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Joe Lieberman has balls of steel

  • derek bomar
    Writerbuckeye wrote: Major props to Joe or anyone else that can effectively derail this piece of garbage.
    yes...let's just keep our heads in the sand and let the cost of health care bankrupt the country...weeeeeeeeee
  • 2quik4u
    When the congressmen decide to vote for what they think is right instead of going along with their party, things will get passed then
  • Writerbuckeye
    derek bomar wrote:
    Writerbuckeye wrote: Major props to Joe or anyone else that can effectively derail this piece of garbage.
    yes...let's just keep our heads in the sand and let the cost of health care bankrupt the country...weeeeeeeeee
    Typical liberal: you believe ANYTHING, no matter how ridiculously bad and over-reaching it is, is better than nothing. Even w/o a public option or buy-in this piece of garbage effectively gives government bureaucrats control over health programs and decisions. Is that really what you want?

    I have no problem with actual health care reform. This is like using a howitzer to kill a bug.
  • derek bomar
    Writerbuckeye wrote:
    derek bomar wrote:
    Writerbuckeye wrote: Major props to Joe or anyone else that can effectively derail this piece of garbage.
    yes...let's just keep our heads in the sand and let the cost of health care bankrupt the country...weeeeeeeeee
    Typical liberal: you believe ANYTHING, no matter how ridiculously bad and over-reaching it is, is better than nothing. Even w/o a public option or buy-in this piece of garbage effectively gives government bureaucrats control over health programs and decisions. Is that really what you want?

    I have no problem with actual health care reform. This is like using a howitzer to kill a bug.
    what don't you like about allowing people to purchase medicare from 55-64?
  • derek bomar
    cuz ya know Joe liked it 3 months ago...

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/14/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5979254.shtml
  • derek bomar
    lol...I would like to see someone spin the last video I posted as anything other than Lieberdousche playing politics
  • SQ_Crazies
    I love how you call him Lieberdouche. You're a nut derek--seriously, you're a prime example of why this country is messed up. Lieberman is doing what he thinks is right--which is what they should all be doing. You and most others are way too caught up in party politics.
  • derek bomar
    did you even watch the clip?
  • SQ_Crazies
    Why did my post get deleted?
  • LJ
    SQ_Crazies wrote: Why did my post get deleted?
    3. You must be civil. Name calling will not be tolerated.
  • SQ_Crazies
    Because I said nut...really? Wow.
  • derek bomar
    SQ_Crazies wrote: Because I said nut...really? Wow.
    did you watch the clip I posted? How am I a nut? Dude, he was for something 3 months ago, and now he is against it....please tell me how I am a nut for pointing that out.
  • SQ_Crazies
    Is that the reason it got deleted LJ?
  • LJ
    SQ_Crazies wrote: Is that the reason it got deleted LJ?
    Yes, you called him a nut.
  • SQ_Crazies
    derek bomar wrote:
    SQ_Crazies wrote: Because I said nut...really? Wow.
    did you watch the clip I posted? How am I a nut? Dude, he was for something 3 months ago, and now he is against it....please tell me how I am a nut for pointing that out.
    The bill isn't even the same bill it was 3 months ago and he has every right to change his opinion once he learns more about it--you don't take a side until you vote.
  • SQ_Crazies
    Alright, then give me a permanent ban from the politics forum if it's going to be that lame.
  • Writerbuckeye
    derek bomar wrote: did you even watch the clip?
    Don't care. He made the right decision NOW. Perhaps someone explained to him how much it would cost and that we simply can't afford to do a buy-in AND make dramatic cuts to programs like Advantage and realistically maintain services and keep costs down.

    Whatever the reason and however he got there -- he's made the right call now.
  • LJ
    SQ_Crazies wrote: Alright, then give me a permanent ban from the politics forum if it's going to be that lame.
    K, if you can't have adult discussions, then you aren't needed here.
  • derek bomar
    SQ_Crazies wrote:
    derek bomar wrote:
    SQ_Crazies wrote: Because I said nut...really? Wow.
    did you watch the clip I posted? How am I a nut? Dude, he was for something 3 months ago, and now he is against it....please tell me how I am a nut for pointing that out.
    The bill isn't even the same bill it was 3 months ago and he has every right to change his opinion once he learns more about it--you don't take a side until you vote.
    no offense, but you dont know what you are talking about.

    he's came out on record saying he's now against the buy-in to medicare for 55-64, when 3 months ago he was for it.
  • derek bomar
    Writerbuckeye wrote:
    derek bomar wrote: did you even watch the clip?
    Don't care. He made the right decision NOW. Perhaps someone explained to him how much it would cost and that we simply can't afford to do a buy-in AND make dramatic cuts to programs like Advantage and realistically maintain services and keep costs down.

    Whatever the reason and however he got there -- he's made the right call now.
    you really think he just finally woke up and saw the light? that's naive
  • jmog
    derek bomar wrote:
    Writerbuckeye wrote: Major props to Joe or anyone else that can effectively derail this piece of garbage.
    yes...let's just keep our heads in the sand and let the cost of health care bankrupt the country...weeeeeeeeee
    If you truly believe universal health care will lower health care costs...then you have paid ZERO attention to any country or state in the US that has ever tried universal health care.
  • derek bomar
    jmog wrote:
    derek bomar wrote:
    Writerbuckeye wrote: Major props to Joe or anyone else that can effectively derail this piece of garbage.
    yes...let's just keep our heads in the sand and let the cost of health care bankrupt the country...weeeeeeeeee
    If you truly believe universal health care will lower health care costs...then you have paid ZERO attention to any country or state in the US that has ever tried universal health care.
    like the countries in europe who as a % of gdp pay less for it than we do?
  • fish82
    derek bomar wrote:
    Writerbuckeye wrote:
    derek bomar wrote: did you even watch the clip?
    Don't care. He made the right decision NOW. Perhaps someone explained to him how much it would cost and that we simply can't afford to do a buy-in AND make dramatic cuts to programs like Advantage and realistically maintain services and keep costs down.

    Whatever the reason and however he got there -- he's made the right call now.
    you really think he just finally woke up and saw the light? that's naive
    Perhaps he's the first one to wake up and realize that the country doesn't even want it. Y'know....that whole "represent the people" thingy.
  • derek bomar
    fish82 wrote:
    derek bomar wrote:
    Writerbuckeye wrote:
    derek bomar wrote: did you even watch the clip?
    Don't care. He made the right decision NOW. Perhaps someone explained to him how much it would cost and that we simply can't afford to do a buy-in AND make dramatic cuts to programs like Advantage and realistically maintain services and keep costs down.

    Whatever the reason and however he got there -- he's made the right call now.
    you really think he just finally woke up and saw the light? that's naive
    Perhaps he's the first one to wake up and realize that the country doesn't even want it. Y'know....that whole "represent the people" thingy.
    yea...or maybe not.
  • believer
    derek bomar wrote:yes...let's just keep our heads in the sand and let the cost of health care bankrupt the country...weeeeeeeeee
    Didn't you really intend for this to read, "Yes...let's just keep our heads in the sand and let government-run health care bankrupt the country"?