant french frier at mcd. and i am about to finish my ged.
• WebFire

  isadore;1161087 wrote:when true economic catastrophe struck in the Great Depression the states were found wanting. And so many are in situations that short term benefits will not save.

  Sorry about their luck. This nation was built on opportunity, not living long term sucking on the government's tit.
• sleeper

  

  isadore;1161093 wrote:yes cut the safety net and people will be dumpster diving then see their kids develop malnutrition.
  i gotta a job, 2nd assistant french frier at mcd. and i am about to finish my ged.

  Exactly. You don't deserve anything, couldn't even graduate high school.
• isadore

  WebFire;1161102 wrote:Sorry about their luck. This nation was built on opportunity, not living long term sucking on the government's tit.

  the nation was built on many things, most positve, some negative including slave labor in all 13 colonies. From the start some were denied opportunity and that continues. In terms of social mobility, the true measurement of opportunity, we are far down the list among developed nations. The nations above us all do a better job of providing for their citizens.
• isadore

  sleeper;1161109 wrote:Exactly. You don't deserve anything, couldn't even graduate high school.

  but I married well so I am covered.
• sleeper

  

  isadore;1161419 wrote:the nation was built on many things, most positve, some negative including slave labor in all 13 colonies. From the start some were denied opportunity and that continues. In terms of social mobility, the true measurement of opportunity, we are far down the list among developed nations. The nations above us all do a better job of providing for their citizens.

  Social mobility is a stupid idea/terminology. I want to raise the pot for everyone, not give free stuff to the lazy poor.
• sleeper

  

  isadore;1161421 wrote:but I married well so I am covered.

  Prayers to your husband.
• isadore

  sleeper;1161423 wrote:Social mobility is a stupid idea/terminology. I want to raise the pot for everyone, not give free stuff to the lazy poor.

  LOL "I want to raise the pot for everyone."
  unbelieveable.
• sleeper

  

  isadore;1161556 wrote:LOL "I want to raise the pot for everyone."
  unbelieveable.

  Don't get that confused with raising marijuana. The poor will do that anyway, even if you gave them more money they'd piss it away on illegal drugs.
• WebFire

  isadore;1161419 wrote:The nations above us all do a better job of providing for their citizens.

  At what cost?
• isadore

  sleeper;1161559 wrote:Don't get that confused with raising marijuana. The poor will do that anyway, even if you gave them more money they'd piss it away on illegal drugs.

  shame, shame, shame dealing in stereotypes
• sleeper

  

  isadore;1161575 wrote:shame, shame, shame dealing in stereotypes

  Like stereotyping the rich as having no heart. Shame shame shame. Let me know when you get a job.
• isadore

  WebFire;1161574 wrote:At what cost?

  at whatever it takes to provide for the general welfare.
• sleeper

  

  isadore;1161578 wrote:at whatever it takes to provide for the general welfare.

  What if its 10000 trillion?
• isadore

  sleeper;1161577 wrote:Like stereotyping the rich as having no heart. Shame shame shame. Let me know when you get a job.

  when you act to benefit yourself at the expense of those in need, you lack a heart.
• WebFire

  isadore;1161578 wrote:at whatever it takes to provide for the general welfare.

  Dumb.
• isadore

  sleeper;1161579 wrote:What if its 10000 trillion?

  then we would able to supply everyone with that million dollars you want to give them. I think that is about your plan would cost.
• sleeper

  

  isadore;1161580 wrote:when you act to benefit yourself at the expense of those in need, you lack a heart.

  So the farmer making food to sell at a price higher than what it costs him to make to feed his family lacks a heart?
  
  Geez. Isadore, if none of us worked like you, who would pay for your socialistic paradise?
• isadore

  WebFire;1161581 wrote:Dumb.

  I am sorry, I was quoting from the Constitution about what we the people considered to be the duties of the government we were ordaining for our representative democracy.
• sleeper

  

  isadore;1161584 wrote:then we would able to supply everyone with that million dollars you want to give them. I think that is about your plan would cost.

  And prices would adjust accordingly. Bread would cost $1000000 dollars a loaf and people would still complain that the rich aren't paying their fair share.
• gut

  isadore;1161580 wrote:when you act to benefit yourself at the expense of those in need, you lack a heart.

  Kind of my feelings about the BS whining about outsorucing. That is, if you genuinely care about REAL human suffering.
• isadore

  sleeper;1161585 wrote:So the farmer making food to sell at a price higher than what it costs him to make to feed his family lacks a heart?
  
  Geez. Isadore, if none of us worked like you, who would pay for your socialistic paradise?

  since I work and many of the poor work hence the term "working poor" we all contribute as we can to providing for the general welfare of our nation.