global warming hoax continues to unravel

• coyotes22

  

  QuakerOats;845559 wrote:plural = doofuses

  
  I try to bring facts to this thread, and you wanna pick on spelling? SMH. Typical right wing extremist calling out ones faults. Bring some logic to me, and then I will give you the time of day. Im not even going to respond to you. All you wanna do is destroy my air, food and water supply.
• Heretic

  

  jmog;845531 wrote:I love moronic statements. No one here said that the planet wasnt getting warmer right now. They are laughing about the man made part.
  
  Learn to read.

  
  Well, it is only moronic to the same level as the "what about that global warming?" ones that pop up whenever there's a cold winter day. Neither come from any actual scientific knowledge about the stuff.
• derek bomar

  

  jhay78;845389 wrote:Hot in the summer? You're right, global warming must be true . . . ?

  
  only takes a few degrees and we're all living under the sea with Ariel. Can you tell the difference between 94 and 96?
• Heretic

  

  derek bomar;845578 wrote:only takes a few degrees and we're all living under the sea with Ariel. Can you tell the difference between 94 and 96?

  
  I hope. I'd fin-fuck that bitch!
• derek bomar

  

  Heretic;845582 wrote:I hope. I'd fin-fuck that bitch!

  
  well, obv
• coyotes22

  

  http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517035,00.html
• derek bomar

  

  coyotes22;845597 wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517035,00.html

  
  
• coyotes22

  

  What is that? A picture of the North pole?
• Cleveland Buck

  

  coyotes22;845608 wrote:What is that? A picture of the North pole?

  
  Yes. The ice caps are shrinking in the north and growing in the south. Time to eliminate all carbon emissions. People will have to wear plastic bags over their heads to catch the carbon dioxide they exhale.
• coyotes22

  

  Cleveland Buck;845612 wrote:Yes. The ice caps are shrinking in the north and growing in the south. Time to eliminate all carbon emissions. People will have to wear plastic bags over their heads to catch the carbon dioxide they exhale.

  
  So, I give an article referring to the ice growing in the south, and he shows me ice melting in the north? Makes sense. Could it be the Earth goes thru natural processes of cleansing itself. We warm, we cool, we warm again, we cool again. Natural. Not man made.
• derek bomar

  

  coyotes22;845614 wrote:So, I give an article referring to the ice growing in the south, and he shows me ice melting in the north? Makes sense. Could it be the Earth goes thru natural processes of cleansing itself. We warm, we cool, we warm again, we cool again. Natural. Not man made.

  
  well from your own article, it said half of the South pole was shrinking and being made up for by growth by the other. So effectively not really growin. I am showing you the North. Aggregately, they're shrinking.
  
  Australia Antarctic Division glaciology program head Ian Allison said sea ice losses in west Antarctica over the past 30 years had been more than offset by increases in the Ross Sea region, just one sector of east Antarctica.
  "Sea ice conditions have remained stable in Antarctica generally," Allison said.
• derek bomar

  

  buy ya know...whateverz.
• jmog

  Heretic;845568 wrote:Well, it is only moronic to the same level as the "what about that global warming?" ones that pop up whenever there's a cold winter day. Neither come from any actual scientific knowledge about the stuff.

  
  I agree with you 100%.
• jmog

  derek bomar;845578 wrote:only takes a few degrees and we're all living under the sea with Ariel. Can you tell the difference between 94 and 96?

  
  Oh my goodness you cant be serious.
  
  Last I checked the medieval warming period was hotter than anything we experience now and the whole world wasnt floodedby the ice caps.
  
  Actually look at and study the science instead of repeating Al Gores BS documentary.
• derek bomar

  

  jmog;845676 wrote:Oh my goodness you cant be serious.
  
  Last I checked the medieval warming period was hotter than anything we experience now and the whole world wasnt floodedby the ice caps.
  
  Actually look at and study the science instead of repeating Al Gores BS documentary.

  
  well...what's this mean?
  
• derek bomar

  

  lol...modest mouse's "world at large" just came on...first lyric: "ice age heat-wave can't complain" kinda funny
• coyotes22

  

  derek bomar;845699 wrote:well...what's this mean?

  
  That you drank too much koolaid?
  
  
• derek bomar

  

  coyotes22;845708 wrote:That you drank too much koolaid?
  
  

  
  you didn't get the pun, and you didn't get the point.
• believer

  

  derek bomar;845699 wrote:well...what's this mean?
  

  And sooooooooo NOAA was collecting this data over the past 2000 years using their geostationary satellite hovering over the Egyptian pyramids, is that correct?
  
  Gotta love computer extrapolations based on weather data assimilated by staff meteorologists over the last 20 centuries.
• coyotes22

  

  
• derek bomar

  

  believer;845748 wrote:And sooooooooo NOAA was collecting this data over the past 2000 years using their geostationary satellite hovering over the Egyptian pyramids, is that correct?
  
  Gotta love computer extrapolations based on weather data assimilated by staff meteorologists over the last 20 centuries.

  
  soooooo what you're saying is that Jmog has no way of knowing what the temps were in Medieval times? Because I was responding to that specific point. How would he know without some fancy science doo-hickey thingy? He can't make that claim if I can't post the graph.
• gut

  derek bomar;845826 wrote:soooooo what you're saying is that Jmog has no way of knowing what the temps were in Medieval times? Because I was responding to that specific point. How would he know without some fancy science doo-hickey thingy? He can't make that claim if I can't post the graph.

  
  I forget, exactly, but obviously there are no thermostats found perfectly preserved in tar pits. I think they plug in data from rocks and such to their models to "predict" what temperatures were back then. That's why it's kind of a big deal when those models prove wildly inaccurate at predicting just a few years in the future. And let's not jump too much on the science of those models as it's clearly a nearly impossible task to model. But when you use your model to pound the table and set off alarms, and then that model is proven inconsistent at best, then it makes you look like a fraud.
  
  And of course there's a bit more serious issue with some obvious bias, even beyond the CRU scandal. When you're dealing with data like this, it's pretty easily - intentionally or not - to manipulate assumptions and transformations to get the result you're looking for. And the vast majority of research money here is not coming from people hoping that climate change is a hoax. And for obvious reasons, within that scientific community you either go with the flow or rendered irrelevant, for the most part.
  
  Among all the other problems we have today, there's a growing issue of supposedly objectived and sound scientific research becoming politicized - we are seeing it with the FDA, the EPA, CBO, this climate stuff....Oddly enough, NASA seems to be one of the better sources as they may have some more integrity and also more insulated with their budget (or should say were).
• QuakerOats

  coyotes22;845566 wrote:I try to bring facts to this thread, and you wanna pick on spelling? SMH. Typical right wing extremist calling out ones faults. Bring some logic to me, and then I will give you the time of day. Im not even going to respond to you. All you wanna do is destroy my air, food and water supply.

  
  
  Yes, and I want to take away medicare from old people so they die, and then give that money to Halliburton as tax breaks to outsource more jobs overseas.
  
  
  
• coyotes22

  

  QuakerOats;845941 wrote:Yes, and I want to take away medicare from old people so they die, and then give that money to Halliburton as tax breaks to outsource more jobs overseas.
  
  
  

  
  You mean 'Gummers' dont die if they have Medicare?!?!?
• believer

  

  gut;845862 wrote:And let's not jump too much on the science of those models as it's clearly a nearly impossible task to model. But when you use your model to pound the table and set off alarms, and then that model is proven inconsistent at best, then it makes you look like a fraud.
  
  And of course there's a bit more serious issue with some obvious politically-based (fixed) bias, even beyond the CRU scandal. When you're dealing with data like this, it's pretty easily - intentionally or not - to manipulate assumptions and transformations to get the result you're looking for. And the vast majority of research money here is not coming from people hoping that climate change is a hoax. And for obvious reasons, within that scientific community you either go with the flow or rendered irrelevant, for the most part.

  
  DING! DING! DING! You are our grand prize winner! Johnny, tell our contestant what he has won!
  
  Right you are, Frank. Gut has just won an all-expense paid trip where he and his special someone will fly in Al Gore's private jet and be chauffeured in one of Al's SUV's to the Gore Mansion to spend two exciting weeks beside Al's awesomely large swimming pool. But wait there's more! Gut will also be among Al's guests as the Gore Man rolls out a poolside sneak preview of his upcoming sequel to "An Inconvenient Truth"........."Convenient Lies and the Fools Who Believe the Lies."