Iran: What SHOULD we do?

• O-Trap

  

  Footwedge;972988 wrote:[SUP]Once a broad brush Islam hater...alway a broad brush Islam hater.[/SUP]

  Whilst I agree with you on this overall topic, the above is incredibly ironic. Painting with a broad brush a group notorious for painting with a broad brush.
• majorspark

  

  Footwedge;972963 wrote:No, Obama never wrote...nor did he speak of espousing Wright. Never. When questioned about the matter, he in fact denounced some of the rhetoric of Wright. He never, ever cited Wright either publicly or privately as an advocation for his beliefs.

  Obama named his book after one of Wright's sermons and referred to Wright as his "spiritual advisor". These denounciations, have you checked the timing?
  

  Footwedge;972963 wrote:Compare and contrast to what Cain did. Not only did he espouse the lunatic Parsley, but he did so by writing a couple of editorials for the whole world to see.. When you wsign your name to a public writing, you are showing the whole world what you think..

  Come on. If Cain had sat in Parseley's church for 20yrs and named his book after one of his sermons and called Parsley his "spiritual advisor" you would be railing on Cain.
  

  Footwedge;972963 wrote:The only absolution that I can have give regarding Cain....he could mea culpa his support for this whackbag, and say something to the effect that his op=ed was 5 years ago, and he's re-evaluated his nutball thinking.

  He could do like Obama did and re-evalute his relationship with Wright while running for public office. I'll be you a steak dinner if someone were to ask Cain about the statement he would likely say he was referring to radical Muslims. Not all Muslims. And if Parsely was referring to all Muslims, then well Cain would be outraged. "His comments certainly do not portray accurately the Islamic religion as a whole. Just an element of it." All Cain would have to say.
  
  2008 taught us these pastoral issue can be quickly explained away when running for public office. I am sorry you will have to try something else.
• majorspark

  

  Footwedge;972988 wrote:Here is what Obama had to say after Rev Wright made a few speaches...[INDENT]"I am outraged by the comments that were made and saddened by the spectacle that we saw yesterday... The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I met 20 years ago. His comments were not only divisive and destructive, but I believe that they end up giving comfort to those who prey on hate, and I believe that they do not portray accurately the perspective of the black church. They certainly don't portray accurately my values and beliefs. And if Reverend Wright thinks that that's political posturing, as he put it, then he doesn't know me very well. And based on his remarks yesterday, well, I may not know him as well as I thought either.... What became clear to me is that he was presenting a world view that contradicts who I am and what I stand for, and what I think particularly angered me was his suggestion somehow that my previous denunciation of his remarks were somehow political posturing. Anybody who knows me and anybody who knows what I'm about knows that I am about trying to bridge gaps and I see the commonality in all people. ...[A]fter seeing Reverend Wright's performance, I felt as if there was a complete disregard for what the American people are going through and the need for them to rally together to solve these problems. ...[W]hatever relationship I had with Reverend Wright has changed, as a consequence of this."[/INDENT]

  [INDENT]
  
  April 2008. Context campaign season. This quote is in reference to Wright's recently made comments. Obama was only critical of Wright's coments during the the campaign in 2008, not back in 2001. Nothing less than political posturing. One thing Wright got right.
  
  Were was Obama back in 2001?[/INDENT]
• I Wear Pants

  believer;972163 wrote:It absolutely matters. I don't care if you espouse another's beliefs or expose yourself to another's beliefs you are most definitely effected by those beliefs.
  
  As you are what you eat, you are also a product of your surroundings.

  Okay, so then you condemn Cain just as much for his comments as you do Obama for attending Wrights' church?