State Issue 3 “Ohio Healthcare Freedom Amendment”

• Bigdogg

  Looks like it is currently passing in the polls in spite of every major newspaper in Ohio against it. It is poorly written, with lots of unintended consequences, and many people think it is unconstitutional. Also what many people do not realize is that the Affordable Healthcare Act was passed by Congress and can only be eliminated by Congressional Act, and not any Presidential Executive order. Here is a good analysis of the problems:
  
  http://innovationohio.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/IOReport_BadMedicine_0901.pdf
• sleeper

  

  I really hope this passes.
• Con_Alma

  I will vote yes.
• queencitybuckeye

  Are the people behind this amendment being up front with the notion that the main reason for this issue's existence is symbolic?
• Con_Alma

  I don't think they are, no.
• WebFire

  Con_Alma;956048 wrote:I don't think they are, no.

  Even if they are, too many voters don't pay attention and research the issues. Unfortunately.
• Cleveland Buck

  

  I will vote for it. I would vote for nullification if that were on the ballot.
• FatHobbit

  

  WebFire;956130 wrote:Even if they are, too many voters don't pay attention and research the issues. Unfortunately.

  Dumb question. Does anyone know if there is a reasonably unbiased source to research the issues? I haven't a clue what issue 3 is about. (or any other issues really)
• Con_Alma

  Cleveland Buck;956136 wrote:I will vote for it. I would vote for nullification if that were on the ballot.

  Are there not State lawsuits out there now?
  
  Is this a step in Ohio being next in line?
• majorspark

  

  Cleveland Buck;956136 wrote:I will vote for it. I would vote for nullification if that were on the ballot.

  Me too.
• WebFire

  FatHobbit;956143 wrote:Dumb question. Does anyone know if there is a reasonably unbiased source to research the issues? I haven't a clue what issue 3 is about. (or any other issues really)

  That's part of the problem too.
• Cleveland Buck

  

  FatHobbit;956143 wrote:Dumb question. Does anyone know if there is a reasonably unbiased source to research the issues? I haven't a clue what issue 3 is about. (or any other issues really)

  It essentially repeals the mandate in Obamacare.
• Cleveland Buck

  

  Con_Alma;956145 wrote:Are there not State lawsuits out there now?
  
  Is this a step in Ohio being next in line?

  I hope Ohio gets involved, but I'm not hopeful for the outcome once it gets to the Supreme Court. I doubt a branch of the federal government is going to side with states defying federal law. Hopefully once they lose in court these states still resist.
• Con_Alma

  Cleveland Buck;956157 wrote:I hope Ohio gets involved, but I'm not hopeful for the outcome once it gets to the Supreme Court. I doubt a branch of the federal government is going to side with states defying federal law. Hopefully once they lose in court these states still resist.

  I think the question will be based on whether the Federal law can supersede States rights in this scenario.
• queencitybuckeye

  Cleveland Buck;956155 wrote:It essentially repeals the mandate in Obamacare.

  How does federal law trump state law to make this the case?
• Bigdogg

  Funny this thread just popped up today. Whatever LJ.
  
  I am glad our hard working politicians in Columbus are working overtime on getting jobs and a decent standard of living back to Ohio. I would hate to think they were wasting our time and tax dollars passing symbolic legislation.
• LJ

  

  Bigdogg;956269 wrote:Funny this thread just popped up today. Whatever LJ.
  

  Funny this thread popped up last night when I approved the other threads that were waiting.
  
  Whatever Bigdogg
• dwccrew

  

  Bigdogg;956269 wrote:Funny this thread just popped up today. Whatever LJ.
  
  I am glad our hard working politicians in Columbus are working overtime on getting jobs and a decent standard of living back to Ohio. I would hate to think they were wasting our time and tax dollars passing symbolic legislation.

  I'm ok with our state reps protecting us from BIG government mandating things that shouldn't be mandated and effectively stripping us of our freedom of choice.
• Belly35

  

  I will be voting YES on Issue III
  
  ISSUE I II III ... VOTE YES
• ts1227

  

  FatHobbit;956143 wrote:Dumb question. Does anyone know if there is a reasonably unbiased source to research the issues? I haven't a clue what issue 3 is about. (or any other issues really)

  
  Ballotpedia doesn't do too bad of a job with it in terms of a quick summary. I think they link to the ballot language too.
  
  I read something in the Dispatch where this is one of very few, if not the only time where all 8 "major daily" Ohio newspapers came to a consensus in their endorsements, all saying to vote no.
  
  EDIT: it is the first time ever

  “Never in modern political history have all major daily newspapers in Ohio spoken with one voice on a controversial ballot initiative,”

• QuakerOats

  Bigdogg;956269 wrote:I am glad our hard working politicians in Columbus are working overtime on getting jobs and a decent standard of living back to Ohio. I would hate to think they were wasting our time and tax dollars passing symbolic legislation.

  
  Maybe you should quit believing that government has, or should have, the answers .... it is the problem.
  
  And Issue 3 appears to be a victory for individual liberty and less government intrusion--- good.
• OneBuckeye

  

  Belly35;961699 wrote:I will be voting YES on Issue III
  
  ISSUE I II III ... VOTE YES

  Why yes on issue I? I don't want some old fogie judges hanging around longer than they need to. I would rather it be lowered.
• Devils Advocate

  

  OneBuckeye;963354 wrote:Why yes on issue I? I don't want some old fogie judges hanging around longer than they need to. I would rather it be lowered.

  And what's up with the limiting the states ability to create other courts? .... Something is fishy here.
• thePITman

  

  I voted YES on Issues 2 & 3.
• bigdaddy2003

  

  I too voted YES on issues 2 and 3.